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Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 10, 2022 6:41 AM
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       Un-skilled labor (by kt [IL]) Sep 10, 2022 8:25 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by Ken [NY]) Sep 10, 2022 8:27 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 10, 2022 8:41 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by MikeA [TX]) Sep 10, 2022 10:45 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by Ken [NY]) Sep 10, 2022 11:50 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by W [CA]) Sep 10, 2022 12:18 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by DJ [VA]) Sep 10, 2022 1:03 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 10, 2022 2:21 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 10, 2022 3:29 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 10, 2022 5:31 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 10, 2022 8:34 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by Vee [OH]) Sep 10, 2022 8:49 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by Jasper [OH]) Sep 10, 2022 8:59 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by Robin [WI]) Sep 10, 2022 10:55 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by dino [CA]) Sep 10, 2022 11:29 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by dino [CA]) Sep 10, 2022 11:29 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 11, 2022 7:23 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 11, 2022 7:40 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by MikeA [TX]) Sep 11, 2022 9:22 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Sep 11, 2022 9:27 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by W [CA]) Sep 11, 2022 10:05 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by tryan [MA]) Sep 11, 2022 10:42 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by tryan [MA]) Sep 11, 2022 10:58 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by Laura [MD]) Sep 11, 2022 11:24 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 11, 2022 12:01 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Sep 11, 2022 1:05 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by Don [PA]) Sep 11, 2022 4:34 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by Chicago LL [IL]) Sep 11, 2022 5:58 PM
       Un-skilled labor (by MikeA [TX]) Sep 11, 2022 8:44 PM
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       Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2022 7:14 AM
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       Un-skilled labor (by S i d [MO]) Sep 12, 2022 9:11 AM
       Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Sep 12, 2022 12:44 PM
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       Un-skilled labor (by Sue [IN]) Sep 22, 2022 3:02 PM
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Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 6:41 AM
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This may be a continuation of another post of mine but I would like to know how YOU go about hiring un-skilled labor in today's climate of a national labor shortage. I want to give an example of a LL situation that requires unskilled labor and how you would handle this.

Lets assume here you have obtained a Writ of Possession after the eviction judge ruled in your favor. Now it is time for you and the sheriff (or constable) to meet at the house for the 'set out'. The constable tells you that you have only 45 minutes to remove all of your tenants furniture, kitchen appliances and other misc. junk out to the street curb. The constable did give you a 24 hour notice as what day and time your set-out would occur. You do have 24 hours here to locate unskilled labor to do this 'set-out' the following day.

In the above situation, where do you find unskilled labor on short notice to do the above job in just 45 minutes? Please don't tell me this a job that you, your spouse and teenage children all do together. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 8:15 AM
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I guess when ya don't have a Wife,

nor Kids or close (hard working) Friends,

ya can't call 'em in a pinch,

to give ya a hand,

like the majority of Folks here, probably do.

I imagine calling on the "Church Family" would not

be one of your options, either. --24.183.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by kt [IL]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 8:25 AM
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Here we can go to the local mission church & hire as much unskilled labor as we wish for a reasonable price/ u may want to check it out locally. --173.233.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 8:27 AM
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I have a guy with 2 adult sons who work for me doing this kind of work and could easily clean that out in 45 minutes,i am teaching the father currently on a rehab how how to do joint compound work,caulk and paint the way i want it done. --74.77.xx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 8:41 AM
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RB,

Moving a tenant's personal possessions to the street curb is one of the most unpleasant jobs a LL has to do and I would never involve family members or friends in a such a job even if they volunteered to do it. In July of 2020, I did my first Covid-19 related eviction and the constable gave me a 24 hour notice as to when he would arrive at the house and he told me that I would have only 45 min. to move everything to the street curb. I had to scramble to find labor on short notice to do this since moving furniture/kitchen appliances is a 2 person job. I hired 2 homeless people that day and they got the job done in 45 minutes. Paid each one $50.00. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 10:45 AM
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I also use day labor workers from the mission but you have to realize there is a risk when you do. In almost all states you are required to carry workers comp insurance. For all practical purposes, these folks are employees. They meet the definition which includes directing their work, establishing the hours, and providing the tools. If they get hurt the ambulance chasers will take them on for a cut of what they get which will be a sizeable settlement that isn't bound by the limits of the state's workers comp rules. Your commercial policy will have a liability exclusion for employees hurt on the job so they will be no help.

