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Bug Rebellion (by Duplexer [IL]) Jun 30, 2022 10:21 PM
       Bug Rebellion (by MC [PA]) Jun 30, 2022 10:50 PM
       Bug Rebellion (by Duplexer [IL]) Jun 30, 2022 11:29 PM
       Bug Rebellion (by MC [PA]) Jul 1, 2022 7:33 AM
       Bug Rebellion (by Jason [VA]) Jul 1, 2022 7:35 AM
       Bug Rebellion (by plenty [MO]) Jul 1, 2022 8:17 AM
       Bug Rebellion (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jul 1, 2022 8:27 AM
       Bug Rebellion (by Dee Ann [WI]) Jul 1, 2022 1:27 PM
       Bug Rebellion (by Allym [NJ]) Jul 1, 2022 1:50 PM
       Bug Rebellion (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jul 1, 2022 5:32 PM
       Bug Rebellion (by MikeA [TX]) Jul 1, 2022 5:40 PM
       Bug Rebellion (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 2, 2022 11:11 AM
       Bug Rebellion (by Vee [OH]) Jul 3, 2022 9:32 AM
       Bug Rebellion (by Hoosier [IN]) Jul 3, 2022 6:51 PM

Bug Rebellion (by Duplexer [IL]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 10:21 PM

Part of the ongoing saga and "Misery of 5" series, the small landlord with only 5 tenants who never gets a moment without drama.

Well, what's happened now. Its a Triplex, there pack rats renting upstairs who are messy and full of clutter, and we looked the other way during the Pandemic because they always pay rent on time.

Downstairs is a single older woman, and next to her renting is a well, "slow" single older man (as described by his sister, who handles his rent payments).

He's great--- has been there years and we've never raised his rent because its worth it just to have someone without pain, lol.

They all lived together more or less happily for a year. Until downstairs woman suddenly has some kind of mid life breakdown. She insists there's roaches everywhere. Roaches!!!

I've seen only one.

I went back today, and saw none.

I've looked through his apartment. A couple waterbugs, dead. But no 'german' plague roaches to be seen. Just, no roaches.

Upstairs, they refuse to let me in.

But theyre breeding, she says. There's babies, she says. Upstairs, an army of roaches are coming. I can't live here.

I deal with her texting constantly a week, every time I go over there she's bawling about the roaches. We had an arrangement where we give them spray and let them spray as much as they like, which they took and did.

If they want us to spray, we will.

But if tenants want a professional extermination, they must pay, said the lease. They signed and agreed.

But now the woman downstairs DEMANDS a professional extermination. Then ALL the tenants refused to pay for it, saying they had no money.

Whats more I'm leaving, bawled the woman. "None of us can afford an exterminator."

Fine, we said. We are going to pay for an extermination. However, since we haven't raised rents in years, we are raising rents $20 for each tenant to cover exterminations from now on, starting next month. They are on monthly leases, so this is legal.

I make the appointment. Its $300 for all 3 units, set for July 5th. I post notices on the doors. All good, right?

Thank you, says the bawling woman downstairs. I'll be moved out by July 1st. I can't live here anymore.

Please leave the keys, a forwarding address, and let me know when you are vacated, I say.

So shes leaving anyway. And thank god for that. A setback, but survivable.

But wait- there's more.

Now after all the clamoring for an extermination NOW that didn't happen soon enough, the people upstairs are now raging because July 5th is TOO SOON.

"How could you do this to us!!!" rants the woman upstairs. "John fell and hurt hip. You are ruining our July 4th vacation. This is entirely too soon! Where is our notice??? We are not going to let you in to do this, we are not ready."

My question is this.

What rights to I have as a landlord and property owner?

I posted the notice, the extermination HAS to happen. There are apparently, roaches building up in the walls.

What if they refuse to let us in the door on the 5th if July, even though its scheduled and we show up that morning?

Do I get a sheriff? How can I be liable for their habitability, yet not be allowed by them into the apartment. I have never encountered this before.


