accept cats now? (by Matt [NY]) Aug 20, 2022 10:14 AM|
accept cats now? (by Matt [NY]) Aug 20, 2022 10:18 AM
accept cats now? (by Ken [NY]) Aug 20, 2022 10:19 AM
accept cats now? (by small potatoes [NY]) Aug 20, 2022 10:42 AM
accept cats now? (by WMH [NC]) Aug 20, 2022 10:55 AM
accept cats now? (by Allym [NJ]) Aug 20, 2022 11:01 AM
accept cats now? (by RB [TN]) Aug 20, 2022 11:45 AM
accept cats now? (by Matt [MA]) Aug 20, 2022 12:02 PM
accept cats now? (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 20, 2022 4:59 PM
accept cats now? (by plenty [MO]) Aug 20, 2022 5:09 PM
accept cats now? (by Dee Ann [WI]) Aug 20, 2022 6:21 PM
accept cats now? (by DJ [VA]) Aug 21, 2022 12:00 AM
accept cats now? (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 21, 2022 8:43 AM
accept cats now? (by greg [NY]) Aug 21, 2022 11:12 AM
accept cats now? (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 21, 2022 1:03 PM
accept cats now? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Aug 22, 2022 7:53 AM
accept cats now? (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 22, 2022 4:45 PM
accept cats now? (by David L. [OH]) Aug 22, 2022 8:40 PM
accept cats now? (by Nellie [ME]) Aug 23, 2022 9:16 AM
accept cats now? (by Robin [FL]) Aug 23, 2022 9:56 AM
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Aug 25, 2022 10:03 AM
accept cats now? (by Mark [MD]) Aug 25, 2022 11:42 AM
accept cats now? (by phil [FL]) Aug 25, 2022 11:51 AM
accept cats now? (by Sal [PA]) Aug 25, 2022 12:09 PM
accept cats now? (by Linda Layne [FL]) Aug 25, 2022 2:25 PM
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Aug 25, 2022 2:50 PM
accept cats now? (by Jeffrey [VA]) Aug 25, 2022 3:05 PM
accept cats now? (by Naj [FL]) Aug 25, 2022 5:37 PM
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Aug 25, 2022 6:01 PM
accept cats now? (by GingerLou [GA]) Aug 26, 2022 10:33 AM
accept cats now? (by PATTI [OK]) Aug 26, 2022 11:13 AM
accept cats now? (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 26, 2022 5:44 PM
accept cats now? (by Honey [LA]) Aug 26, 2022 10:45 PM
accept cats now? (by marlene [WI]) Aug 27, 2022 10:42 AM
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Aug 27, 2022 2:28 PM
accept cats now? (by John Stone [SC]) Aug 27, 2022 8:01 PM
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Aug 27, 2022 11:26 PM
accept cats now? (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 28, 2022 2:02 PM
accept cats now? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 28, 2022 11:32 PM
accept cats now? (by Mare Webster [LA]) Oct 3, 2022 11:34 AM
accept cats now? (by Matt [NY]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 10:14 AM
So, I have a two bedroom coming up. Lots of interest but it seems like everyone that has good credit and otherwise looks good, has a cat.
I want all these years with a no pet policy, but I think things are changing. I also know that after the fact people seeking a cat. Then there is that thing about just asking a doctor or social worker about they need a cat, and I can't stop it anyway.
So I'm wondering have any of you changed your policy? If so have you done other things to try to protect your property? Like requiring a pet deposit. If so how much do you think is reasonable?
I'm thinking about a pet deposit and the fact that the cat has to be an indoor cat....Any other ideas? --66.30.xx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Matt [NY]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 10:18 AM
Oops, it should have said "I WENT all these years......."