So, you can either go through a temp agency that pays the workers comp insurance, an HR place that will take care of the payroll and workers comp requirements for employees, attempt to establish them as an independent contractor (my approach), or just not worry about them getting hurt and risk the peril.

The choice you make will depend on a lot of factors including your own nature in being risk averse or a risk taker, how much you risk loosing (low net worth VS high net worth), how frequently you have this work (increasing the likelihood that a bad event will happen), and one's own knowledge of what risk is being taken (ignorance is bliss).

As I posted in the previous discussion. My strategy is to work these folks as independent contractors. I would have picked up a couple of them from the mission, had them sign the independent contractor form, taken them by a store and given them $10 to get their own box of 50 contractors trash bags, and taken them to the jobsite and let the Sheriff direct what they are to do. Hopefully, if someone gets hurt I have put enough roadblocks in place to legally call them independent contractors so they are required to provide their own insurance. If I'm successful with that then the liability clause of my insurance kicks in to settle the case.

I do have a friend that runs a construction company who at a lawyers recommendation, offers his guys the option of a $.75 an hour wage increase or workers comp. Apparently, this is legal in Texas. He said most of his guys jump at the wage increase so he has very few that take the insurance route. It does have to be a choice to them though. I haven't explored that option yet. --209.205.xxx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 11:50 AM
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Mike,isnt your friend then leaving his customer on the hook for the liability of a lawsuit if he allows his employees to go without comp? --74.77.xx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by W [CA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 12:18 PM
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Saw a case where a sand dredge company hired rehabilitated drug users from a labor contractor that hired manual labor from a drug rehab church for minimum wage work. One of the ex-druggies crossed a safety line, ignored safety signs, then stuck his hand into an operating sand / rock grinder. The labor contractor had WC insurance but the sand dredge owner who thought he was covered by the labor contractor's WC insurance was not. Big payout for the drug addled worker who lost 3 fingers in the grinder from the sand dredge owner. If you are going to hire druggies or "ex" druggies from a church or labor contractor, CYA! They may be covered by a WC policy but not you - get proof you are covered in writing. --174.65.x.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 1:03 PM
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The one time I had to go all the way to Sherrif set-out, about 1 1/2 years ago, I learned that the deputies don't want to stay there at all.

They went in first, alone, to clear the house. Once it was determined no-one was there, they were ready to leave. They only stayed long enough for me to change locks because I asked them to - what if the guy came back with friends after they left?!

If it is not immediately emptied to the curb, we have to allow access for another 24 hrs, if they want to come back for some treasure they forgot.

And I knew for several days when it would be, but decided to schedule the clean-out a few days later.

I have a guy who thinks he and his 2 other guys are "handymen". I have hired them for grunt work a few times, including this time. The entire house was full. I paid them cash. I am not familiar with the practice of "day labor" as some of you describe. I've NEVER seen a group of guys on the edge go the Home depot parking lot looking for work.

Scheduling these guys in advance for 1 day's work is as close as it gets. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 2:21 PM
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DJ,

Day labor is nothing more than people with no regular job looking for someone to hire them for 1 or 2 days and willing to pay them in cash. Some of them are alcoholics, some are dope heads and others are legitimate good hard workers who would like a full time job if they can prove their worthiness. The Lowes in my town will not allow these groups of men congregate in their parking lot and hassling their customers for short term work.

