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EV Charging / Add-on (by James [GA]) Jul 31, 2022 7:42 AM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 31, 2022 10:48 AM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by MC [PA]) Jul 31, 2022 10:50 AM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Don [MO]) Jul 31, 2022 11:00 AM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Scott [IN]) Jul 31, 2022 11:19 AM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 31, 2022 11:53 AM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Vee [OH]) Jul 31, 2022 12:43 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Allym [NJ]) Jul 31, 2022 1:38 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Jason [VA]) Jul 31, 2022 2:22 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by James [GA]) Jul 31, 2022 3:16 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Allym [NJ]) Jul 31, 2022 4:43 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by plenty [MO]) Jul 31, 2022 4:53 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 31, 2022 11:39 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 1, 2022 2:41 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 1, 2022 2:44 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Sir Walter [NC]) Aug 1, 2022 3:03 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Aug 1, 2022 4:56 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Aug 1, 2022 4:57 PM
       EV Charging / Add-on (by Sir Walter [NC]) Aug 1, 2022 5:49 PM

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EV Charging / Add-on (by James [GA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 7:42 AM
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Curious for those that do ala-cart for add-ons and what not if you've thought about an electric charger. This would mostly be directed at MFH. If you have MFH and 10 to 100 units in the immediate area, what is your take?

There are chargers out now that can bill to a credit card. Set your pricing above your Kwh price and let it eat? --62.216.xxx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 10:48 AM
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If you have a multi in an area of multis and you put in a pay charger, I think you can expect to have non-residents coming into your parking lot and sitting there for hours, plugged into your charger. They will plug the car in and leave it and return later.

Your tenants will do that too, but their neighbors know who they are and will go and get them o move their car. --76.178.xxx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 10:50 AM
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I believe this will pass as well. --73.230.xxx.xx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Don [MO]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 11:00 AM
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I am changing out all the main breaker panels in all my properties. Adding 30 amp EV outlet in garage. Mains are 50+ years old, so time to update. Maybe years before I have tenants use. Will charge $50 ?? (TBD), for the the use. Someday. Since I am doing the main, real simple to add and cheap to do now. --108.66.xx.xx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 11:19 AM
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It's a great idea. Have a sign explaining your aggressive tow policy at each charging station. --107.141.xx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 11:53 AM
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What happens when the utility company can no longer provide extra power with the higher demand for EV Charging Stations? They will up your costs and charge the landlord an extra fee for providing more power during high demand times 9am to 9pm.

You will need to have an iron clad contract/lease that the users of the charging stations will pay your entire cost/fee's. --47.156.xx.xx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 12:43 PM
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Near one of my campus places there is a charging spot in a apartment lot, always yelling about -your in my spot- and I have no idea who they are but I think this would only work at a single fam house, I have one client with a chevy volt - uses a 50 amp outlet - same as a electric range usage. --76.190.xxx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 1:38 PM
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Dont bother. People don't want cars that can catch fire while charging, driving and just sitting. Making them causes more pollution. No place to recycle battery. Push back. I read that it costs .44 cents per minute or $150 for a full charge which goes 200 plus miles. Not efficient. --71.188.xx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 2:22 PM
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That’s interesting ally. Ford just recalled 100,000 internal combustion vehicles because they had a tendency to catch fire. And I’m afraid what “you’ve heard” regarding charging is incorrect. I’ve driven 2100 miles in the past 31 days in my Tesla and that has cost me a whopping $61 in charging costs. Also the batteries are completely recyclable….but please do go on repeating everything the oil companies tell you to. --73.177.xxx.xx




EV Charging / Add-on (by James [GA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 3:16 PM
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All -

A few items to clarify -

It will only charge when someone would swipe a credit card or similar.

Assume it wouldn't be intruding on tenant parking, like a guest space or the like. No one here wants that hassle.

Robert - If the Power company wants more - then up the price per kwh. No skin off the tenants back.

Absolutely - park here and don't charge - expect to be towed.

They even have chargers that will continue to bill the customer after the car is gone charging after a grace period. Motivation.

Everyone here talks about renting washers and the like, but this is something that could be installed and make money round the clock from others with no toilet to manage.

--62.216.xxx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 4:43 PM
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Tesla lithium battery fire is so intense that fire trucks, many of them, can't put it out. I have several links but you can find them. Just google tesla and fire. It's the 21st. Century Edsel.

--71.188.xx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 4:53 PM
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I offered this to a resident and they declined. What I found out is my panel box was equipped to handle it, otherwise that would have be an additional expense. The distance from the electric box to parking was not that far, so it wasn't extra cost but not all properties are this short of a distance. And the cost was between $800 to $900 for the equipment and install. So in ideal conditions that was the cost, three years ago. --172.56.xx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2022 11:39 PM
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From what I understand, larger apartment buildings are now required (for new construction) to provide charging stations.

One building I own a tenant wanted me to sign a contract with a charger installer company. They wanted to hook up the large charger, that can only be attached to my master panel -- making me pay for the cost. I refused.

I gave my tenant permission to have an outside outlet installed for a small or medium charger. The kind that is $200 or $800. Not the larger one costing thousands and taking days to install. --47.156.xx.xx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2022 2:41 PM
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I didn't read through the responses because I personally nor my properties are not ever going to have chargers. Not the world I live or work in.

However, doesn't it take a permit and with that a fee to install a charger? A rather expensive permit like several thousand dollars? --98.237.xxx.xx




EV Charging / Add-on (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2022 2:44 PM
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James,

This is a trend that will affect all of us someday. We'll have to come up with solutions.

Maybe Elon will come up with a vending machine we can attach much like a washing machine has a vending gadget.

My first thought is that every apartment should be Metered separately even without electric cars.

Thankfully my newer homes have the breaker box in the garage already so wiring would be convenient.

BRAD

--73.103.xxx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2022 3:03 PM
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My understanding is that you would simply need to install a 220, 240, or 250 V outlet in a SFH. Basically, a dryer outlet installed in a garage or on an exterior wall. If it is a simple installation, costs can be estimated at about $10 for the outlet and about $300 for the install.

If you are doing a whole house electrical upgrade, it makes sense to install an outlet for an EV charger. It would save on the costs of doing so later.

In a SFH or small multifamily, expect that the tenant will purchase their own charger. The cord distance from the car to the outlet should be no more than 20 feet, with some allowance for slack in the cord. Placement of the outlet may factor in the cost of installation.

IIRC, you can also attach the outlet to an outside pole.

The information above comes from my research in planning for a future upgrade. It would be advisable to consult with an electric car dealer before installing anything.

It is probable that having a charging outlet will ultimately become important, the same way a home being wired for a landline or cable television became important at one time. --24.233.xxx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2022 4:56 PM
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I see a format war well before the nation goes one way or another. Will what you have be the next BetaMax machine or will it be a money maker?

There isn't much interstructure to support Electric cars outside of larger more populated areas. There are some gains, but will electric cars push gas out of the way? That is a lot of weight to move as big oil will get in the way --24.101.xxx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2022 4:57 PM
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For those of you who have charging stations NOW - how much more rent do you get out from them? --24.101.xxx.xxx




EV Charging / Add-on (by Sir Walter [NC]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2022 5:49 PM
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A charging outlet is not a charging station. It is a simple standard electric outlet, and is already provided inside homes for stoves and dryers.

I would not provide a charging station for a SFH, both due to the expense of charging stations and the format wars that Ray mentioned.

I suspect that most electric car owners own their own portable chargers. --24.233.xxx.xxx



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