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wear n tear Q (by small potatoes [NY]) Jun 29, 2022 11:24 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Steve [MA]) Jun 30, 2022 5:47 AM
       wear n tear Q (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jun 30, 2022 7:25 AM
       wear n tear Q (by WMH [NC]) Jun 30, 2022 8:21 AM
       wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 8:25 AM
       wear n tear Q (by Still Learning [NH]) Jun 30, 2022 8:45 AM
       wear n tear Q (by David [MI]) Jun 30, 2022 9:31 AM
       wear n tear Q (by Busy [WI]) Jun 30, 2022 9:43 AM
       wear n tear Q (by Hoosier [IN]) Jun 30, 2022 10:11 AM
       wear n tear Q (by Lauren IN [IN]) Jun 30, 2022 3:46 PM
       wear n tear Q (by plenty [MO]) Jun 30, 2022 3:51 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Ken [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 7:15 PM
       wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 30, 2022 8:04 PM

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wear n tear Q (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 29, 2022 11:24 PM
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I have a couple that split up, one half is moving into one of my vacancies, the other is staying put. There is W&T in one room that was used for an office. I was there to repair damage to the painted floor from the office chair. BTW I offered them the opportunity to fix the damage or I could and gave an estimate, as per NY reqs.

When the room was emptied I could see where the walls were rubbed by the furniture. Question for you- would you paint the walls because the remaining tenant is starting a new lease with a new deposit, or would you leave it as is? If context helps the damage and wear were done by the departing tenant and the remaining one keeps a very clean apt. If they both moved, there might not have been other work needed to turn it over.

--24.194.xxx.xx




wear n tear Q (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 5:47 AM
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I would do what needs to be done to put the place back to my standard move in condition. Then I would deduct from the SD for anything that was true tenant neglect / damage. I would require the remaining tenant to pay a full SD & issue them a new statement of condition as well as a receipt for the SD.

I suppose that you could always discuss this with the tenant who's staying to see if the paint's condition is acceptable to them. However, since you mentioned that "remaining one keeps a very clean apt", I definitely want them to keep doing so & want them to change their way. --72.93.xxx.xx




wear n tear Q (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 7:25 AM
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Do you plan on terminating the current lease and settling it out by returning the deposit and then ask them to give you a new deposit?

--24.101.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 8:21 AM
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Rubs on wall paint from furniture is the very DEFINITION of wear & tear. Damage to floor is not. --50.82.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 8:25 AM
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yes we have signed a new lease +security and I am deducting the damages from the current security. I am inclined to paint the room but I wish I had seen the walls before I did the floor. I had to paint the floor first because of scheduling issues. --172.58.xxx.xx




wear n tear Q (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 8:45 AM
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If they are not dents or gauges, try a magic eraser to remove the furniture rub marks? --75.67.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 9:31 AM
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"Question for you- would you paint the walls because the remaining tenant is starting a new lease with a new deposit, or would you leave it as is?"

1) no , I would not. there was no turnover, I don't do any freshing up

2) I would use the movein checklist of the new lease to guide what damages I deduct from old deposit --50.4.xxx.x




wear n tear Q (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 9:43 AM
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Painted floor? Wear n tear.

If it was a polyurethened floor, and there were excessive gouges, yeah, ok, might be more than wear n tear. I cannot think of a paint that holds up THAT well. Depends on the primer, I'd imagine.

Note- I don't like dinging tenants for things that weren't deliberately done. Tenant was rolling an office chair. With a painted floor, even a plastic floor protector or a thin carpet would probably scuff the paint. --70.92.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 10:11 AM
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Seems like you are mixing terms. You say you were there to fix the “damage” to the floor…if it’s damage then it’s not wear and tear. Perhaps you meant you were there to refresh the “worn” painted floor?

If the wall issue is more of a scuff then I’d consider it wear and tear, but if it’s a gouge that requires drywall work I would consider it damage.

Whether or not to improve normal wear and tear is a gray area. If they were both moving out, would you have worked on these things? If so, then I’d do it and not charge them.

I think a large part of the answer is their attitude. If they are going to be asking for a lot of things in the future that are not truly necessary but just nice to have then I would be careful about opening up a precedent here. But if they are good tenants and agreeable and reasonable people and you want to keep them I would try to lend some help in the situation. --99.92.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Lauren IN [IN]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 3:46 PM
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I would not have a new lease for the tenant who is staying; I would have a lease modification removing the other tenant so that way you use condition from the original move-in date (with all of your move-in pictures). Meanwhile, ask the two of them if there are any damages that the one moving is responsible for, and this will be deducted from their portion of the deposit.

When one roommate moves out (at the end of the lease, not in the middle), their portion of damage deposit is returned and the other staying tenant must pay their portion. I have the tenant who is staying pay their make-up portion when they extend the lease. Another way to do it is to have the one moving out sign an agreement that the entire damage deposit now belongs to the one who is staying.

