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The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2022 9:23 AM
       The Neighbors (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 12, 2022 9:39 AM
       The Neighbors (by RB [TN]) Sep 12, 2022 9:44 AM
       The Neighbors (by plenty [MO]) Sep 12, 2022 9:46 AM
       The Neighbors (by WMH [NC]) Sep 12, 2022 9:57 AM
       The Neighbors (by LisaFL [FL]) Sep 12, 2022 10:00 AM
       The Neighbors (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 12, 2022 10:21 AM
       The Neighbors (by Small potatoes [NY]) Sep 12, 2022 10:32 AM
       The Neighbors (by Vee [OH]) Sep 12, 2022 10:32 AM
       The Neighbors (by S i d [MO]) Sep 12, 2022 10:44 AM
       The Neighbors (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Sep 12, 2022 10:52 AM
       The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 12, 2022 11:15 AM
       The Neighbors (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Sep 12, 2022 11:27 AM
       The Neighbors (by Allym [NJ]) Sep 12, 2022 11:56 AM
       The Neighbors (by R [OH]) Sep 12, 2022 12:24 PM
       The Neighbors (by Salernitana [CA]) Sep 12, 2022 1:05 PM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2022 1:12 PM
       The Neighbors (by plenty [MO]) Sep 12, 2022 1:38 PM
       The Neighbors (by plenty [MO]) Sep 12, 2022 1:38 PM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2022 2:21 PM
       The Neighbors (by Ed [CA]) Sep 12, 2022 2:53 PM
       The Neighbors (by WMH [NC]) Sep 12, 2022 3:37 PM
       The Neighbors (by Ken [NY]) Sep 12, 2022 3:44 PM
       The Neighbors (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Sep 12, 2022 3:56 PM
       The Neighbors (by Jason [VA]) Sep 12, 2022 3:58 PM
       The Neighbors (by MC [PA]) Sep 12, 2022 4:18 PM
       The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 12, 2022 5:16 PM
       The Neighbors (by MikeA [TX]) Sep 12, 2022 5:46 PM
       The Neighbors (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Sep 12, 2022 6:14 PM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2022 6:25 PM
       The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 12, 2022 6:58 PM
       The Neighbors (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 12, 2022 7:24 PM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2022 7:57 PM
       The Neighbors (by Jason [VA]) Sep 12, 2022 8:19 PM
       The Neighbors (by Ken [NY]) Sep 12, 2022 8:34 PM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2022 9:28 PM
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       The Neighbors (by Gail K [GA]) Sep 12, 2022 10:03 PM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 13, 2022 8:06 AM
       The Neighbors (by WMH [NC]) Sep 13, 2022 9:14 AM
       The Neighbors (by Ken [NY]) Sep 13, 2022 10:19 AM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 13, 2022 10:50 AM
       The Neighbors (by Jason [VA]) Sep 13, 2022 12:23 PM
       The Neighbors (by WMH [NC]) Sep 13, 2022 12:35 PM
       The Neighbors (by Joe [CA]) Sep 13, 2022 1:23 PM
       The Neighbors (by Joe [CA]) Sep 13, 2022 1:28 PM
       The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 13, 2022 1:52 PM
       The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Sep 13, 2022 1:53 PM
       The Neighbors (by LTD [AZ]) Sep 13, 2022 4:43 PM
       The Neighbors (by gevans [SC]) Sep 13, 2022 7:19 PM
       The Neighbors (by MAT [PA]) Sep 13, 2022 9:40 PM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 14, 2022 4:59 AM
       The Neighbors (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 14, 2022 9:13 AM
       The Neighbors (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Sep 14, 2022 11:20 AM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 14, 2022 12:27 PM
       The Neighbors (by LTD [AZ]) Sep 14, 2022 1:11 PM
       The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Sep 14, 2022 2:36 PM
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The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 9:23 AM
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5 months ago, I rented a house to single male in his early thirties. 2 weeks ago, he gave notice that he was moving out on Sept. 10th and he did leaving the house remarkable clean. He always paid rent on the 1st and I never had any problem with this tenant.