Not long ago, I was looking for a day labor while inside the local Sherwin Williams store. The store manager told me to go look at all of the painter ads on their in-store bulletin board. After calling several ads, I noticed one thing they all had in common,...they all lived at local soup kitchen which was run a local church. Everyone who stayed there was available for hire for min. wage day labor. Only catch was you had to go and pick them up since they had no means of transportation. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 3:29 PM
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Following --73.113.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 5:31 PM
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6x6,

Why is it that not many LLs have answered this post here? My basic question here is very simple,..how do you go about obtaining people to do your dirty grunt work which involves hiring unskilled labor?

Now if you are using your spouse or your children to do your dirty grunt work,...then you should be ashamed of yourself. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 8:34 PM
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Roy, I am the unskilled labor doing it all. I haven't really figured all this hiring stuff out yet, which is why I am following. I did end up hiring a "retired" painter that does some work for a lady across the street from my rehab project. He does not work full weeks and is really not a knowledgeable handyman, but he can paint, slowly. It is actually the first time that I have hired someone to help with the whole project, but it is sporadic. It is taking me forever to get this major rehab done. I just hired him and pay him hourly. I do not know any of the ins and outs of this, which is why I am following. I have a tendency to be introverted and so I really don't have resources. If I had to do what you are describing, I would be in trouble, but would try and do it myself. Maybe we both learn something. --73.113.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 8:49 PM
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I am also that -unskilled- labor even though I have pursued 2 different college degrees. I do have helpful workers who get friends, when my kids were younger they got friends - brothers, even sisters to help do this stuff (after I talked with parents) then my labor pool went to college or began having families and could no longer but always knew someone who wanted to work, I had worker reunion parties at local eatery every 3rd month - that helped spread the work also. --76.190.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Jasper [OH]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 8:59 PM
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Roy, will all due respect, I don't understand why having a spouse or teenage/adult children pitch in to do dirty grunt work is offensive. I suspect the reason there haven't been many replies is that many mom & pop type landlords really do most of these kinds of jobs themselves. My spouse is very supportive of the business and doesn't mind the dirty jobs. Kids have grown up around it, and now do their own grunt work on their own re-hab projects. From the responses here, it seems to be difficult to find these kinds of workers, as well as assuming liability you don't want to take on. On occasion I've hired a local company to do cleanouts, but that's been the extent of my hiring unskilled labor. --75.91.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 10:55 PM
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I have had great success with posting gigs on craigslist, of all places. I post the job to be done, with pictures. I ask them to respond with how much they'll charge, their qualifications, and their phone number. I post it at most two days before I need the job done. There are a surprising number of people with legitimate skills who are willing to do a side hustle on their day off.

My other best source is the teenage sons of church friends. Not to be sexist, but the girls don't want to work in the kind of properties that I can afford to buy! --104.230.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by dino [CA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 11:29 PM
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Briefly and to summarize the main points, in Calif if the value of abandoned property, after proper notice and if it remains abandoned, and its worth is less than $700 then you can trash it, keep it, or whatever.

Otherwise you are supposed to inventory, safely store it and hold public auction.

Since I prefer to not have to do auction if not necessary, I am most definitely and closely involved in documenting with photos were appropriate the contents of the apartment.

This can take a little time but when I can conclude that I have covered my a$$ and can document that the items have little or no value, then I have no problem getting unskilled labor involved.

--104.175.xx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by dino [CA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2022 11:29 PM
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Briefly and to summarize the main points, in Calif if the value of abandoned property, after proper notice and if it remains abandoned, and its worth is less than $700 then you can trash it, keep it, or whatever.

Otherwise you are supposed to inventory, safely store it and hold public auction.

Since I prefer to not have to do auction if not necessary, I am most definitely and closely involved in documenting with photos were appropriate the contents of the apartment.

This can take a little time but when I can conclude that I have covered my a$$ and can document that the items have little or no value, then I have no problem getting unskilled labor involved.

