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rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) May 11, 2022 11:07 AM
       rugged window treatments (by Bonanza [NC]) May 11, 2022 11:56 AM
       rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) May 11, 2022 12:00 PM
       rugged window treatments (by Busy [WI]) May 12, 2022 9:00 AM
       rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) May 12, 2022 10:16 AM
       rugged window treatments (by Busy [WI]) May 12, 2022 6:57 PM
       rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) May 12, 2022 8:45 PM
       rugged window treatments (by small potatoes [NY]) May 12, 2022 9:04 PM
       rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) May 12, 2022 10:33 PM
       rugged window treatments (by Sisco [MO]) May 13, 2022 10:33 AM
       rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) May 13, 2022 11:23 AM

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rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: May 11, 2022 11:07 AM
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I plan to use Levolor or Bali room darkening cellular shades, inside mount, for my student rentals (mostly bedrooms), and wanted to see if you know anything better in terms of reliability, cost, and aesthetic. I fully furnish my student rentals like a decent Airbnb. Knock on wood, in 16 years, no student has intentionally damaged my property, though 12 students in an 8 bedroom house, causes serious wear and tear.

I’ve used Levolor cellular shades in one house, and never a problem in 4 years. $78 each for 36 x 72 “Room Darkening Cordless Cellular Shade”. They look good and with a close-fitting, inside mount, they block light well. They work well over window AC units (unlike curtains) and below-window radiators. They only go up and down, so not the privacy/light adjustability of a mini-blind, which cost $18 in the same size.

As you can see, cellular shades are over 4 times the cost of mini blinds, but if I install mini blinds in June, when I show the place in November, 20% of the mini blinds are already broken. And I think mini blinds scream “cheap”, where cellular shades are upscale. What do you think? Do you have any alternatives? I looked at roller shades, but not much cheaper than cellular shades and no better reliability per the reviews.

I do like light filtering curtains in living rooms if they’re dark enough to watch TV. The living room seems like the right place for curtains.

Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!

--74.102.xx.xx




rugged window treatments (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: May 11, 2022 11:56 AM
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I installed some Levelor trim and go room darkening and light filtering cellular blinds in my own house (from Lowes). The two room darkening shades would not go up after 3 months. I called Levelor and they replaced them. Been working fine since. The light filtering ones I've had no issues with. --71.217.xxx.xx




rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: May 11, 2022 12:00 PM
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That's interesting Bonanza, I didn't have any problems with my Levolor's, but in the product reviews were complaints like yours, of the blinds not going up. Good that Levolor replaced them!

--74.102.xx.xx




rugged window treatments (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: May 12, 2022 9:00 AM
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Does anyone know if tenants will damage them bt trying to peek out the side, without opening the shade? That's what I am imagining happening. Always amazes me that tenants poke their fingers in and separate the blinds to peek out, instead of using the wand and angling the blinds to peer out. Some leave a grayish spot where they do this frequently. And, I suspect thats where most broken slats come from.

But, I like the extra energy efficiency and noise control of cellular shades. --70.92.xxx.xxx




rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: May 12, 2022 10:16 AM
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Busy, I'm not sure about tenants looking, but can tell you cats looking cause damage to mini blinds.

Interesting point on energy efficiency, though I suspect the shade insulation causes the window surface to be colder, increasing mold growth on the inside window and frame surfaces. --74.102.xx.xx




rugged window treatments (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: May 12, 2022 6:57 PM
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Yep, about the mold. We had put up some really cheapy plastic roll up shades on our own home when we first moved here, as the windows were huge-144 inches long x 48 inches high, on two living room walls. The shades we had were a white plastic hollow straw , with white cotton string weaving them together. Being hollow straws ( 148 inch long straws, mind you,) they did provide a bit of energy efficiency. But, we used to get small bits of mold on those windows, if I didn't put that plastic window film on in the fall.

We've since replaced those oversized windows, had Pella install smaller windows, closer to 100 inches x 48 inches tall, with pleated shades between the glass, so triple pane windows. Thus, no more condensation, and much less drafts.

On my rentals, before I replaced any of the wood windows, I used to cut pieces of polycarbonate to fit the lower sash on the inside, upper sash on the outside. Drilled holes for my panhead screws to go in. Ran a bead of clear caulk around edge. Cozy warm, and break-in resistant. But, one tenants' child tested positive for lead, and before the city's results came back, I elected to have the windows replaced. City's lead program was very flawed, if you replaced windows, they stopped looking. Case closed. Never would give me any test results, kept saying since I replaced the windows, they weren't looking any further. Hmmm.... Not that I wanted them to find more lead, but, since they came and took over 30 samples, I figured they'd give me a report. --70.92.xxx.xxx




rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: May 12, 2022 8:45 PM
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Hmmm...that's something I hadn't considered with new windows, getting rid of condensation. And nice solution using the polycarbonate on single pane windows. I'd imagine it's good to do it on a dry day, as the caulk would seal the air's moisture between the layers. I wonder how your method compares to a modern day double pane window, as far as security (ease of breaking into). --74.102.xx.xx




rugged window treatments (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: May 12, 2022 9:04 PM
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why not 2" faux wood blinds? I looked at triple cell celular shades and they just seem fragile. Can't believe students wouldn't poke a hole in them. Blinds.com is owned by HD and if you sign up for their email you will constantly get sales pitches as much as 45% off regular price. That's where my 2" fw blinds came from, got the version w/ the cord darkening feature, quite nice. 78ish or so down from 120 ea --24.194.xxx.xx




rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: May 12, 2022 10:33 PM
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I thought you suggested these before, but it was RathdrumGal who in 2018 said: "I have been happy with the cut to fit 2 inch faux wood blinds at Lowes and HD. They are sturdy and easier to wipe down than the mini blinds. Tenants seem to like them too"

I agree with you, the cellular shades do seem fragile, and I read the bugs can get stuck inside them. I see Levolor also makes the 2" faux wood blinds and they're in stock at lowes. And they look nice and I think are more adjustable than the cellular shades. I'm gona sleep on it, but I think I'm sold!

Glad I asked. Thank you! -Bill --74.102.xx.xx




rugged window treatments (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: May 13, 2022 10:33 AM
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BillW, check out the Allen Roth line of blinds at Lowes. They are significantly cheaper and built tough. --149.76.xxx.xxx




rugged window treatments (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: May 13, 2022 11:23 AM
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Thanks for the recommendation, Sisco. I was looking at those, and helpful to know you recommend them. The Levolor's cost is substantial when you add up all the windows.

--74.102.xx.xx



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