Yesterday morning I go over to check on things and the neighbor across the street came over and wanted to give me an earful of what my homosexual tenant had been 'doing' during the 5 months that he was there. I told the neighbor I did not have time to listen to him yesterday but I would come back today and listen to what he has to say. That conversation is going to happen in 2 hours.

When a neighbor approaches you and wants to give you an earful of information of what your previous tenant was doing,....how do you deal with this? Do you welcome this or do you ignore it as something that is not any of your business? The few times I have rented to gays, there is always a neighbor that has an opinion about it.

Again, in 2 hours I am going to get an earful. I will report back here after I have more information about what my previous tenant was doing with his 'male guests'. --71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 9:39 AM
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Train the neighbor in fair housing - let them know that you may understand their concern, the law is incredibly clear on the matter.

I would then use this as an opportunity to have them provide me referrals of future residents. Strangely, those who have the most to complain about - are the ones that rarely provide referrals to me. So you allow them to get the last word in - a referral and then you move on after listening five minutes. There is value in keeping the peace, but not listening to what anyone person's opinion of what is moral behavior.

For me, I really don't care who someone is sleeping with. I am not the sleeping police. As long as they screen out alright, take care of the place, pay rent on time and don't PO the neighbors. If they don't meet the neighbors code of conduct - send the neighbor to speak with your state or federal senator......they create the laws and they have two ears also --24.101.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 9:44 AM
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As the rentals turnover,

so do the days of life.

--24.183.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 9:46 AM
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Good material to share at lunch. And if you listen closely some tips on marketing! I am thinking during this listening conversation that it's my house but it's their neighborhood! Love your neighbor. --172.56.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 9:57 AM
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Tenant is gone. Ridiculous to even engage in a conversation about their sex life or any part of their life.

Even if they were still there, ridiculous to talk about your tenant's private life with a random neighbor.

Plenty, it's not "THE neighbor's neighborhood" - any resident is a neighbor. --50.82.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 10:00 AM
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Well I typically welcome neighbor interaction because they are another set of eyes and ears. But if it’s something petty it’s not of any real value. I mean really what could they have been doing to upset the neighbors? So if they have something to tell you it may be worth knowing. If it turns out to be petty you can just dismiss them and remind them the guy isn’t there anymore. --75.89.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 10:21 AM
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Having property in West Hollywood, CA, which consists of a majority of Gay folks, one thing is sure -- the apartment are left in better shape when the tenants move out as opposed to when they moved in. --47.156.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 10:32 AM
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if the place is clean and the police were never called I don't see what went wrong. that the 'neighbor' mentioned gay is a red flag. i have a place where the neighbor comes and talks my ear off and it's hard to break away. but he will tell me useful things about where the police were called and what's going on. sometimes it's about my tenants and I find it helpful. at least he's not a crank. --24.194.xxx.xx




The Neighbors (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 10:32 AM
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I would not entertain this, it is like the clerk at the library or grocery store - when they are taking care of the house and the area, we just hope it wears off along the way to make life a little kinder than some stuff we see on the news. So how did your vegetable garden do this summer? We had a good harvest of yellow beans and beets after we learned ya can't plant them next to each other, enjoy your sweet corn, don't shake up the bee nest when you go out for a walk, enjoy the mild weather before it turns ugly... --76.190.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 10:44 AM
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I do not entertain such conversations from anyone. Tell Mr. Nosy Neighbor your tenant's bedroom activity is none of your business and none of theirs either.

--184.4.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 10:52 AM
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I always think it is beneficial to stay on civil terms with the neighbors. So I would listen, nod my head, make a few sympathetic mmm-mmm noises,and point out that the tenant is gone now so the problem has been solved. --76.178.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 11:15 AM
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I agree with Oregon. Neighbors are tricky. You need a filter to get what's important but exclude the nonsense. I generally avoid engaging heavily with neighbors and I detest gossip and idle talk. --209.122.xx.xxx




The Neighbors (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 11:27 AM
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Just an observation, gay guys overall tend to be neat and tidy. Can't say the same for gay gals. --72.231.xxx.xx




The Neighbors (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 11:56 AM
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How would the neighbor even know? Is he a peeping Tom? Although some people are outrageous in flaunting whatever their lifestyle is. --71.188.xx.xxx




The Neighbors (by R [OH]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 12:24 PM
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I would listen to him just to keep peace and if there is really something of a concern then he may be of assistance in the future. Good luck. --12.47.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 1:05 PM
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You could note to that neighbor that you thank the person for their time but that you have issues to address with the house. Then leave to do your work as you smile.

