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RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 9:24 AM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 9:26 AM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Ken [NY]) Jan 25, 2022 9:39 AM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Steve [MA]) Jan 25, 2022 10:29 AM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Nicole [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 10:52 AM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Lynn [MA]) Jan 25, 2022 11:35 AM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 11:39 AM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 25, 2022 12:03 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 12:08 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Homer [TX]) Jan 25, 2022 12:19 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 12:25 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by #22 [MO]) Jan 25, 2022 12:25 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 25, 2022 12:27 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 12:42 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 25, 2022 12:44 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 12:52 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 12:57 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 25, 2022 1:37 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 1:49 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 3:05 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 25, 2022 6:51 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 25, 2022 6:53 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 7:18 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by #22 [MO]) Jan 25, 2022 7:27 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 7:29 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 25, 2022 7:44 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 7:49 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 25, 2022 9:46 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by MAP [NY]) Jan 26, 2022 12:31 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 26, 2022 1:01 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by MAP [NY]) Jan 26, 2022 1:09 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 1:18 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Jan 26, 2022 6:31 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 7:16 PM
       RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Jan 26, 2022 7:19 PM


RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 9:24 AM
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I was able to get my RRP refresher course scheduled. Now do I believe this is a money crab by the government, absolutely. But I also understand that it is the law to get recertified every few years.

I am wondering how many of you attended the training.

--24.101.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 9:26 AM
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Thatís still a thing? My local hardware store clearanced out all their RRP merchandise years ago. --24.152.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 9:39 AM
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I did the initial course but never updated it.I cant even find anyone with the certificate to do the work and i dont do the work anymore --72.231.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 10:29 AM
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I got my original RRP certificate back in 2010 when the program first started. Just before my certificate expired, I took the refresher course but haven't bothered to take it again. I felt that since most of the requirements didn't apply to Joe Homeowner why should I bother with it. --71.174.xx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 10:52 AM
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I did mine perhaps 3 summers ago. Not sure when it expires/renews. Mine was put on by the health dept. of a local municipality ... and Plenty, we got lunch !!!

--98.237.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Lynn [MA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 11:35 AM
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I did my refresher last year via zoom. They said it's only good for 3 years because it was not in person. I didn't recertify as a firm. I don't think I'm going to renew again. --96.237.xx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 11:39 AM
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Itís neat to watch people no longer certifying. When I took the course, I skipped out before the test and was never officially certified. I said this is a joke. I donít work on units anyway. Let them live in squalor. ;-) --24.152.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:03 PM
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How is this a money grab? It is a strategy to reduce lead exposure. The EPA doesn't make any money off this. Not everything is a conspiracy unless you have deep issues. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:08 PM
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JAC, because yet again, they panicked the herd. Everyone was running around worrying about getting certified for RRP. Even on this forum. There were a few big news story busts right after the deadline and then you havenít heard a peep about it sense. I bounced from the class because I could tell it was a money grab then. And now 10 years later, there are more and more landlords here that arenít going to recertify because they can see the same thing. It was the crisis du jour, man. Get with the program. Itís tough being right all the time. --24.152.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:19 PM
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I took the class 10-11 years ago, when ever it was a big deal on this site. The instructor gave every answer prior to the test. Had us write them all down so we wouid all pass. Lol. The whole program is a joke. --66.169.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:25 PM
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Homer, I remember being outside with the instructor when I took my class. I smoked at the time and it was a cigarette break. It was just him and I standing there and I said to him, you know, the stuff doesnít make much sense from a construction perspective. It seems pretty ridiculous. He said yeah, itís all bull sh_t. That was all I needed to hear. --174.198.x.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:25 PM
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Did the class also. Complete insult and joke. Go off Jac. --174.209.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:27 PM
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I took the class 10 years ago for free. It was a good course, the instructor took time to go over all of the material and there was a test at the end. If your contracted instructor (none of them work for the EPA directly) wasn't doing his job to educate you properly then he isn't a very good professional. Lot's of "professionals" take shortcuts all the time. Every bit of the material was common sense precautions for reducing lead exposure. The cert lasts for 5 years. That is not a money grab, that is a refresher course for people that renovate. Professionals should not be afraid to review and update their knowledge. Grow up. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:42 PM
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The course that I took was free also. The money grab was in the $300 certification to the EPA that I skipped out on. I donít need to be certified to clean up after myself. I do a good job of that now because Iím trying to present a product that is 100% done perfect. Also, I donít care if the person presenting a certification in this fashion is professional or thorough at all. Iím not doing it for my benefit. For example, if I go to the landlord convention, I want every single thing that I can get out of that event. I will focus on and write down every single thing I can and filter it all out later. Sitting in the front row style! When Iím being forced by the EPA to get certified to clean up after myself, I could care less the information that comes from that program. Sitting in the back row and taking a nap style. Itís not for my benefit. You and I live in very different worlds, brother. You take everything the government throws at you as gospel and fact. I take everything that the government throws at me as a way for them to steal my money from me. And somewhere in between you and I lies America. --174.198.x.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:44 PM
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You resent someone telling you they know more than you. Your version of America has deep issues. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:52 PM
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My version of America has been handed down from 200 years of pioneers and farmers buddy. We do things our way. Going through life simply doing what youíre told and can lead to a very boxed in existence. --174.198.x.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 12:57 PM
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So let me guess, JAC, all the landlords here who donít renew their certificate are getting all these kids sick, because they donít have a little piece of paper from the EPA? Knowing you, I guarantee thatís how you think. Laughable. --174.198.x.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 1:37 PM
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They said the same thing when seat belt laws went into use. It's OK you will adapt. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 1:49 PM
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haha. Yeah well, you know. Just like Iím not gonna Pay to get certified to use a wet wipe and a dropcloth, Iím not going to take building construction advice from a known liberal. If somebody showed up at my job sites with your kind ideas, theyíd be laughed off the job by my guys if they werenít thrown off by me first. Now that thatís settled,on to the global warming debate! --174.198.x.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 3:05 PM
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The money grab is when the EPA tells you to register your business at $500 a pop after you get certified.