--104.175.xx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 7:23 AM
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Jasper, with all due respect also, if your tenant's toilet has backed up and after the tenant opened the sewer clean-out outside and now there is a sewage toxic waste dump in the backyard,...are you going to ask your spouse and children to clean up this stinking filth? This is an extreme example of what I am talking about here. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 7:40 AM
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Thank-you Robin about 'posting gigs on CL'. I am going to try that now instead of combing the homeless shelters for unskilled labor.

All landlords need a source of unskilled labor who are not spouses or other family members. With family members, train them how to do something that requires a brain and not their shoulder and back muscles. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 9:22 AM
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Ken, In this case no. Once the employee has signed the waiver for wages over workers comp then he has no standing as written into the states workers comp statutes. I guess he could file a lawsuit but it would be thrown out once the signed document is produced. Workers comp in Texas is very employer friendly. --209.205.xxx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 9:27 AM
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As for family members working on rentals, I've never had a toxic sewage spill, but I will point out that the spouse is benefiting greatly from the income and the potential retirement income. The children should be learning the business.

Even if the kids don't ever want to be landlords it is good parenting to teach children the concept of working for what they get. It isn't actually good for kids to allow them to sit in front of the video screen all day and just hand them everything they want just because they ask for it. Let them learn what sort of effort it takes to buy those nice things. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by W [CA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 10:05 AM
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Agree with Oregon Woodsmoke. Kids learn skills from helping turn over apartments . .

If I hadn't worked on many apartments as a kid, I would not know what to tell unskilled workers to do or how to get the work done cheap. --68.8.xxx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 10:42 AM
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Your network depends on how long you've been in this business. Took me a couple decades to develop a few contacts I could rely on in the hood. Weed out the bad apples. Always pay when the job is done IN CASH and they will follow.

I relyed on a couple of these guys when I moved 2.5 hours away from the hood. I called, they answered. Because they KNEW there was $$ imediately coming to them. I was sending CASH priority mail to keep these guys happy. Site unseen ... they said they did it ... I verified with the tenant. One of them had no problem opening the sewer line to snake a clog and deal with the mess. Both these guys had colorful pasts ....living in rooming houses ... I'ld NEVER leave my kids with them or have them to my house. It was just a business relationship that worked for both of us. --206.84.xx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 10:58 AM
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FWIW my 2 boys worked many turnovers .... this was a diliberate attempt to teach them the trade and build a spine. Thier mother would be horrified at what they brought home ...lol. Had to put a stop to that. They would alert their friends to come a pick the stuff up ...lol. --206.84.xx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 11:24 AM
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This has been my #1 issue well before Covid. My solution is to pay through the nose. Your specific example, hire a company that does evictions...cost pre Covid was about $2K.. ??? now who knows.

I now just bite the bullet and pay a company for labor, lots of $$$. Still have the same issues with quality of work and folks showing up, but at least I can now call an adult (sometimes that helps). Fortunately I have owned rentals for a long time so they are profitable enough to support this expense. --108.56.xxx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 12:01 PM
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I do not have children but if I did and they wanted to follow in my footsteps, I would be training them how do negotiate RE business deals. Like how to buy a house for $5K when the owner wants $25K for it. I would not be wasting their time by telling them they need to get a shovel and scoop up all of the foul smelling poop and tampons in the tenant's backyard. I would be teaching them how to find people who will do this type of work.

If you have children, you are free to train them anyway you want to. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 1:05 PM
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I think that spouses and children SHOULD get involved in mundane/routine tasks of the business/chores/household duties. One of the local handyman companies advertises here using the "why spend family time fixing things when you could be XYZ (insert pleasurable activity here)?" Which makes me cringe.

I raised my children to believe that life is NOT a bed of roses and the sooner they learn that the better. Time for everything under the sun including work, even distasteful work. They turned out well as adults, easily navigating life's ups and downs.