I'm glad to hear that your tenant was responsible and left your place so clean. Best of luck with your turnover and with dealing with the neighbor. --67.188.xx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 1:12 PM
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Okay, I now have an earful and both ears are filled too. I can not post here what was told to me but I can say this. It appears that my tenant was bi-sexual and may have been a person who was addicted to sex. According to my neighbor, both male and female prostitutes were visiting my tenant on a regular basis. Most of the sex acts happened at night, inside the house, however, some did happen right in the front yard! On 3 separate occasions, the police were called to the house. My neighbor told me he witnessed (across the street using binoculars) 2 men having anal intercourse on the front porch one night while a wild party was going on inside the house.

So, that is what I can post here. This tenant has moved out and he sent me a text today wanting to know when he would get his deposit returned. Would you return his deposit? --71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 1:38 PM
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Complete your walk thru and deduct whatever is necessary to restore the home to move in condition. That is the only thing I'd concern myself with in regards to the deposit. --172.56.xx.xxx




The Neighbors (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 1:38 PM
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Complete your walk thru and deduct whatever is necessary to restore the home to move in condition. That is the only thing I'd concern myself with in regards to the deposit. --172.56.xx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 2:21 PM
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Plenty,

At move-in, he claimed to have no pets. However, the man I hired to mow his lawn took pictures of a dog in the backyard. I will dock him $30.00/month and a registration fee for that unauthorized pet.

This house has Allure planks in every room and that will need to be mopped but other than that, the house looks fine. I have yet to find any damages that would normally occur from wild sex parties going on.

I have another tenant ready to move into this house. I wish all of my vacancies were this simple. --71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by Ed [CA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 2:53 PM
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I would listen to what he has to say and then ask "so what would you do if you were in my shoes" and then when he states he wouldn't rent to men or gay men, I would interrupt and simply say "that's not legal" every time he mentions something that isn't legal to do.

This way, you're not ignoring him, you're just educating them as to what the law is and enforcing that you're not planning to break the law. You might also ask him if he would like to buy the property and then he can run it the way he wants.

Regarding other comments that it's 'his' neighborhood, he can move if he doesn't like the circumstances. I would guess he's angry about gay men in general. --108.201.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 3:37 PM
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Using binoculars to watch people have sex? Not to be rude, but that's truly creepy peeping-tom behavior. --50.82.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 3:44 PM
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The last time i had a neighbor try to tell me who to sell a house to i told him there are fair housing laws,i cant refuse to sell to a minority and actually you probably thought it was a great law and you agreed with it but now you want to tell me who to sell to which is against the law so no that wont be happening,the look i got was amazing but he shut up and walked away.Roy,i doubt what you are being told is the truth but who cares the guy is moved out anyway.I would not have gotten anywhere near that far into a conversation with a neighbor.If he was so against what he said was going on then why was he using binoculars? --74.77.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 3:56 PM
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Would I return the deposit? Of course I would, minus any legitimate repairs. He left the house in good condition and it is none of your business who he was having sex with.

You might suggest to the neighbor that he call you when the police are at the house and not wait and tell you after the tenant moved out. Although, probably it was him calling the police after he watched your tenant with binoculars.

I have my opinion about who is the creepy neighbor and it isn't the tenant who just moved out. --76.178.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 3:58 PM
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Wmh took the words out of my mouth. If the act bothers you, maybe stop watching with binoculars and go inside? --50.202.xxx.xx




The Neighbors (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 4:18 PM
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Why didn't the neighbor call the police for the lewd act(no matter who was involved)? It has nothing to do with the security deposit. Neighbor could have called in regards to the parties as well. --73.230.xxx.xx




The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 5:16 PM
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I know my neighbors in passing only. Generally, I'm way too occupied dealing with my own affairs to watch the neighbors, so unless their house is on fire or something, I miss it. Besides, there are things that I simply don't want to know about people. The person you describe is basically a busy body. He didn't want to call the police because that would ruin his nosiness. He might have to deal with his own life as opposed to sticking his nose in someone else's. --209.122.xx.xxx




The Neighbors (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 5:46 PM
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I don't want to know the neighbors in the C neighborhoods, way too much drama. I use two different statements, its' against the fair housing laws, and I have way less authority than the police so call them, sometimes they get both statements as I walk off.

