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Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 14, 2022 9:04 PM
       Any justice? (by melinda [MD]) Jan 14, 2022 9:08 PM
       Any justice? (by Ken [NY]) Jan 14, 2022 9:40 PM
       Any justice? (by LordZen [MA]) Jan 14, 2022 10:26 PM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 14, 2022 10:32 PM
       Any justice? (by Ken [NY]) Jan 14, 2022 11:13 PM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 14, 2022 11:15 PM
       Any justice? (by Ken [NY]) Jan 15, 2022 12:51 AM
       Any justice? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jan 15, 2022 1:02 AM
       Any justice? (by P. B. [MI]) Jan 15, 2022 2:47 AM
       Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 15, 2022 3:23 AM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 15, 2022 5:27 AM
       Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 15, 2022 9:19 AM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 15, 2022 9:28 AM
       Any justice? (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 15, 2022 9:57 AM
       Any justice? (by Ken [NY]) Jan 15, 2022 10:18 AM
       Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 15, 2022 10:28 AM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 15, 2022 10:42 AM
       Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 15, 2022 2:55 PM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 15, 2022 3:00 PM
       Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 15, 2022 3:20 PM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 15, 2022 3:34 PM
       Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 15, 2022 3:51 PM
       Any justice? (by plenty [MO]) Jan 15, 2022 4:12 PM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 15, 2022 4:28 PM
       Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 15, 2022 5:07 PM
       Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Jan 15, 2022 5:16 PM
       Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Jan 15, 2022 6:18 PM

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Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 9:04 PM
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So I wonder if there's any justice? I have three tenants that have taken advantage of the COVIT no pay, no eviction. It's been extended as the courts not taking any cases. So all these three tenants are also my worst pita people which I would be very glad to get rid of. They all want to stay, so they have appealed to RAFT which has their rents for over a year.

Now, all these tenants have jobs that are more than adequate to pay their rent. So how does RAFT end up paying over $20,000 each for these people? Yeah, I should be glad that I'm getting my money finally. But who really is paying for the over $60,000? Of course the taxpayer really does, which I'm one and so are you!

These people are getting away with murder. I have written to RAFT about this three times with no response. It seems like they would rather not get involved with dealing with fraud. My understanding is the tenants had to state that they didn't have the money to pay their back rent.. I know from talking to people who know them and their neighbors that they have purchased many expensive things with their extra savings from not paying rent.

Have you ever run into this? Is there anybody that one should alert to? We are in the process of evicting these RAFT rats as again they have been very troublesome besides. But I don't think society should be paying for their back rent. --66.30.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 9:08 PM
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I have been wondering about this myself. Have also posted about it. Response was----why worry as long as I got paid.

Anyway. I asked one of the recipients of this FREE MOLA and she said that they did not ask for any sort of proof of anything---income, proof of not being able to pay etc. Sad in my opinion. Tax payers getting ------ ed again. --24.233.xxx.xx




Any justice? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 9:40 PM
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The justice is that with there poor mentality they will never have anything,maybe a big tv but not real assets with a comfortable living and retirement --72.231.xxx.xxx




Any justice? (by LordZen [MA]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 10:26 PM
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Not even the people from Unsolved Mysteries had an answer for that, this is so sad :( . But you know, sometimes the government let you think that you got away with murder or that you committed the perfect crime, but eventually they will pull the rope and people will have to pay for every penny. --98.216.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 10:32 PM
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If the tenant rides the Convid freebie train, when does it become the landlords fault for not getting them out? A month, 6 months? A year? 2 years? Id bet any money that there are some yahoo landlords out there going on the 2nd and soon STARTING THEIR 3RD year with no rent. --24.152.xxx.xx




Any justice? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 11:13 PM
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NE,I have an appointment with a lady to look at a house with a non paying tenant for a year and a half.She says she lived there for years and always paid but she honestly believes she doesnt have to pay rent because the governor said she doesnt have to,says tenant will let us in no problem.I will have her sign the rights to back rent over to me and i will squeeze hard or maybe get the back rent paid by the state --72.231.xxx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 11:15 PM
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Ken, you will have the money or the tenant out a lot faster than the seller. --24.152.xxx.xx




Any justice? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 12:51 AM
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NE,I bought a house at city auction one time for $1100.00 and got the city attorney to sign over 3 months back rent to me,gave her an eviction notice the day i bought it,a week later the county welfare office paid me $600 x 3 months total of $1800 to let her stay.Tax dollars at work there --72.231.xxx.xxx




Any justice? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 1:02 AM
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Here the federal government when they fill a tax return they are taking back the money where they did not qualify. So what what happens at return time if the government in the Us maybe the same. Like everywhere the Canada Revenue Agency has the ability to go after those people. More then likely a lot people are going to be in for shock as they cheated the system where last year a lot of them had to pay back so this year there is unlikely to be any change. If they work some place they can not hide income. Only a small percentage needed some help for a short period of time say a few months. Now many places are looking for workers as the generous UI benefits is discouraging people from seeking employment. This free for all needs to come to end as this is causing major problems for the economy. People employed pay provincial and federal income tax. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Any justice? (by P. B. [MI]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 2:47 AM
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No, there is no justice now and more than likely never will be.

