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Paint issues (by Lana [IN]) Jan 14, 2022 3:56 PM
       Paint issues (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 14, 2022 4:14 PM
       Paint issues (by Roy [AL]) Jan 14, 2022 5:40 PM
       Paint issues (by DJ [VA]) Jan 14, 2022 6:16 PM
       Paint issues (by Lana [IN]) Jan 14, 2022 6:24 PM
       Paint issues (by Richard [MI]) Jan 14, 2022 6:43 PM
       Paint issues (by Jim in O C [CA]) Jan 14, 2022 7:06 PM
       Paint issues (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jan 14, 2022 8:23 PM
       Paint issues (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 14, 2022 8:27 PM
       Paint issues (by Bartman [ID]) Jan 14, 2022 9:44 PM

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Paint issues (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 3:56 PM

Well I am stumped. I just got a 3BR, 1 1/2 bath SFH back after 13 years. Its clean and empty and I am still in sell mode. I got 13 years of excellent tenants, no turnovers, good market rents. Real estate is so hot now that I am getting about 8-10 years worth of rents back on sales, so it makes sense to me to sell as I want to be fully retired in next 5 years.

So after 13 years, do I sell ASAP or do I spiff the place and sell higher? I really love fixing up and remodeling, but does it make financial sense? I am doing some necessary repairs like ripping out a wall damaged by water before roof was replaced. But, how far do I go? Old houses are endless.

I decided that since wall was being repaired and I should paint it, that I would paint the house. Ceiling, woodwork, cabinets and walls. Well, it ain't going to work. We have painted before, but someone put a fabric or paper over every wall and the ceiling many years before I bought house. They must have done it to cover old wallpaper so they could paint. It was a problem only once when I wanted my hubby to paint a popcorn ceiling in a bedroom. The paint went on, but the weight of the wet paint pulled the fabric off the ceiling and we had a mess.

Well in places the fabric is separating and when we try to paint ceilings it is separating. We were going to do ceilings then walls. We tried a wall section too and the fabric separated leaving a bright ancient wall paper behind.

This is just much more than I ever wanted to do. I guess whatever glue they used is dissolved by time and paint and we would have to strip layers of stuff to proceed. What would you do?

Paint issues (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 4:14 PM

Use oil base primer. It sounds like the glue on the paper is water based.

Paint issues (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 5:40 PM

Ys, I would paint if nothing else. Paint always gives the biggest bang for your buck when selling or renting a house.

Paint issues (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 6:16 PM

I'm thinking the same as 6x6. It's at least worth a try in one area to see ho it works.

Paint issues (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 6:24 PM

Thanks. I agree Roy, paint at least as I should get cost back. Just thought it would be easier. Wonder WHY they put the stuff on the ceilings. It's like a narrow wallpaper and the edges are overlapped.

Paint issues (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 6:43 PM

Use a product called Guardz to bind/bond the stuff together. It's made for that. Sherwin Williams carries it I think and Menard's. Most likely all the big places. --75.7.xx.xx

Paint issues (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 7:06 PM

The way the demand is you can probably sell without doing hardly any work.

Paint issues (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 8:23 PM

With more severe weather events consider installing metal seamless roof which is going to stand up when winds are high. Painting is cosmetic where if have a good air less paint sprayer the interior can be painted in a short period of time. If have 100 per cent equity then if rent levels are good then look at keeping. After a few years if interest rates go up then may get less but the amount of rent will compensate for that. Most areas very few new houses are being built. Found the shingles are really a poor option where at the house where steel roof was installed in 2004 the house next door has gone through three shingle roofs. At that time paid $5,000 Cdn which included the 7 per cent tax. Now it may cost more then double or more where over time the roof that longest will pay off. In town the roofers will not install a steel roof as they want repeat business. A roof that can last 30 years or more they do not want. Go to a building supply store where they do not want to sell steel roofs as the landfill option is better for them. Shingles can not be recycled where the landfill.

Paint issues (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 8:27 PM

I was invited to a painting party. A good friend needed to paint his recently vacant home. There were 7 of us in total. So I decided to take the master bedroom, and I'd it myself.

I noticed the popcorn ceiling was a mix of water based products. Because it was yellow, I needed to apply an oil based primer so the water based products wouldn't activate with a water based glue. So before I began I had a talk with the owner of the house and advised him of the issues with the kitchen wall paper and the popcorn ceiling -- all used a water based glue.

I finished painting the room in 2 hours. Walls 1 color, wood trim another and the ceiling pure white. I put a water based acrylic paint over the oil base fast drying primer.

After I left everyone who tried to prime or paint the popcorn ceilings in all of the other rooms, had ceiling texturing all over the floors. This was around 38 years ago.

Paint issues (by Bartman [ID]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 9:44 PM

I own a 10 plex that was built by the Navy in the 40's. It has lots of layers of wallpaper. A tenant put holes in the walls. I hate hanging wallpaper. I tried to peal the wallpaper off. What I nightmare!!! Steam didn't work. Some came off easy and some in chunks 1, 2, 3 layers deep and some had to be chilled off. There was at least 4 layers. I think the Navy used experimental glue when they built the place.

So I went to YouTube. I found a video that used a primer sold by Home Depot call Pro-999. It works for torn drywall, wallpaper, etc.

I painted it on then used drywall mud to smooth out the holes. I did a so-so job. Then sprayed the crap out of it with my pneumatic texture gun. I didn't mask anything off. Just had a wet rag to wipe off any over spray. It would have helped a lot to have a helper do the wiping.

Painted and looks great.

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