I simply won't waste my time with them, in 35 years I have yet to have anything of value come out of a discussion with the neighbor of one of my rent houses. It's almost always some nit picky complaint that they have. --209.205.xxx.xx




The Neighbors (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 6:14 PM
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Definitely hear them out, then as others said, train them in fair housing laws. Why not, the problem is already solved by their moving.

Never miss an opportunity to develop and cultivate a snitch. Let the neighbors know you care about the neighborhood and has its best interests at heart.

Today, he's complaining about a protected lifestyle he disagrees with, but tomorrow he may discover your next tenant doing drugs or leaving at midnight. Don't make him think informing you about things is a waste of time. Big mistake. --108.69.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 6:25 PM
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On March 29, 2022, I made a post titled 'Sight Unseen' in which I had been contacted by a Zillow applicant that lived in Florida. He came here from FL on a job transfer. I did not meet him or even show him the house until the day he arrived in which he paid the move-in monies and signed the lease. I thought I had screened this applicant pretty good and his credentials online looked great.

Now, after he had signed the lease and I gave him the keys, it was then he asked me a question that 'floored me'. He said,.."I have not had sex in 3 days and it is beginning to bother me. Do you know where I can get some nookie?". That was my first indication I may have chosen the wrong applicant. So, 5 months later, I now realize I rented to a bi-sexual sex maniac. --71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 6:58 PM
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ROFL!!

Yeah that was a hint that something was up. --216.131.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 7:24 PM
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Mayb you would have been better off not listening to the neighbor as now you are hung up on the subject matter.

You should be friendly with the neighbors but have selective hearing.

If the house is clean, no damages, and ready to rent, then yes, I would give him the deposit back. Isn't that ultimately what you are supposed to go by?

Why didn't you address the animal at the time you found out about it?

Don't you wish you had an ELT in your lease? This guy might have paid it.

I bet he moved because of the neighbor. --73.113.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 7:57 PM
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6x6,

This ex-tenant is typical of most of my tenants in that he will not give me a forwarding address to send a final accounting statement to. I have asked him twice (in text) for a forwarding address and he ignores me on it. However, this does not stop him from continuing to text me about when his $700 deposit will be returned. I think wants me to do a direct deposit into his account which I will not do. This is the reason 90% of my ex-tenants do not get any deposit returned,..there is no place to mail it to.

Also, I did not know about the dog until after he gave me a 2 week notice to move.

--71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 8:19 PM
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“This house has Allure planks in every room and that will need to be mopped…”

Yea you’re definitely gonna want to mop that floor. Hahahahaha

“I have yet to find any damages that would normally occur from wild sex parties going on.”

I feel like this sentence is hiding some crazy story that a few bud lights would bring out.

--172.58.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 8:34 PM
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Roy, you should send security to last known address which is your rental,if it gets returned you have proof for a judge that you tried in every way you could. You told us way more info than you should have --74.77.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 9:28 PM
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Jason,

I only gave the R-rated version of what the neighbor across the street told me this morning. Yes, there is more to this story than what I have posted here.

Another thing, the neighbor here is being truthful and he is not some type of creep or peeping tom. He only did what came natural to most people. I mean really, if you saw two naked men on the front porch across the street humping each other,..you would look too,.. because this is something you don't see everyday!

Ken - My lease is clear here - LL has 45 days to return any unused security deposit and a U.S. Postal Mail forwarding address must be provided by tenant.

