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Free LL Association (by LeePookie [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 7:47 AM
       Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Jan 26, 2022 8:17 AM
       Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 8:20 AM
       Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Jan 26, 2022 8:37 AM
       Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 8:49 AM
       Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 8:51 AM
       Free LL Association (by Rick [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 9:03 AM
       Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Jan 26, 2022 9:17 AM
       Free LL Association (by LeePookie [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 10:10 AM
       Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Jan 26, 2022 10:26 AM
       Free LL Association (by LeePookie [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 10:30 AM
       Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 10:32 AM
       Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 10:33 AM
       Free LL Association (by Busy [WI]) Jan 26, 2022 12:06 PM
       Free LL Association (by Rick [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 12:57 PM
       Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Jan 26, 2022 1:21 PM
       Free LL Association (by Allym [NJ]) Jan 26, 2022 1:27 PM
       Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 1:32 PM
       Free LL Association (by LeePookie [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 4:09 PM
       Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Jan 26, 2022 5:45 PM
       Free LL Association (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 6:56 PM
       Free LL Association (by Ken [NY]) Jan 26, 2022 8:27 PM
       Free LL Association (by zero [IN]) Jan 28, 2022 8:05 AM


Free LL Association (by LeePookie [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 7:47 AM
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We have hosted our local LL association for around 10 years now. We bring in speakers from all areas of our businesses. It has been great. And yes, we pretty much modeled it after Brad's 20k group, just smaller. lol

This year we are trying something different. NO DUES. Yep, a landlord's dream. Something free. If you thing collecting form residents is hard, try getting in those tight local landlord pockets. Gheesh! (wink)

All kidding aside, it is a great networking event. We now do lunch or breakfast. No speaker. No asking for dues. Come as you are. Food tab on you.

First month went well. About same participation. It should be a good trial run this year. We shall see

--96.31.xxx.xxx




Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 8:17 AM
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Lee,

Based on my past experience with clubs of various types, there is a psychological reason why you need to charge membership dues or just a entrance fee to inside.

Without dues, people 'think or assume' the club has no value and will not come for that reason. When you require money to get through the front door, the opposite happens, people who really want the information (even cheapskate L's) will pay the admission fee and attend. Everything in people's mindset today revolves around money. Anything that does not cost anything, usually is considered just a worthless sales pitch to get people inside to be sold something later on.

Just charge something at the front door. You do not want a bunch of deadbeats in there who only want something for free. If there is value or something to be gained, people will pay money for that. --71.207.xxx.x




Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 8:20 AM
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Roy, we charged dues and still couldnít get people to come. Iím pretty sure our club is defunct now. It was meeting for 30+ years. --24.152.xxx.xx




Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 8:37 AM
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NE,

That is because you were not offering people anything of real value or even perceived value. There is a reason that Jeffrey has a small entrance fee to the Mr. LL convention,...people will pay it because of what he as to offer. If he did not charge anything to get in,...there would not be enough room inside to hold all of the cheapskates who would show up wanting something for nothing.

--71.207.xxx.x




Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 8:49 AM
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Thatís not the case at all Roy. I believe a change in leader ship was our ultimate demise. Coupled with the shut down of a scamdemic and remote zoom calls. Who wants to do that? Faded away from attrition. --174.198.x.xx




Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 8:51 AM
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And Roy, like I said we did charge a fee yearly and also a higher fee at the door. We used to have some very good turn out. --174.198.x.xx




Free LL Association (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 9:03 AM
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Where is this at? --72.173.xx.xx




Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 9:17 AM
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NE,

Imagine what would happen if I advertised one of my rental houses on Zillow for free rent. Every evicted deadbeat and homeless person for a 100 miles would show up begging for the keys,...but these are NOT the people I would want babysitting my house. This is the reason Lee needs to charge something to enter the front door. --71.207.xxx.x




Free LL Association (by LeePookie [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 10:10 AM
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Roy, I totally get that. Brad told me the same thing several years ago. Just a little experiment on my part. Plus its eating so I am always game. lol. We may start charging $5 then donating the proceeds to a local charity or cause.

But you are right Roy, even our no strings attached FREE Christmas lunch gets first timers skeptical. No time share sales pitch here, just eat and be merry!

Rick, we meet several different place in Southern Indiana. Usually it was at Tel City Ivy Tech. Last month at one of my favorite restaurants. Spencer, Perry, Crawford Counties in Indiana and Breck, Hancock, Daviess counties in Kentucky --96.31.xxx.xxx




Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 10:26 AM
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Lee,

6 months ago, I offered my only vacancy for 2 weeks only to a homeless couple (man/wife) who I have known for years. I only asked they keep the house occupied and clean for 2 weeks until I can get time to deal with it. Guess what happened? I will never do that again. Some folks just deserve to be homeless. --71.207.xxx.x




Free LL Association (by LeePookie [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 10:30 AM
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I too have a soft heart, Roy.

And some folks don't "get it" when it comes to hand outs... Framework of Poverty by Dr. Ruby Payne explains a lot.