Bug Rebellion (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 10:50 PM

There is no letting you in. You gave plenty of notice. You can post a 30 day non renewal now. That simple. 5 days notice is was acceptable. --73.230.xxx.xx

Bug Rebellion (by Duplexer [IL]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 11:29 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by 'there is no letting you in', you mean I cannot go in to spray? I have to wait 30 days?


Bug Rebellion (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2022 7:33 AM

Sorry-I meant that they have to let you in or their refusal should be noted in a text or email. I would give 30 days non renewal. Done with the games with them. Either they have something to hide or are super paranoid. Possible extra people/pets/doing something they shouldn't. When I had the exterminator, I would text my people as soon as I knew-usually about a week and give the same time frame I got-usually a 4 hour window. They wanted rid of them so we worked through it.

Pretty sure she is making excuses. I would even tell them by your state's law, you only have to give X amount of notice-her is your 30 days. It is not the first time they have refused you entry into YOUR apartment. You have allowed it so they feel they can push it. --73.230.xxx.xx

Bug Rebellion (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2022 7:35 AM

Time for the slobs to go. Then hire the exterminator. --172.58.xxx.xx

Bug Rebellion (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2022 8:17 AM

Pretty simple. Just reschedule. Keep the peace. Pick another day on July to come (and not the 6 the lol) --172.56.xx.xx

Bug Rebellion (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2022 8:27 AM

Are these residents Re-Trainable?

If the answer is no - cut your losses and get your life back. You have an issue that needs addressed with or without the tenants living there. --24.101.xxx.xxx

Bug Rebellion (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2022 1:27 PM

Duplexer! You will soon be getting your life back with the crybaby and slobs gone. In our lease there is a charge for each time we are not let into a unit where we gave proper notice for entry. You may want to include that in your new lease for new tenants.

Do a careful and thorough vetting of new prospects, following many of the many postings regarding how/what to do. Don't forget the 2 minute walk through to avoid slobs.

I also would wait until the slobs were gone to have the exterminator come.

Good luck and let us know how things proceed. --75.11.xx.xx

Bug Rebellion (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2022 1:50 PM

Reschedule. If there are roaches a quick visit by you would not find them. --108.24.xx.xx

Bug Rebellion (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2022 5:32 PM

Telling the tenants that you were going to raise the rent when they reported a problem to you can be seen as a retaliatory action and doesn't look favorably upon you. The problem you are learning is that no one is appreciative of you keeping their rent low and you get no credit for it I hope you learned to keep rents up at least a little bit at a time because no one thanks you for not doing it and it just comes back to hurt you anyway. --172.58.xxx.xx

Bug Rebellion (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jul 1, 2022 5:40 PM

First of all what does your lease say about the landlords right to enter? If it's like most, it's a 24 hour notice. If that is the case and if they don't let the exterminator in then post a quit notice and if they don't move then file for eviction after the appropriate time (3 days in my neck of the woods).

Aldo's rule, the landlord is in charge. In this case your tenant thinks she is in control, thus the struggle for power. You simply can not let her dictate new rules that are outside of the law and your lease otherwise she will ruin you. --209.205.xxx.xx

Bug Rebellion (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 2, 2022 11:11 AM

Chalking all the cracks in baseboards, kitchen cupboards along with insulation foam in holes in walls and floors will shut down the roach highway. Spraying does not resolve as the roaches come out later. The roaches will stay in one rental unit as they move from to another. The cost of chalking and a few cans of insulation foam are much less then using other means to eliminate roaches. --216.110.xxx.xxx

Bug Rebellion (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 3, 2022 9:32 AM

Wallet training should be in the form of -service denied fee- just look at any service company in your area for verbiage and cost, add to your new lease. --76.190.xxx.xxx

Bug Rebellion (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Jul 3, 2022 6:51 PM

In Indiana, we are allowed to go in with 24 hours' notice. And there is an exception if "damage" is being done to the house where we can go in with no notice (For example, you drive by on a rainy day, the curtains are open, and you see water pouring into the living room). You don't need their permission as long as you've given proper notice...TELL them you need to have this done and you're coming in. Given their attitude, I would send a non-renewal notice right after you treat...your state law will dictate how many days you must give them to get out. --99.92.xxx.xxx

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