--71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by Tonia [RI]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 9:30 PM
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I would respectfully listen to him but also convey what RaynPa stated, the law is clear about discriminatory practices. What if your next tenant is Gay? The neighbor sounds like a homophobic person, and maybe a closeted gay himself (watching with binoculars is just not normal). Honestly, you cannot get into your tenants sex life. On what grounds were the police called? Perhaps your former tenant was being harassed by this neighbor for his sexual orientation. I would be careful with this one. Return his security deposit with deduction as necessary. --71.117.xxx.xx




The Neighbors (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 10:03 PM
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Sounds like the neighbor was jealous he was never invited to these parties. --73.108.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 8:06 AM
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"What if your next tenant is Gay"? I can assure you this one will my last one. I have never understood why some gays have to flaunt their sexuality for others to see and without any moral decency or respect for their own neighbors. I have now added gays to my automatic DQ list. --71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 9:14 AM
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Roy, HOW WILL YOU KNOW if someone is gay? Yes, some people are more "flamboyant" and obvious than some - some lesbians too - but for the most part, being gay or lesbians is not a badge you were on your arm like a yellow star or a MAGA hat.

If you rent to someone who is gay, or bi, or lesbian, how will you know? --50.82.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 10:19 AM
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Roy,now you are announcing that you are violating fair housing laws. I think the neighbor is the problem,not the former tenant,you have no idea the neighbor is telling you the truth at all --74.77.xx.xx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 10:50 AM
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WMH,

Your question is good but I do not have a good answer for it.

How will I screen for gays in the future? I do not have a clue but I do know this,..I do not want to make the same mistake twice. So the knee jerk reaction here is: don't rent to gays which is the same logic as DQ ing an applicant just because they own a Pit Bull. --71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 12:23 PM
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I’d only rent to gay men if I could. I have one married couple and they take great care of the place. Is there a way to advertise real estate on grinder? That should be a thing. --50.202.xxx.xx




The Neighbors (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 12:35 PM
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Still ridiculous, Roy. That's like saying you won't rent to a white man ever because they have been your worst tenants. --50.82.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 1:23 PM
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This entire thread should be removed by Jeffrey. It makes us as a group look unprofessional. Openly flaunting that you will violate fair housing laws on a public forum. Landlords already get a bad name for being "greedy". I mean come on man. --76.105.x.x




The Neighbors (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 1:28 PM
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"Would you return his deposit?" Good grief this thread is a complete train wreck. Roy you've been on this forum a long time, at this point I have to think that this is a big troll post with a fake Roy. No seasoned landlord would ask such an ignorant question. --76.105.x.x




The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 1:52 PM
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I'd have an issue with the wild going ons referenced here even if the folks were straight. You could just as easily rent to wife swappers or folks into orgies and etc. Don't know how you screen for that. --172.58.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 1:53 PM
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I'd have an issue with the wild going ons referenced here even if the folks were straight. You could just as easily rent to wife swappers or folks into orgies and etc. Don't know how you screen for that. --172.58.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by LTD [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 4:43 PM
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IBTL - LOL - OMG! I can't leave you kids alone for even two weeks without wild sex parties exploding!

I'd hazard a guess that the Alabama outback is maybe not the best place for a gay/bi/whatever fellow from Florida to expect acceptence from the locals. Though it sounds like he had plenty of company for a newcomer. LOL

Most of you know my background, but you probably don't realize we live in the heart of Maga country, I mean Paul Gosar (gawd help us) is our Rep in congress. But in ten years here full-time and 30 years part-time I never had anyone say anything untoward or felt discriminated against for my relationship or who we are. Maybe the fact that we don't throw wild late night parties and we try to be good neighbors has something to do with it. Or that we are in a "class A" neighborhood.

Our county is also home to the Warren Jeffs group of FLDS polygamist mormons. I used to train security in their area, and other than a few of the "minor attracted" men who went to jail for "marrying" 13 year olds, I find mormons to be nice, hard working folks. While we aren't exactly invited to church, I've never had a mormon say an ugly word to me. Something I can't say for supposedly "woke" California.

My point is there are good and bad people of all kinds. We don't judge all mormons because of a few old perves who caused great harm to others. We don't say, "I'll never rent to a mormon," because of one dude.

Roy, you know me, I hope this one guy won't sour you on all lgbt folks. My suggestion is just keep on doing what you've always done screening wise. Tell the neighbor you understand his concerns and you try your best to find good tenants who will be good neighbors.