and "the fact of people SNEAKING in a cat,..." --66.30.xx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 10:19 AM
I just charge as much as i can and they can have a petas long as it is not a dangeroud breed dog,that way i dont hear about it being an ESA.I dont care if they let the cat out,why would you care about that?I dont charge a deposit,also helps to not have to hear about it being an ESA. If you do an in home inspection you will know how your place will look in a month by how there current place looks --74.77.xx.xx
accept cats now? (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 10:42 AM
Matt you are correct many folks now have furry creatures. in NY you cannot charge a pet deposit. I now accept pets on a case by case basis (for a $50 increase in rent) that includes a visit to the pets current home. I don't refer to it as pet rent incase the animal goes away and the tenant wants the monthly amount adjusted. My prescreening form asks if they have pets or animals. If that box is checked and I don't see another obvious DQ, I reply w/ "this is a no pet rental, best of luck in your apt search". If they reply it's an ESA then I know to screen well. One thing that will trip these folks up is if you challenge them (in person when showing) and they become argumentative. That's a DQ for not being cooperative (if that is part of your criteria). You used to be able to say the cat should be declawed, but that is becoming 'inhumane'. Not sure if spayed/ neutered is headed in that direction but I require that for pets. If there is more than one cat make sure each has it's own litter box. Lots of info here on ESAs so do a thorough search on how to get through it. --24.194.xxx.xx
accept cats now? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 10:55 AM
I allow 1 animal "included" in our high rent, with a detailed pet lease included. Security Deposit is highest allowable: 2x the rent.
For cats, must be indoor cat as we have had too many flea infestations from outdoor cats. Must have a clean litter box - scooped every day. If found to be dirty, must go. Etc.
I don't get much push back on ESA or Service animals as a result. If I get someone claiming one on my pre-screen questions, I just find another way to disqualify. --50.82.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 11:01 AM
I have always taken cats and have 20 year tenants. indoor only no fleas --71.188.xx.xxx
accept cats now? (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 11:45 AM
Don't cave in.
Pets / Animals are a pain in rental properties.
65 % of all complaints here are connected to Animals,
or their Owners, somehow.
Stick to your NO Animal / No Pet Policy. --24.183.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Matt [MA]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 12:02 PM
Ken if they put out the cat esp for the night it proves to me that the tenant is lazy, cause it's the easiest thing to do.
Also they can bring fleas. ticks and several other nasty diseases back to the property.
They also kill about 2.4 billion birds.
I've seen neighbors put out their cats in freezing cold and in bad weather, yes many cats freeze to death according to a vet friend of mine.
Again, I consider someone that has an outdoor cat to be generally irresponsible in a number of ways. Probably a bad tenant.
I didn't know about NY and not allowing a pet fee,..good to know.
accept cats now? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 4:59 PM
I ask the applicant several cat questions that only a cat lover would know. If they pass then I'll rent to them, otherwise not! --47.156.xx.xx
accept cats now? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 5:09 PM
It's an interesting market. The last house I just rented, ad was no pets, and I really don't want any. After a month of no qualify applications, I changed to ad to include pets with very high pet rent and fees and requirements. Finally the phone rang with people with no pets but qualify. Go figure! Rented to good people, moving in today, with no pets --172.56.xx.xx
accept cats now? (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2022 6:21 PM
I don't accept cats (or animals) due to my allergies and most in my buildings that have allergies. Same as other things that trigger allergies. My workplace at a large company for 8 years wouldn't protect me. With the money I received from suing my company for not accommodating my disability (deemed by the State of WI) I started my own business where I have control over my health.
And that's where I stand on the subject. --75.11.xx.xx
accept cats now? (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2022 12:00 AM
Instead of charging extra pet deposit & pet rent, I've started just charging high rent & high deposit and call it an animal inclusive property.
On my Animal Application, they agree to:
"An approved animal will be a dog, cat, or fish tank with a maximum capacity of 5 gallons - no matter how many fish it contains.
There is a maximum of 2 animals allowed.
Some dog breeds are expressly forbidden by Insurance.
Tenant acknowledges and confirms that (each) animal:
ē is at least one year old, is spayed/neutered, and has no history of aggressive behavior.
ē is current with all required immunizations and city registration.
ē is properly trained:
>Cats must use a litter box, and must not scratch on the wood trim, walls or any part of the house.
>Dogs must not jump up on or "forcibly sniff" strangers, must walk on a loose leash, and must obey basic commands of sit, down, and come.
ē If not yet a Tenant, the dog applicant will accompany the human applicant when viewing the premises for rent.
ē will be observed in their current home.
