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OT: Broke In-Laws (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 8:31 AM
My father died in 2015. 6 months after his death, his 4th wife had to declare bankruptcy and since then has lived a 'hand to mouth' existence on social security benefits. My Dad's 4th wife died 2 days ago and has a surviving daughter who is also broke and can not even pay for her own Mother's funeral.
The surviving daughter is someone I know well from past family reunions but that was only while my Dad alive. However, after my Dad's death, I did not feel any emotional connection to continue being social with my Dad's 4th set of 'in-laws'. (I have no blood relationship with any of them). The surviving daughter, who has made poor financial choices in life, is now faced with funeral expenses which she does not the money to pay for nor any assets to borrow against.
Just out of respect for my deceased father, I am considering writing a large check to help pay for this funeral. I have 3 brothers who think I am a complete fool for doing this and my doing so will only re-open a can of worms that was first opened when my Dad married her mother in 2001.
Big Decision here: Should I write the check or not? Also, how does anyone get buried (or cremated) when surviving relatives are destitute? --71.207.xxx.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 8:36 AM
Roy, I mean no disrespect here but you continue to ask us things that only Roy can answer. From vaccine requirements to personal decisions. Let your conscious be your guide. --50.202.xxx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 8:42 AM
Yes. If you can afford to. Your dad loved this woman. He (your dad) would have paid. It's respect.
You'll sleep better. --172.58.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 8:47 AM
Do it anonymously to the funeral home. That way you can help and no one will know who helped. If you feel so inclined. --24.152.xxx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 8:49 AM
I would offer to pay for cremenation costs. It's cheap(er).
Let's your step sister do what she wants with the ashes. --72.73.xx.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 9:04 AM
A former grunt laborer of mine-- I don't think I've used him since 2018-- died of Covid in jail. The family had just lost his niece a month or two earlier. They were chronically low on cash-- lots of very poor life decisions-- but having two funerals so close together was even more taxing for them.
I went to the funeral home and asked how much X owed on his account. They told me how much the family had deposited, and how much was remaining. I gave a check to the funeral home to go towards his expenses-- there was no way I was going to entrust it directly to the family.
About two weeks later, I followed up to see how things had worked out. His church had taken up a collection to cover expenses as well, and between everyone, and the fact that the funeral home gave a discount/went with the cheapest options/the family cut out some extras, the family had $15 extra that went back to them. --137.118.xx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 9:04 AM
All good answers above.
What we did for my sister who died a pauper: a brother who has a great house for hosting our very large tribe hel a get-together. Everyone brought a dish to pass, we ate. Then another brother passed out those little red plastic shot glasses, and a bottle of good whiskey was passed. Before we drank, each of us said something. Then, a couple of the family members read prayers, passages of the bible or poetry. Then we sang a few songs. I know the evening went on longer, but, my family had to get up very early the next day.
Basically no cost, other than food for a get-together. We all brought any pictures that were placed on the piano, just like those photo boards people do for funerals now.
The only thing was our sister's friends weren't invited. And pretty much all of them wouldn't have shown up to a family member's home like they maybe would if it was in a public place. There wasn't an obituary notice in the paper for it either. And, truthfully, most of her friends had moved on, in one way or another. Might not have had more than one or two show up at a funeral home.
I think, as landlords, we all get pretty good at saying yes to a plea or request from our tenants, when appropriate, and then saying no firmly after . So, I wouldn't be so very worried about the in-laws future requests. --70.92.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 9:05 AM
I posted this so that I can get some opinions/advice from people who are not related to me. I am sure many here have to deal with in-laws from time to time. What complicates this situation even more, is my Dad made some changes to his Will in the last 5 years of his life. My brothers and I and the surviving daughter are now listed as beneficiaries on my Dad's Will. And my Dad died with more unpaid debts than assets. --71.207.xxx.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 9:38 AM
Has the daughter considered cremation as opposed to a funeral.
When Bill became ill with lung cancer (and we were not married but had been together for almost 20 years) we had briefly discussed cremation versus funerals but, as usual, he left everything up to me. He passed away very quickly after his diagnosis and no family member stepped up to offer suggestions or assistance.
It was a little difficult for me to get "permission" locally to cremate him; the idea being since we were not related by blood or marriage I might have killed the guy and by cremating him, destroying the evidence. In other words I could bury him but not cremate him. The funeral home helped me get over that nonsense.
I had him cremated and have spread his ashes up in the mountains of South Carolina where he camped, kayaked, did hang gliding as a teenager.
Afterwards I went to the funeral home and prepaid for my cremation when I pass away.
I did find that locally if family members are financially unable to pay for a funeral or cremation (or there are no family members to contact) the Coroner's Office will, eventually, bury this person in what is locally called "Potters Field"; no service and no headstone; just a small marker to keep track of who is buried there.