And finally, it doesn't seem like he tore up the place. I don't think you can decuct for eye bleach. So I'd refund his deposit, add another crazy story to your landlording memoirs and move on to the next tennant, and their drama.

At least you have a good spy to keep you informed of any goings on. :D

-

--47.216.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 7:19 PM
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I'm also thinking the neighbor was irritated he wasn't invited to the parties. LOL

I DON'T CARE who my tenants sleep with. In an ideal world, I don't even know.

We have rented to all kinds. Some of the alternate lifestyle people have been some of our best tenants.

And Roy, you know me too... I'm a conservative Christian and believe what the Bible says.

While it does condemn specific actions, it also says to love our neighbors, love our brothers and sisters, and love our enemies. Pretty much everyone falls into one class or another.

My last lady couple left us just a few months ago. At our final meeting I was hot, sweaty, and stinky from working an outdoor job, but they both insisted on hugging me before they left.

You can't do anything about what happened in the past, that guy is already gone. I would point that out to the neighbor and move on. --158.115.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by MAT [PA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 9:40 PM
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If you don’t listen to the neighbors, they’ll eventually stop telling you things, some of which might be important for you to know. Then, use your own judgement as to whether or not what they tell you is relevant to your business. --100.34.x.xx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 4:59 AM
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LTD,

Good to hear from you on this unpleasant topic.

I first need to apologize and say I need to be more careful about what I post here in that some of the comments I have made here have been taken out context here. For example, when I asked the question "Should I return his deposit?",..I was just joking (being sarcastic) when I made that off-the-cuff comment. In addition, when made the comment "I will not rent to gays anymore' that was a knee-jerk reaction to being shell-shocked by what the neighbors had told me about my tenant who was a sex maniac. So, to set the record straight here, I will rent to gays again,..so please don't rat me out to the HUD fair housing authorities,..LOL.

More seriously though, I did spend yesterday apologizing to the neighbor who gave me an earful of about my tenant's personal life that was on full public display. I even asked the next door neighbor who had called the police and they confirmed the story given to me by the across the street neighbor. Neighbor #2 here actually got into a fist-fight with my intoxicated tenant one night and this was what prompted one of the 911 calls. In just 5 months, a total of 3 separate 911 calls were made by the neighbors here. --71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 9:13 AM
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Every body understands that we can lose your head and something said can be taken out of context.

Also everybody understands accountability.

So I'll tell you what - pay the $10,000 legal fees to fight a federal law suite and the $15,000 fair housing fine to the Fair Housing Enforcement team and I am sure they will be happy to call it even.

These are real numbers folks. I hope they are eye opening.

When in doubt - hit the pause button. --24.101.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 11:20 AM
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The issue isn't "gay", Roy. I had a married couple who sounded good at the first encounter, but they had a really odd email address. I googled on the email address and they were running a commercial swingers club out of their home. Not a group of friends, it was spay to play.

I rejected that application really fast. --76.178.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 12:27 PM
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Oregon,

I really do not care about a person's sexual orientation or what they do behind closed doors. However, when a tenant sex life is being practiced on the front porch and it nauseates the neighbors to the point of calling the police, that is when I have a problem with it. --71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by LTD [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 1:11 PM
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^^^^ Absolutely, and I'd be the first one to call the cops if it was in my neighborhood. Hope I didn't come across as sticking up for his debauchery.

Then there's our town. Apparently the new trend for crazy folks is taking their clothes off and walking down the center of the highway! Men and women. Three times this summer. I know it's hot, but really? I don't get out enough I guess so I've missed that eyefull. LOL

Oh and in todays paper, we had a DUI motor vehicle accident IN the car wash! A drunk apparently drove into the "tunnel" and rear ended the car in front, jamming up the whole thing.

Can't make this stuff up. :D

- --47.216.xxx.xxx




The Neighbors (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 2:36 PM
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LTD,

Back in the 70's it was called 'streaking' where naked college students would run naked in public. Maybe it was a Fraternity /Sorority initiation thing? I remember being at a college football game and somebody ran naked down the field and I think the referee tackled him at the goal line,...LOL.

--71.207.xxx.x




The Neighbors (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2022 4:25 PM
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Letting it all hang out ! --24.183.xxx.xxx



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