Landlord shoots tenant (by MikeA [TX]) Jan 24, 2022 12:20 PM|
Landlord shoots tenant (by Richard [MI]) Jan 24, 2022 1:26 PM
Landlord shoots tenant (by P. B. [MI]) Jan 24, 2022 2:59 PM
Landlord shoots tenant (by MikeA [TX]) Jan 24, 2022 3:11 PM
Landlord shoots tenant (by WL [CA]) Jan 24, 2022 5:36 PM
Landlord shoots tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Jan 24, 2022 6:00 PM
Landlord shoots tenant (by S i d [MO]) Jan 24, 2022 6:17 PM
Landlord shoots tenant (by Phil [OR]) Jan 25, 2022 8:32 AM
Landlord shoots tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 1:20 PM
Landlord shoots tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 26, 2022 6:28 PM
Landlord shoots tenant (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2022 12:20 PM
Interesting story. A sorted problem where a tenant stops paying and a frustrated landlord resorts to things like self help eviction and finally ends up killing the tenant.
Being a landlord can be frustrating, doubly frustrating the last couple of years with courts not conducting evictions but this landlords solution will likely end with her serving some time.
Even if her story is true that the tenant came out her while she was there cleaning (thus self defense), the previous interactions with tenant/police and throwing his belonging out and locking him out will prove hard to overcome through the court system. Having a witness or a recording would have been her best defense.
I've always been extremely careful interacting with tenants, especially ones that are not on good terms, for this very reason. If something happens, it's pretty easy to jump to the conclusion that the angry landlord flipped out whether or not it is true.
Landlord shoots tenant (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2022 1:26 PM
Some really poor reporting in the article. --75.7.xx.xx
Landlord shoots tenant (by P. B. [MI]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2022 2:59 PM
I do not become nearly as frustrated with tenants as my husband. I have informed him that he is no longer allowed to interact with the tenants.
I purchased this home along with two other units on another piece of property close by. Then got married. He knew this ahead of time yet I believe it sticks in his craw, as the saying goes. At one point when we had a very difficult tenant, my husband was going to teach him a lesson and I immediately intervened. I told him it is exactly what the tenant wanted and he was not worth us being sued and loosing everything I had worked for. It was touch and go for awhile and I informed my husband that if he didn't cool down and become reasonable he could go and spend time at his sons home until I had things under control. It could have very easily turned into what you are talking about above.
Some people just let things (tenants) get to them and it makes me wonder if some tenants do so on purpose just because they are sue happy. I did have one tenant that kept asking me to go into the pasture to pet my horses and I ALWAYS declined. I have no trespassing signs posted on our personnel property. I found out later that tenants mother had sued her past LL and received a substantial amount. NO one is worth ruining your life for or going to jail for, period. --67.22.x.x
Landlord shoots tenant (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2022 3:11 PM
PB, pretty sure you are right. Some tenants do it on purpose. Not sure if it is to take advantage of the legal system or because they want to stick-it to the man, or they are just generally unhappy with life but those are the ones that are really irritating. Ideally, you want to screen these people out before they invade your space. Sometimes, though they can slip through and that is when you need to be on your guard. --209.16.xx.xxx
Landlord shoots tenant (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2022 5:36 PM
There is a movie about this - Pacific Heights on Youtube or DVD. Tenant from hell looks to provoke LL into hitting him . . . Well worth watching. --68.107.xxx.x
Landlord shoots tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2022 6:00 PM
It's clear she murdered the tenant. --209.122.xx.xxx
Landlord shoots tenant (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2022 6:17 PM
She threw away his personal possession, including jewelry and cash? That just...doesn't sound right. At all.
Landlord shoots tenant (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2022 8:32 AM
Will be really hard to collect the rent that is owed. --73.11.xx.xx
Landlord shoots tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 1:20 PM
Thanks for posting this.
It reminds me that in all the times I knocked on their doors I NEVER got any money or positive results. Mostly arguments and threats. I finally stopped when I learned the court system AND when a res came to the door with a gun.
(I may be slow but I DO catch on!)
We shifted to WRITTEN ONLY. I would post a notice on their door.
For the last few years, ZERO TOLERANCE on lates has made a HUGE HUGE HUGE difference. We text, they pay. Done.
No weapons or arguments.
When they only owe a week of rent $230, it's not a big hairy deal.
My guess is she let him fall farther and farther behind, thus building animosity in the "finger".
The Prosecutor's said "She let anger control her finger." I'd say a little more than just here FINGER!
This lady needs to take Jeffrey's Boot Camp and learn how to manage a rental! Maybe Jeffrey can set up an online version she can take from prison?!? :)
Landlord shoots tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2022 6:28 PM
I wonder if there were any witnesses.
The deceased cannot tell his side of the event.
Her self-defense defense will not go far due to her previous actions.
I also have to wonder - did they guy "half move out" and was dragging his feet, as is so common with non-payers? Could that be why she removed his stuff?
NEVER argue with a res. No need to and it does not help a thing.
Do everything in writing, at least by text. If he says he'll be out tomorrow you can defend tomorrow's actions.
Arguers LOVE to send inflammatory texts! which turn out to be good evidence for the LL!