I take it you did do that Jac.....so you believe its okay to operate illegally? --24.101.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 6:51 PM
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I never got certified but did take the class. If your business can't afford $500 for a lead class certificate and your primary business model is renovation, you have a crappy business model. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 6:53 PM
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And your business should refund all of the "Lead charges" they tacked on 10 years ago. I bet that is more than $500 every 5 years. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 7:18 PM
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House flippers (Reno) are exempt. --24.152.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 7:27 PM
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Come on Ray. We all know Jac is like some of his other peers here. Do as I say, not as i do. This is a standard l1beral approach,especially when it comes to parting ways with one's money for taxes and regulation. --174.209.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 7:29 PM
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#22, JAC needs to sell and pursue his true calling; social worker. --24.152.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 7:44 PM
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Your victim culture is showing. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 7:49 PM
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Victim culture? Wouldnít further RRP compliance be catering to the victim culture? Canít these parents keep their own kids from eating the freaking walls and the molding on the windows? I fear you may have some deep rooted troubles JAC. Distorted perspective of reality. --24.152.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 9:46 PM
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All landlords who work on their own properties need to be certified Jac. If you own an LLC that has to be certified too. I don't make up the rules, I only try to follow them.

I realize it is very appealing for you to use the do as I say not as I do theory in life and your business - but it makes me think you ate too much lead as a child.

Let it go - this is making you look foolish....opppps never mind

--24.101.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 12:31 PM
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Somewhat related: Yesterday received a call from a caseworker who does the heating assistance program (NYS HEAP) one county over. Says there's a family with no heat but, GASP, there is ASBESTOS (cue scary music) on the pipes!

So this guy is calling around all of the HVAC companies signed up with the HEAP program trying to find someone who is "asbestos abatement certified" meanwhile a family has no heat in sub zero wind chills. I couldn't help but think that here is more regulation with "good intentions" that backfired and is affecting the lower income families the most. --72.231.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 1:01 PM
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It's a good class and raises awareness for less lead contamination. Along the same lines as obeying stops signs and wearing a seat belt. Quit your wining and move on. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 1:09 PM
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JAC, have to disagree. Not all legislation is "safety" motivated. Apples and oranges. Take Flint Michigan and the water supply. Again "good intentions" and hand wringers caused the water supply to go south. --72.231.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 1:18 PM
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JAC, that is played out reasoning. Doesnít work for this just like it didnít work for the other thing with the ďthingsĒ on the face. My seatbelt protects me, Iíll wear it. My lead education just costs me money. Itís the parents responsibility to protect their kids. Change your thinking, it creates more victims. I donít have any lead in my house, but if I did, who is protecting my kids from it besides me? --24.152.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 6:31 PM
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I will simplify it for those that need simplification. Lead is bad. Less lead is good. Sounds like the victims might be living in your home. --72.49.xxx.xxx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 7:16 PM
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And I will simplify it even further. In the bigger picture of things, not my problem. Now I know in some convoluted sort of way they can twist it around and make me responsible for tenants kids eating walls, but Iím reality, itís not my problem. Most professional landlords I have the units in good shape. Slumlords on the other hand, will have peeling paint and paint chips all over the place. Donít be a slumlord. Being certified in RRP does not make you any better at construction or renovation at all. It just protects you from extortion. --24.152.xxx.xx




RRP Refresher Scheduled (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 7:19 PM
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Hereís another one that shouldíve gotten every instructor in the country laughed off of stage during these courses; no hanging vinyl siding in the wind if there is lead present. Yeah, ok. Then post here about how you canít get anybody to show up for your jobs. It all sounds good, in theory. But practical application has to take over on most of this stuff after a while. I solved the problem by not working on my places anymore. :-) --24.152.xxx.xx





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