On the other hand, DH's three kids were spoilt by the ex and her family, then alienated from us b/c we tried to instill the value of work first, play after (I quote my grandmother on this). Their future is not that secure. --72.231.xxx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 4:34 PM
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Mike, using someone only once to do a job, or even once in a blue moon, would weigh heavily in the direction of them being contract workers rather than employees. --73.194.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Chicago LL [IL]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 5:58 PM
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I always have a few tenants who look to make extra bucks on the side. So I hire them. They just have to be man, no women or children, because they have to lift heavy stuff. It worked well every time. --198.245.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 8:44 PM
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Roy, having grown up on a farm raising cattle I can tell you having your family work on rentals is way less gross than what farm kids go through and I find them to be some of the best young citizens around. Kids need to be grounded in the real world when they are young. I didn't want mine to grow up to be snowflakes so they were required to jump right in with me. After all, more than likely they are going to be wiping poop off their own kids in a very few years. --209.205.xxx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2022 11:23 PM
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Contact the president of the football boosters and then your local scout master. I believe there are people willing to work, but they need to be inspired in a manner that matters to them. These local leaders will help you with what motivates these kids. --24.101.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 7:14 AM
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MikeA,

Wiping poop off your own kids behind is nothing but when you are cleaning up the cess pool created by your tenant's stupidity of opening the sewer cleanout, that is a whole different ballgame. Your farm kid example is good but you are not comparing apples to apples here. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by Jasper [OH]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 7:35 AM
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Roy, this started out as a scenario of removing tenant possessions due to eviction and somehow transitioned into cleaning up a cesspool in the backyard, 2 totally different things. The latter might need a hazardous waste cleanup company vs. an unskilled day laborer person. --75.91.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 9:11 AM
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Well, to start off with the scenario you've set up doesn't apply to me, so I've never had to think about it. We don't have 45 minutes. We have "however long it takes." My handyman handle all of our trash outs. Some have taken him and a helper a couple of hours. No worries. Sheriff's deputy calls a few days in advance to tell us of the date, and says, "Call me if there are any problems." He never even shows up, unless we call him.

But if I WERE in your situation, here's some ideas:

1) Hire your handyman. Those guys usually have a "crew". Holler at him 4-5 days in advance and give him a heads up that the order could drop any day and you need a fast turnaround time. Let him go find and hire the crew. Most of them have a pool of grunt labor they know and will work for $10-$12 cash under the table.

2) Talk to your sheriff/constable and see if he can work the situation like mine does. Explain to him that you know his time is valuable and he can't be expected to baby sit these things unless there is genuine trouble. Then say, "If you can give us a 2 hour window, we'll be sure to get it done, and I'll only contact you if the tenant refuses to budget." That's a win-win for him and you. You get more time, he gets to go eat donuts instead of babysitting you and your movers. He only shows up if there is a legit problem. I can almost guarantee you there is no law anywhere in your state that says "all curb set outs must be done in 45 minutes or less." Rather, it's "just the way they've always done things." You need to put on your salesman hat and sell them on your new process that saves them time, manpower, and hassle. Oh, and have a box of donuts and coffee ready if they do have to show up. A little thanks goes a long way. If they don't have to show up, drop the coffee and donuts by their office after your crew finishes the clean out.

Just two ideas. Give 'em a try!

--184.4.xx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 12:44 PM
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Sid,

Here there is only 1 constable and he will schedule 6 eviction set-outs in one day. 3 in the morning and 3 in the afternoon. Each LL gets only 45 minutes and you better come prepared.

However, if my tenant has already skipped out, then the constable posts a notice on the door and then I can change the locks and clean out the house at my leisure. 2 years ago, the constable had to handcuff my irate female tenant to get her to leave. She was cursing me out the entire time. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2022 1:02 PM
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Roy, I've noticed that sometimes when I give you idea to try, you tell me "Nah, here's how it works in my town."