ē will be properly cared for and well-behaved at all times while on the premises.
If animal is a cat:
Tenant must maintain a minimum of one litter box per cat, cleaned a minimum of once per day, and waste must be immediately removed to the outside trash. Care must be taken (such as placing a waterproof mat underneath) to avoid any excrement or dirty litter from contacting walls or floors.
If animal is a dog:
Tenant will never allow the dog to urinate or defecate in or on the house. Tenant must immediately pick up all fecal waste from the yard as soon as it occurs. Ideally, Tenant will train the dog to use a specific, small area of the yard, to make clean-up easier.
If animal is a fish tank:
Tenant will maintain a proper filtering and algae-elimination system, and whatever other steps are necessary so that the tank is always pleasant to view and the fish are healthy.
Tenant understands and will abide by all the requirements listed above, and agrees that he will be fully responsible for the behavior of any animal, including damage or injury to any property, person, or other animal - and will carry liability coverage for the same in his Renter's Insurance policy.
No animal food or water will be left outside, as it will draw rodents & other pests. Animals must be under the control of Tenant at all times and leashed when outside, unless contained in a secured, fenced area.
An animal will never be left chained or tethered outside. This is a violation of this agreement and city law, and can result in animal control immediately removing the animal from the premises.
If the premises is NOT an "Animal Inclusive Rental", the following Animal Fees apply:
If an animal is approved as an occupant, an additional security deposit of $250.00 (total, for up to 2 animals), will be due to Landlord before the animal is permitted on the premises. Also, additional rent of $40.00 per animal per month will be paid at the same time, in the same manner, and with the same terms as all other rent.
Only the animal described above and approved by Landlord will be an authorized occupant. If an animal dies, or is removed from the premises for any reason, it may not automatically be replaced with another. If Tenant wishes to replace or add (up to the max of 2) an animal after taking possession of the rental property, a new animal application must be submitted to and approved by Landlord before that animal is allowed onto the premises.
This animal application must be accompanied by a clear, full-body, close-up photo of each animal." --68.229.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2022 8:43 AM
My last cat did $5800 damage including lost rent while un-cating the property. Cats are worse than dogs. --99.23.xxx.x
accept cats now? (by greg [NY]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2022 11:12 AM
Will tenant's insurance cover any damage by cats? --66.30.xx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2022 1:03 PM
No coverage when a tenants animal causes property damage only when an injury is caused to a person if they have that type of coverage. --99.23.xxx.x
accept cats now? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2022 7:53 AM
For the longest time I simple didn't accept pets. Then I decided to do it on a trial basis after learning that about 2/3 renters had pets locally.
After I started to accept pets I soon saw the money that could be made by them. Retention increased, pet move in fees and pet rents are now charged. Could I get greedier on them - yes. But retention is a true saving that I value and i force the residents to carry renters insurance .
accept cats now? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2022 4:45 PM
we have had cats in our home for 35 years. I have never had $5k cat damage. my target mkt is renters with pets. I think I did have to replace $5 blinds two times. my rents are higher bc none of the complexes here allow pets. --97.94.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by David L. [OH]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2022 8:40 PM
I found people sneak in the cat anyway. I allow one cat; must stay inside and I charge a non-refundable deposit. They also have to complete a pet addendum to the lease. I have found the addendum makes them think twice about how bad they want a cat. --74.130.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2022 9:16 AM
We have a tenant who came from a no pets complex. I asked how they had a cat at it. They said they got paperwork for an ESA. But when they applied for us they willingly paid the extra rent and ďpet registration feeĒ. They were happy to be above board with it. Later they got a second cat. Double the cat rent and registration fee. --76.179.xxx.xx
accept cats now? (by Robin [FL]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2022 9:56 AM
I will be renting out my condo which is in a "no pet" community per the Association by-laws. Unfortunately, a lot of people who live there have "ESA's."
So, since I can't charge pet fees, deposits, or rents in a so-called No Pet community, I will charge a large security deposit (2x the rent). --50.30.xx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 10:03 AM
First rental they had a inside cat. That cat sprayed all 18 windows, peed on carpet and itís litter box locked up in master bedroom. Carpet was 2 years old no stains. We had to rip up the carpet and clean all the windows. They didnít understand why they donít get their SD and pet deposit was non refundable. Smell was so much worst.