It seems to harden as I age. Maybe it's the business, older age wisdom, or maybe it's Maybelline! --96.31.xxx.xxx




Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 10:32 AM
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Sometimes I think you can get more out of a lunch with one or two landlords, than you can the big group also. So donít give up on the no charge, BYOB lunches. --174.198.x.xx




Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 10:33 AM
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Roy, why in the world would you do that? --174.198.x.xx




Free LL Association (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 12:06 PM
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Roy, that homeless couple.... The road to Hades is paved with good intentions... they intended to ..... however, as you sharply learned, some people have absolutely no follow through... which is where the whole ' pull oneself up by the bootstraps mentality comes into play. Until THEY turn intentions into USEFUL actions, they will just suck others down with them into the mire....

For my LL association, the meeting day is one of my days of the week I am otherwise engaged, for a long, busy day. Too knackered to go out in the evening, even if I am available by meeting time. Then, if everyone is wearing face coverings, conversations will be useless to me. Didn't realize how much I read lips to decipher what others are saying, not to mention how it muffles speech. So free or not free, wouldn't matter.

Lunch or dinner out with a couple of landlords would be much more useful. So long as no face coverings were impeding ..... though, my little empire is running fairly smoothly...for now... --70.92.xxx.xxx




Free LL Association (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 12:57 PM
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If you would, let me know date, time, and location. Sounds good! --72.173.xx.xx




Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 1:21 PM
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Roy, why in the world would you do that? I have my reasons.

This homeless couple I met 4 years ago has been my 'go-to' people whenever I have an eviction and an entire house of junk needs to be put on the curb in less than 1 hour. They are experts at doing this and I pay them cash for it. The nice thing about about homeless people is they are always available and they never argue with me about how much or how little I may pay them. This is just the tip of the iceberg though, there are other things I use these people for,..ie. grunt work where I can't find anyone else to do at any price.

NE- So, who does your filthy grunt work? Like when the outside sewer clean-out is over flowing? --71.207.xxx.x




Free LL Association (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 1:27 PM
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Garden club I belong to holds its own for over 60 years: dues yearly, one meeting a month, food served made by member committee and each member has a turn; speaker not necessarily from outside on some aspect of gardening. Every two years a flower show by members with awards, charity projects. --108.24.xx.xx




Free LL Association (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 1:32 PM
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I donít consider Cleaning a sewer clean out to be grunt work. I certainly wouldnít want some $4 an hour toothless alcoholic potentially messing something like that up. --24.152.xxx.xx




Free LL Association (by LeePookie [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 4:09 PM
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Our February meeting will be at

The Patio, Cannelton, IN 47520

2/18/2022 at 11:00 Central Time

The More -The Merrier --96.31.xxx.xxx




Free LL Association (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 5:45 PM
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NE,

With an over-flowed sewer cleanout, I need someone to scatter Lime on everything solid that is laying on the ground. Then take a rake and shovel and put everything inside a plastic garbage bag which will end up in the garbage can. Do you know how difficult it is to hire someone (on short notice too) to do this job? The tenant who unscrewed the cap is not going to do it and the kid next door who mows the lawn is not going to do it. So, with my homeless couple, I offer to give them $20.00 and they are happy to get this 30 minute job.

I wish Indiana was not so far away. I would pay $5.00 at the door just to hear Lee and Pookie speak on any topic they care to talk about. --71.207.xxx.x




Free LL Association (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 6:56 PM
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Leookie,

(Psst...don't tell my group!)

You are absolutely correct - LLs are THE HARDEST people to get money from!

Congrats on "reading" your group and trying something new.

Tip: we added AUTOMATIC RENEWAL via autodraft and have many takers.

Leadership makes all the difference. Lee and Pookie's upbeat attitude and williness to share ideas keeps people coming back.

We've been doing a LL lunch (just lunch, no topics) for years. Great gossip on on deadbeats and the judge.

Since Covid we've been online only for both lunch and the monthly training sessions. Attendance is unpredictable but I'm keeping the group alive.

We're getting several non-local, even out of state LLs joining.

It does take a lot of energy to keep it rolling.

I find new LLs are not interested until they figure out they lost $3000 and lost in court to a deadbeat. Even still they don't want answers, they want someone to complain to!

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Free LL Association (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 8:27 PM
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The landlord groups i have been a part of i have found whoever is running it and speaking in front of the group is considered a real estate expert regardless of how much knowledge they actually have and as a result there are a lot of deals offered to them that other members never heard about.Assuming that is benefitting Lee and Brad. --72.231.xxx.xxx




Free LL Association (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jan 28, 2022 8:05 AM
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LeePookie, that sounds like something I would like to join in on, but alas I am nearly four hours away.

Anybody know of gatherings like this, either in person or on a forum, in the East central part of IN? About mid way between Indy and Ft. Wayne.

New to here so not even sure how to communicate one on one. --107.147.xx.xxx





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