Have you even TRIED my idea about talking to the constable? Will you try it? What would it hurt to TRY it vs tell me something that is only marginally relevant?

I GET IT. That's how it works TODAY! But find me the LAW that says it MUST work that way.

You can't. There is no such law.

Now go offer your constable and easier way to do this, for him and for you. Put on your SALES hat. Works your $5000 Roy house magic, but on this topic instead of a cheap house. Same process: you have to convince him it's in his best interest to do it your way.

If it fails, you're out one box of donuts.

--184.4.xx.xx




Un-skilled labor (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 3:58 AM
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Sid,

The Constable and I are actually on a first name basis, considering the number of evictions I have filed and he has managed. On my next eviction, I will take your advice and ask the constable for some leeway. --71.207.xxx.x




Un-skilled labor (by Sue [IN]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2022 3:02 PM
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In Indianapolis you have to work with the approved moving company and the Constable on a move out. Best money ever spent and tenants have to contact moving company and pay storage fees before they can reclaim their property. Moving company may say items aren't worth moving. But, you still have time to change locks and set things out later for trash and paperwork from the Constable in case tenant calls police. --104.137.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2022 8:56 PM
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In MY area the moving companies AND the storage units place REFUSE to take renter move out stuff for fear of bedbugs, fleas, and roaches.

I've never had anyone leave anything of actual value.

Once we hauled the stuff to his mother's front porch.

Lockouts: In over 350 evictions I have only had ONE get to the lockout stage. Our court gives them the deadline to "return possession" and 349 moved out on time.

That was a lockout only. I told the guy we would move his stuff to the detached garage and he had a week before we disposed of it.

Men: Never ever NEVER ask your wife to clean a rental. NEVER. Keep he happy counting the rent money and supporting you. The quickest way to turn your wife against the biz is to expose her to the dark pits of LLing.

Workers: for add jobs my handyman hires some friends from church. They work for HIM and HE pays them, not directly from me.

A previous contractor showed up at the project with a different skinny person every day. He was literally driving by and picking up homeless people from homeless camps. THAT did not go well. Very little accomplished each day and lots of stuff to rework.

There are a couple of metal junkers and "trash haulers" so my handyman calls them. Our society NEEDS these scavengers or the city will fill up with junk.

#22 had a great system - lay 5 $20 bills on a pile of trash and post a photo of the job and the money on CL.

Look for a locally owned moving company to hire the labor.

What happens if you do not remove everything that instant?

If you have to let them back in SUPERVISE for the safety of your property! Check this vid - the PM allowed the evictee to return for their stuff...without supervision! youtube.com/watch?v=xbadtmWh7Y4

Pastors and church secretaries know who needs money.

In the end our best helpers have come as friends of existing workers.

BRAD

--73.103.xxx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2022 4:25 PM
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Last lockout I had I gave them extra time to move more stuff. Had to be out by 10am. Think they started at 9:30.

The officer said he would wait a little while. I changed locks and we chatted while they moved more junk. I was happy because it was less I had to deal with. Officer finally said he needed to get back on the job so I told them to bail and closed the door.

Called a trash out company and two hours later the place was empty. They were expensive but wow did they get it done fast.

Ex-tenant sent me a text claiming she left valuable jewelry in the apartment and wanted it back. She was placed on ignore and never even showed for the damages hearing.

She was another one that I later found out had rented furniture. Had a month to get it back to the rental company. I didn't know and it was already in a dumpster somewhere by the time I found out. --107.147.xx.xxx




Un-skilled labor (by Jerry [NY]) Posted on: Sep 27, 2022 8:15 PM
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I find college students to be a decent option if you are in or close to a college town. They are typically young, healthy, strong, smart enough to have gotten accepted, and looking for extra spending money. They often have their own transportation, group of friends, and a flexible schedule. --72.228.xx.xxx



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