OT: Broke In-Laws (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 9:48 AM
NE, ya stole my thunder, again. (Good answer)
A person could go bald (scratching head)wondering
what a persons (true) motives and intentions are.
OT: Broke In-Laws (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 9:53 AM
I wouldn’t ever consider involving myself in that.
The person is dead. They’re not going to care. When I decide to be charitable it’s to help people who are living. Not to support a business that makes a profit off of dead people. --24.96.xx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:05 AM
My Dad's only fault was that he could never say 'NO, we can't afford that' to any woman he was married to. If a wife (#2, #3 & #4) wanted a new car, new furniture or whatever, and if the dealer was willing to finance it, my Dad would sign the papers and make monthly payments. According to my Dad's warped sense of logic,..it all revolved around 'keeping peace in the family'. In the last 2 years of my Dad's life, he went on a spending spree buying things on credit that was shocking ($16,000 pontoon boat) and this led his 4th wife to declare bankruptcy not long as his death. --71.207.xxx.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:05 AM
A funeral doesn't have to be expensive (some examples above.) No, I would NOT write a "large check."
My FIL (who COULD afford a funeral) disliked the costs associated with them, and donated his body to science. The only cost to us was $30 to get his ashes returned later - which really, by the time we got them, now what? So they sit in the bookcase in a plastic box. My MIL's ashes had long disappeared - my FIL lost them during a move, or he scattered them and didn't tell us where. It was okay.
BTW, we paid more than that to have our DOG cremated and returned (what a racket! HER box is a lovely carved wooden thing.) Sits in the bookcase just like him.
I want my body to be donated - I HOPE to go to the Body Farm in Tennessee but I don't think you can choose. --50.82.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Larry [MN]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:08 AM
I'll also write in support of paying only for cremation. It's ridiculous for broke people to pay for a full embalming, dressing, casket, vault, plot, etc. It can be a difference of $12,000 vs $2,000.
If your dad was a veteran she may be eligible to be buried in a national cemetery for free (cremated or not). --68.46.xx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Mick [CA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:09 AM
@Roy, your heart is in the right place, but I would not do it. You don’t appear to have a relationship with that side of the family.
Cremation would be a better option since cash is an issue.
Kinda funny: The father of one of my tenants died & he was cremated. The family held the “reception” in the parking lot of the chapel. Several family member had trucks. They lowered the tail gates and put food/drinks on them. --184.176.xx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:17 AM
I’m with N.E., remain Anonymous and write the check to the funeral home.
A cremation last month in my area cost $1100.
If it makes you feel better go for it. --174.202.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:20 AM
I have never had the opportunity yet to negotiate funeral expenses with a funeral home. My Dad got cremated and that cost around $6,000 in 2015. I did not pay for that since my Dad had a final expense insurance policy. My Dad loved insurance polices and he had several of them that he could borrow money against. --71.207.xxx.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:29 AM
I have no right or invitation here to decide what type of funeral (cremation or burial) that my father's 4th wife should get due to their lack of funds. I would assume it will be cremation since that is how my father's was done. I am not going to pay the entire cost either, just a portion that is reasonable. --71.207.xxx.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:32 AM
do it. don't be counting on any thank you. Move forward. --99.103.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Sparky [PA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:44 AM
A lavish funeral is another poor financial choice for the daughter. When my father died, I remember the undertakekr telling us that funerals are for the living. If you would be taking on the funeral expense, you are doing it for the deceased's legatees. The deceased should be cremated, as that is the most appropriate disposition of her body for her station in life. --73.40.xxx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:54 AM
Our sister was cremated as well. Hadn't thought about donating to science. That's a great idea.
Being a long-time gardener and composter, my kids know where my ashes should go- In the compost heap!
These conversations are good for all of us. How many of us have gotten new ideas, or more estate planning done just because one of our fellows needed some ideas/ thoughts/ opinions/ commeraderie.... ? --70.92.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:57 AM
I would not have anything to do with paying for it,it doesnt even sound like you like them or hang out with them.Have they invited you to family get togethers since your dad passed?I dont get involved in helping people who have created there own financial problems --72.231.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 10:58 AM
Oh Busy, the compost pile is a great idea. Except the kids might want to let the garden go fallow for a year before eating the tomatoes :-/. I wouldn’t mind the same as WMH with the body farm. Preferably I could be tossed in the wilderness for the coyotes and crows to eat. --24.152.xxx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 11:11 AM
Myself, I wouldn't.
Broke people who can't afford funerals really should not be having funerals.
Does The Neptune Society still exist? They did a cheap cremation. However, it isn't your place to decide what sort of funeral the stepmother gets. Just that you will or won't pay for it. --76.178.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by P. B. [MI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 11:16 AM
I mean no disrespect, but I would not offer any financial help.
When your Dad passed away did your in laws offer your step Mother, you or your family financial help?
I know you have the utmost respect for your Father, but this is not your problem nor your responsibility.