Next tenant had aquarium. Son got mad and shot it out with a BB gun water went everywhere. NO MORE ANIMALS! FOREVER. And it hasnít been a problem renting any of my properties for over 20 years. --68.97.xxx.xx
accept cats now? (by Mark [MD]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 11:42 AM
First off a ESA (Emotional Support Animal) is NOT A SERVICE ANIMAL!!
Why is everyone acting like ESA's are allowed as a service animal? This is caused by a very poorly trained LL in the laws that govern your rental. Step up! No wonder so many are pulling the wool over your eyes. If you understood the laws you may make it easier on the rest of us. --73.117.xxx.xx
accept cats now? (by phil [FL]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 11:51 AM
While back I had a tenant from hell with a male cat.
She allowed cat to spray his scent all over carpets, floors and sheet rock walls.
I tried everything to get the smell out. Couple of days it was fine but third day it came back. I had hired Carpet cleaning company. But they could not get it out. I took off the carpet and padding, it was still there. Finally, I realized it was the walk-in closet walls. I removed two feet of sheetrock, one day I used Vinegar, next day Oder ban.
It cost me over $ 2,500.00, Off course the tenant from hell disappeared.
From then on, I do not allow MALE CAT who is not neutered. I do require vets' certificate to verifie. --108.80.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Sal [PA]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 12:09 PM
Rented to a young couple who both worked. They had 4 cats that ruined the rugs and even the cement landing near the front door. Total damage $3,300. They never paid and moved on. No pet policy should be enforced unless you're willing to pay for cleaning and floor replacement. --71.162.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Linda Layne [FL]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 2:25 PM
Absolutely no Iíve had more problems with cats than with dogs. --173.171.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 2:50 PM
Mark, we many callers stating that they have els and service animals. We tell them No animals! Period. All of advertisements say No Animals. Guess what they still call thinking we are going to change our minds.No!
accept cats now? (by Jeffrey [VA]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 3:05 PM
Patti, you do know that you simply can't say "No animals Period" as your reason for denial if there is a service animal involved. You can be sued and the judgment could be VERY costly. Even with an emotional support animal that can be problematic. --70.161.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Naj [FL]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 5:37 PM
Well in order to get ESA one must have proper paperwork from a professional and also properly trained to do the job.
Coming to SA Service dogs it is required they properly trained to do the job with proper shots. I am not sure if we can charge any fee or extra rent but ESA case I do charge Pet fees and in some cases rental increase. Check the local laws. --107.195.xx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2022 6:01 PM
So are you telling us that we ďHAVE TO ď take these callers and put them into our properties. Certain breeds of dogs according to our insurance and farm animals are not zoned for residential property.
accept cats now? (by GingerLou [GA]) Posted on: Aug 26, 2022 10:33 AM
This is an interesting convo. In Georgia, we are forced not to discriminate against applicants with service animals and emotional support animals, and we are forbidden to charge pet deposits for these or increased rent amounts/security deposits. From what I'm reading online this morning, I also may not ask for documentation for a service animal (but I already figured out that such documentation probably is easily purchased online without any training to the animal). This is frustrating for the LL. And also potentially very expensive. I recently filled a house vacancy with two outside dogs (non-aggressive breeds) where the tenant provided an electric collar restriction for them. I charged a less deposit than I do for inside pets. I had at least two other applicants for this same vacant property who had ESAs, and I've run into the ESA issue before. I go against my better knowing, ask no questions and accept the ESA if that applicant is chosen. Many times, the applicant doesn't mention the ESA until they are chosen for the property. I abide by the law, of course, even though this law is clearly unfair to LLs / rental property owners. I have significantly increased rent on vacancies, however, as the rental market here is booming. I have also increased the Security Deposit significantly. The key, for me, is to find good, long-term tenants ... because my biggest expense is turnover of tenants. I have always accepted pets (as long as the breed of dog doesn't violate my insurance requirements) with a non-refundable pet deposit. I realize how attached people are to their pets, and I also believe that it can be beneficial/healthy for people to have pets. I want my tenants to be happy (and stay many years). I do limit pets to TWO total, and I charge $450 non-refundable for the first pet and $350 non-refundable for the second one. Animals are generally not the ones doing damage to the property; it's tenants acting like animals!(Laughing ... but serious!) --99.110.xxx.xx