I was discussing this issue with one of our social workers and her response was, "It is because of the low life people we serve that I and other social workers have jobs." "We don't want to know if they break the Lease or buy extra items with their pay checks, etc. because if we turn them in, our jobs are no longer needed."

It is this attitude that LL's come up against, often.

Our governments systems are so messed up that things will not change for the better. It is certainly a sad state of affairs, in a LL's view, but others look at it a lot different. It is called job security to ignore the obvious. --67.22.x.x




Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 3:23 AM
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From NE[PA]

"If the tenant rides the Convid freebie train, when does it become the landlords fault for not getting them out? A month, 6 months? A year? 2 years? Id bet any money that there are some yahoo landlords out there going on the 2nd and soon STARTING THEIR 3RD year with no rent."

OK, So how would you get them out? --66.30.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 5:27 AM
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Doug, it depends on your situation. Exploit the pressure points. Either you get it or you donít. --24.152.xxx.xx




Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 9:19 AM
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OK well thats pretty vague, so what have you done as examples in the past? Please be specific, as I have no idea what I can/could do without getting me into trouble with laws.What have you done?

--66.30.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 9:28 AM
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I havenít had these troubles. Iíve provided help to others. If I was in your position,ĎI wouldnít be in it as long as you have been though. You really really really have to think outside the box. Every time we bump into these problems on this forum, everybodyís like NE, be specific! I canít. I donít know you, your building, or your tenants. Some things in this business canít be posted on a public forum. Use your brain & figure it out. take control of your unit and your business. Big daddy government does not give two shyts about you, brother! --24.152.xxx.xx




Any justice? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 9:57 AM
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melinda's reply:

"I have been wondering about this myself. Have also posted about it. Response was----why worry as long as I got paid."

P.B.'s reply:

"I was discussing this issue with one of our social workers and her response was, "It is because of the low life people we serve that I and other social workers have jobs." "We don't want to know if they break the Lease or buy extra items with their pay checks, etc. because if we turn them in, our jobs are no longer needed.""

...." It is called job security to ignore the obvious"..

These appear to be one in the same to me. --73.120.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 10:18 AM
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Doug,I have been known to turn down or turn off water heaters,that forces them to call me,noone equates me being in the basement yesterday with no hot water today.I knock on the tenants door and ask for my rent every day,walk the property every day just to be there.Most dirtbags cant this kind of pressure and will leave.You have to be nice so if they call the cops they have no legitimate complaints. --72.231.xxx.xxx




Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 10:28 AM
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Hi Ken.

Well, In two cases I turned down their water heaters to warm,(the tenants didn't see me going into the basement) they didn't call me. They called the code enforcer and the Board of Health that said they were going to set a daily heavy fine if not fixed right away.

You really can't say "I ainta gonna pay!" as they hold all the cards,.

I don't see any options to force them out without getting into a lot of trouble. --66.30.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 10:42 AM
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What would it take to get the Board of Health to condemn the building? For habitability. --174.249.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 2:55 PM
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"What would it take to get the Board of Health to condemn the building? For habitability."

Huh?

Don't understand how this applies or helps. --66.30.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 3:00 PM
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You have to get creative Doug. --24.152.xxx.xx




Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 3:20 PM
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Yeah,..well again, (in the old days we would say "that and a dime would buy you a cup of coffee"...... Yeah it was an old saying even then. --66.30.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 3:34 PM
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Well Doug, if you canít figure it out, I buy houses. --24.152.xxx.xx




Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 3:51 PM
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You know,..I'm beginning to doubt that too.

But good luck to ya, (and anyone that follows your advice)

--66.30.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 4:12 PM
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I'm reading that a squeeze play could be the answer. Let them get themselves out by reporting you. If you were big game hunting in Africa and got the "no hot water or we'll call the code dude" could one just let the code dude tell them they have to move cause they can't live here cause you are half way around the world with no cell service? --172.58.xxx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 4:28 PM
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Plenty gets it. --174.249.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 5:07 PM
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Plenty

I get that, it might work in other areas, but here the code people and the board of health will say must have a service person testify that it can't be rectified. If it can, then fix it so the "poor tent/s " don't have to move, Things like no hot water, low water pressure,no heat etc. are all fixable. So it doesn't work here,

Also, there are ten other units in this building,hard to tell code/BOH people that you can't fix one.

I have 23 properties, some I have had for nearly 30 years, so I'm used to problem-solving. These are not easy under current conditions --66.30.xx.xxx




Any justice? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 5:16 PM
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How long does it take to get a court date? --24.152.xxx.xx




Any justice? (by Doug [MA]) Posted on: Jan 15, 2022 6:18 PM
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Trying for over a month, still waiting, using the best eviction lawyer in the area according to our landlord assoc.

He is also frustrated as he has a number of others he is waiting for. --66.30.xx.xxx



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