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Snakes (by Valerie [VA]) Jun 18, 2022 5:50 PM
       Snakes (by Allym [NJ]) Jun 18, 2022 6:09 PM
       Snakes (by Bonanza [NC]) Jun 18, 2022 9:04 PM
       Snakes (by Paul [UT]) Jun 19, 2022 12:08 AM
       Snakes (by MAP [NY]) Jun 19, 2022 9:12 AM
       Snakes (by Nicole [PA]) Jun 19, 2022 9:39 AM
       Snakes (by WMH [NC]) Jun 19, 2022 11:50 AM
       Snakes (by Pat [VA]) Jun 19, 2022 11:52 AM
       Snakes (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jun 19, 2022 12:17 PM
       Snakes (by MC [PA]) Jun 19, 2022 3:30 PM
       Snakes (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jun 20, 2022 8:05 AM
       Snakes (by DJ [VA]) Jun 20, 2022 8:34 AM
       Snakes (by DJ [VA]) Jun 21, 2022 8:14 AM
       Snakes (by Nicole [PA]) Jun 21, 2022 12:30 PM
       Snakes (by 6x6 [TN]) Jun 22, 2022 8:10 PM
       Snakes (by Lana [IN]) Jun 22, 2022 10:04 PM

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Snakes (by Valerie [VA]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2022 5:50 PM

Arrived to collect the move-in inspection form today and saw the two approved cats (that I charged $250 registration fee but waived pet rent) and undisclosed set up for a fish tank. Also discovered a room with tanks holding 7 snakes and 1 geeko. Polite military tenant and girlfriend - who both scored very high on NTN.

So now what?! Clear lease violation but what to do in the real world. Do I do a pet addendum and charge pet rent for these snakes? Already know Iím not going to go hardline and make them get rid of them (though Iím really not into it at all). Thoughts? Ideas?

Snakes (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2022 6:09 PM

So now you know they are sneaky snakes themselves. Watch them and expect problems. --108.24.xx.xx

Snakes (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2022 9:04 PM

Well you got to pick your battles. You already said you aren't going to kick them out for being lying sneaks.

You might try raising the rent $50-100 a month and at least get some extra money for the unauthorized pets. My lease says $300 fine for un authorized pets.

Make it clear that you will tolerate no additional animals of any kind.

Snakes (by Paul [UT]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2022 12:08 AM

I don't have a problem with reptiles, birds etc. Unless they are poisonous. then it's a hard no.

Snakes (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2022 9:12 AM

poisonous or constrictors... umm no.

Snakes (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2022 9:39 AM

your best chance "to do something" was when you were standing there with them.

For me, 7 snakes and they would have received an eviction notice the same day.

Snakes (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2022 11:50 AM

Nicole, I kind disagree: no face to face confrontation as we never know how they will react.

Go home, write up a violation of lease and issue an eviction notice for that. No need to get into a verbal back and forth.

Snakes (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2022 11:52 AM

I hate when people feel entitled to just do anything they darn well please. We've had people sneak in snakes too, and I'll tell you what we found. Big rat droppings in the closets from where they raised FOOD for the dad blamed snakes!

I worry about the weight of aquariums and the damage they can do if they leak too.

I see adventure in your future.

Snakes (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2022 12:17 PM

And tenants do this pet sneaking for the exact reason that very few landlords will do anything about it once the tenant and the undeclared pets are in.

I do not permit fish tanks so the tenants would be informed that the fish would have to go. If they want to keep the tank, they can give away the fish and drain the tank and store it dry.

They will get rid of the snakes and fish rather than move if you order them to get rid of the unauthorized pets. Craigslist is full of ads re-homing small pets because the landlord said to get rid of them.

In future, more clear about pet policy. Make sure they know in no uncertain terms that only the listed pets are allowed because tenants have it in their heads that fish tanks and reptiles and pet rats don't count as pets.

Snakes (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2022 3:30 PM

Had a tenant with a snake. It was found dead in the basement.

Snakes (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2022 8:05 AM

Let me guess....these were seven ESA snakes

Snakes (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2022 8:34 AM

I can't say what is the best thing for you to do now, but I think I would give them written notice / happy clause option-before damage is done. They are new. Must law the law down now, or it will only get worse. you want to use some of this wording in the future, you may:

Included in my Rental agreement "Animal" clause -

NO dog, cat, bird, fish, reptile, or any other animal of any kind, permanent or visiting, indoor or outdoor, shall be permitted on the premises without prior written consent of Landlord.

_____ (initial) Any animal desired as an occupant requires the submission of an Animal Application and approval of the same by Landlord, before being allowed on the premises. Animal occupants are limited to dogs, cats, or fish in a maximum of 5-gallon size tank. (One fish tank counts as 1 animal, no matter how many fish are in it.) Any animal with a history of aggressive behavior will be prohibited. In no instance will more than TWO animals be allowed. Every animal (except fish) must be spayed or neutered, be at least one year old, and be kept current on all required vaccinations and registration.

In my Animal Application -

Only the animal described above and approved below will be an authorized occupant. If an animal dies, or is removed from the premises for any reason, it may not automatically be replaced with another. If Tenant wishes to replace or add an animal after taking possession of the rental property, a new animal application must be submitted to and approved by Landlord before that animal is allowed onto the premises.

Snakes (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2022 8:14 AM

BTW: You say it is a clear lease violation, but you don't plan to enforce it.I recommend you (Nobody should ever) never sign a legal contract that contains something you do not intend to abide by.

Snakes (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2022 12:30 PM

WMH - I am a talker. I am not loud (well sometimes!) or confrontational. I truly cannot imagine (although I know it 'can' happen) a direct, calm, discussion about something right in front of my face situation is better resolved by a letter in the mail several days later rather than a conversation when it is happening. It wouldn't turn confrontational or a shouting match because I would walk away should the tenant start. Can they shoot me in the back? Sure, but so can the idiot robbing the minimart while I am purchasing my iced tea.

Snakes (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2022 8:10 PM

I have a friend who raises snakes and if I remember correctly, he keeps the room very hot and humid for the snakes. He also feeds them rats.

Snakes (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Jun 22, 2022 10:04 PM

I was thinking maybe these snakes ate geeko's. You got played.

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