Make sure to address how the damage deposit is being handled in the rental extension for the one who is staying. --107.221.xxx.xx




wear n tear Q (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 3:51 PM
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I would charge them for this, it's abuse and they did not take care when they first experience the floor or wall damage. --172.56.xx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
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folks I thought my sentence structure easy to follow. forget I mentioned damages. there is wear on the walls and it won't rub off. if this was a complete turnover I would paint it. I will still prolly paint it.

Lauren what would a lease modification look like? it is simple enough to sign a fresh lease and receive a deposit for the remaining tenant, than get caught in the cross hairs of who owes who how much from their original deposit.

Busy, yes paint mixed w polly. at the beginning tenant was told to get floor protection under their chair and they did not. it took up the paint and splintered the wood that it took w it. I sanded, patched and painted again. this is the damage part.

these have not been demanding tenants, and as I said their unit is in otherwise pristine condition. --172.58.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
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folks I thought my sentence structure easy to follow. forget I mentioned damages. there is wear on the walls and it won't rub off. if this was a complete turnover I would paint it. I will still prolly paint it.

Lauren what would a lease modification look like? it is simple enough to sign a fresh lease and receive a deposit for the remaining tenant, than get caught in the cross hairs of who owes who how much from their original deposit.

Busy, yes paint mixed w polly. at the beginning tenant was told to get floor protection under their chair and they did not. it took up the paint and splintered the wood that it took w it. I sanded, patched and painted again. this is the damage part.

these have not been demanding tenants, and as I said their unit is in otherwise pristine condition. --172.58.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
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folks I thought my sentence structure easy to follow. forget I mentioned damages. there is wear on the walls and it won't rub off. if this was a complete turnover I would paint it. I will still prolly paint it.

Lauren what would a lease modification look like? it is simple enough to sign a fresh lease and receive a deposit for the remaining tenant, than get caught in the cross hairs of who owes who how much from their original deposit.

Busy, yes paint mixed w polly. at the beginning tenant was told to get floor protection under their chair and they did not. it took up the paint and splintered the wood that it took w it. I sanded, patched and painted again. this is the damage part.

these have not been demanding tenants, and as I said their unit is in otherwise pristine condition. --172.58.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
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folks I thought my sentence structure easy to follow. forget I mentioned damages. there is wear on the walls and it won't rub off. if this was a complete turnover I would paint it. I will still prolly paint it.

Lauren what would a lease modification look like? it is simple enough to sign a fresh lease and receive a deposit for the remaining tenant, than get caught in the cross hairs of who owes who how much from their original deposit.

Busy, yes paint mixed w polly. at the beginning tenant was told to get floor protection under their chair and they did not. it took up the paint and splintered the wood that it took w it. I sanded, patched and painted again. this is the damage part.

these have not been demanding tenants, and as I said their unit is in otherwise pristine condition. --172.58.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
Message:

folks I thought my sentence structure easy to follow. forget I mentioned damages. there is wear on the walls and it won't rub off. if this was a complete turnover I would paint it. I will still prolly paint it.

Lauren what would a lease modification look like? it is simple enough to sign a fresh lease and receive a deposit for the remaining tenant, than get caught in the cross hairs of who owes who how much from their original deposit.

Busy, yes paint mixed w polly. at the beginning tenant was told to get floor protection under their chair and they did not. it took up the paint and splintered the wood that it took w it. I sanded, patched and painted again. this is the damage part.

these have not been demanding tenants, and as I said their unit is in otherwise pristine condition. --172.58.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 4:55 PM
Message:

folks I thought my sentence structure easy to follow. forget I mentioned damages. there is wear on the walls and it won't rub off. if this was a complete turnover I would paint it. I will still prolly paint it.

Lauren what would a lease modification look like? it is simple enough to sign a fresh lease and receive a deposit for the remaining tenant, than get caught in the cross hairs of who owes who how much from their original deposit.

Busy, yes paint mixed w polly. at the beginning tenant was told to get floor protection under their chair and they did not. it took up the paint and splintered the wood that it took w it. I sanded, patched and painted again. this is the damage part.

these have not been demanding tenants, and as I said their unit is in otherwise pristine condition. --172.58.xxx.xxx




wear n tear Q (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 7:15 PM
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In NY currently i like a new lease,although personally i would go month to month agreement but either way it starts the clock over for amount of time to give notice to move or rent increases,might be a good time to raise the rent also --74.77.xx.xx




wear n tear Q (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 30, 2022 8:04 PM
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Ken I did raise the rent, tenant would be entering their 3rd year, so better to start the clock over.

apologies for the multiple posts --172.58.xxx.xxx



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