accept cats now? (by PATTI [OK]) Posted on: Aug 26, 2022 11:13 AM
If they canít furnish documentation for their esa or service animals and insurance for that animal. 99.98% cannot furnish docs for the animals. When callers and it isnít a sea or service animal we require vaccination records from them to prove that they are being properly cared for. They canít come up with them. So therefore we tell that they do not apply and they have to come up with those docs before they apply so they are arenít out app fees too. We do not discriminate against anyone. If they meet the qualifications we proceed with the application. --68.97.xxx.xx
accept cats now? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 26, 2022 5:44 PM
we have cats at home. never a problem for us. I suppose if they are in a new place they will get nervous & pee. my target market is renters with pets. they have a hard time finding a place to live. I donít charge pet fees or deposits. my rents are at least $100 more per month than comps with no pets policy. I do not charge higher deposit than I would with someone with no pets. --97.94.xxx.xxx
accept cats now? (by Honey [LA]) Posted on: Aug 26, 2022 10:45 PM
I used to charge 300 for cats. Soon I found that cats caused more damage than dogs so I began charged $500, same as dogs.
This is damage deposit, and I love returning it when the pet owner moves out. If we kept their deposit, there would be no incentive to leave my property the way they found it.
I deduct $100 for sanitation cleaning after the tenant vacates because I say in my lease that the next occupant may be allergic to animals.
We usually don't have problems and tenants love their pets.
accept cats now? (by marlene [WI]) Posted on: Aug 27, 2022 10:42 AM
I have accepted pets when I had hard time finding renters. However I was once told that the cat dander stays in the property for six months no matter how diligent you are about cleaning. I have two rentals across the street from my house. One set of renters are fantastic, the others not so much. But they have both stayed for 5 years. I have never raised the rent, but I do charge $30 for pets. The turnover of renters and the time spent finding good renters is worth the little bit of money I'd be losing by charging more.
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Aug 27, 2022 2:28 PM
The dander and the hair from dogs and cats will be there forever. Especially when you have carpet in the property. Also if you donít clean the air ducts the dander and hair will just blow out of them. I know. Just had the air ducts clean be renter was find it on her furniture and that costs us $450.00. Another reason not to have animals. --68.97.xxx.xx
accept cats now? (by John Stone [SC]) Posted on: Aug 27, 2022 8:01 PM
Cats? Hell no. I'd let a pet pig stay in a house before cat!
accept cats now? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Aug 27, 2022 11:26 PM
Had caller that had a pig for service animal. Ask if she had documentation that it was she said no but I can get some, but probably all fake, we told her that the property was zoned residential not agricultural. She told us that there were no agricultural zones in the city. Yes there is because my personal property where we lived is zoned that way, our little farm in the middle of the city. Next! --68.97.xxx.xx
accept cats now? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 28, 2022 2:02 PM
we had a (true) mini pig. his name was Hoover. he was way cleaner than our dogs & cats. we let him sleep in the bed with us. a snoozer. --107.120.xx.xx
accept cats now? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 28, 2022 11:32 PM
I make a TON of profit by renting to animals.
$150 Non-Refundable Animal Registration Fee per animal
$35 per month per animal.
That's an extra $570 the first year for ONE animal.
$1140 the first year for 2 animals - and MANY have 2 animals (Dog and cat is very typical)
And a residual $420 or $840 each year after that.
As a property manager our job is to find methods and policies to protect our property AND to increase profits.
We do my 2 Minute In Home Visit prior to final approval so we KNOW what the animals - and the PEOPLE - are like.
Currently have 64 animals in our rentals with ZERO problems or damage, including cats and pit bull "Mixes".
accept cats now? (by Mare Webster [LA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2022 11:34 AM
Can a Louisiana LL ask for proof of a service or support animal documentation or vaccination records? Anything else that might be pertinent to protect the LL? --12.11.xx.xx