I would listen to your brothers advice and leave the can of worms alone.
The in laws are broke for a reason and I feel your contribution would not be appreciated.
I am sorry for your emotional struggle. --67.22.x.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 11:29 AM
In your case with all of the family members that were blood or related by marriage to your dad, why are you the one to come to the rescue? DO NOT GIVE A CHECK TO YOUR STEP SISTER! She could gamble it all away in a few bets. You said she was not good with money. If you wish to help out, have them put you in touch with the funeral home and make direct payments. --47.155.xx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 11:30 AM
And, just to be sure, it is illegal to just spread ashes wherever. So, readers, I'm not advising that. We just jest about that in my house! My husband wants whichever of us to go first to be cremated, then the ashes saved till the other goes, so our ashes can be combined.
I thought that was a good idea, until recently. We downsized from extended queen size bed to a queen. He still was taking the same space as before, until i made a fuss. If we 're combined in a box, he'll take sixty-five percent of the space, cuz he can! Lol! No, instill want our ashes combined.
Im thinking our son would put us on the very bottom of the compost heap, then not turn it for years! And our daughter doesn't turn her heap too often anyway.
NE, Some tomatoes seem to have faces.... whooo..ooo.oo
Back to Roy. A quote for you:
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right- for you'll be criticized anyway." ~ Franklin Roosevelt --70.92.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 11:41 AM
I guess it was Frankie Roosevelt who said "No Good Deed goes Unpunished". There is a memorial service on Friday night. I will take the checkbook but will decide at that time what my gut is telling me.
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 12:09 PM
Mick said, "The family held the “reception” in the parking lot of the chapel. Several family member had trucks. They lowered the tail gates and put food/drinks on them."
That is a classic AL redneck funeral. They probably all got drunk or stoned that night too.
As an after thought, I feel sure taxpayers are on the hook to pay for someone else funeral. Broke and destitute people die everyday and funeral homes are not in business to absorb the cost of anyone's funeral. Cradle to the Grave entitlement benefits here. --71.207.xxx.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 12:43 PM
I was subbing at the high school one day, and was flipping through their bookshelf during a free period. One of the essays included was Jennifer Mitford's "Behind the Formaldehyde Curtain." Yeah, it was written in 1967-- which is now over 50 years ago-- but it helped me be able to recognize things that I take for granted, but don't necessarily have to be the case. And when people around me pass away, I'm able to pick up on techniques that the funeral home people make use of in their interactions with the decision-makers that I totally wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't read it.
It's very useful to have read, whether you're setting things in place for yourself, or for someone else. And it's a very short read. --137.118.xx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 12:54 PM
He gave you life and will watch out for you from the other side. I would pay for the funeral. My dad saved my life in 2010 even though he died in 1990 by telling me to go in the house on a windy day when a tree came down where I was standing and crushed the bird feeder I was about to fill. Cremation does not cost much and probably would not be a problem to him. You pay. You get the urn. Get an urn. Relationships between men and women, mothers and fathers are so difficult sometimes that he probably does not have any blame to carry for the split. It's how he treated you afterward that matters. It's a loving gesture to him as he will be seeing the pain that his death created. --108.24.xx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 1:01 PM
Pain that "this" death caused, not "his" death. --108.24.xx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 1:10 PM
Deanna, I really like watching a good salesman work,i might get a new technique but in general watching anyone at the top of there craft work is interesting --72.231.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 1:17 PM
Ken, it was interesting, because they were asking permission and authorization to do x, y, and z, but they were phrasing it in a way that conveyed, "Of course this is going to happen-- right?" And my parents automatically gave authorization for x, y, and z without thinking, "Oh, wait, this is optional" or taking the time to ask, "Well, how much does it cost, and what are the alternatives?"
I didn't get involved in the moment, because it wasn't my place. But it did give me the confidence to tell DH, "Hey, when I pass, I don't need x, y, and z. Q is perfectly fine for me" and he thinks about it for a moment and agrees, "Yeah, I think I'm good with Q as well", even if Q isn't the normal default for our culture. --137.118.xx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 2:36 PM
Random House publishing, Dec 1983, The American Way of Death, by Jessica Mitford. Same book, revisited edition, published in 2011. Available on used booksellers and for Kindle.
Sounds like a good read. My husband and I have already said we want cremation and an in-house get-together. But, have we made plans, written that down, gotten our estate plans done ? Nope ! Sheesh! --70.92.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 3:51 PM
Roy, this is a raw subject with me lately and I would say don't pay for it. However, I think some part of you wants to and that's okay too.
The $6000 cremation for your dad was probably everything - cremation, service, limo, flowers, obituary, etc. If I were to do something in a situation like this, I'd pay for the actual cremation and allow her daughter to figure out the 'funeral' portion.
Here, the last time I checked, the actual cremation portion was just under $1000. --98.237.xxx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 4:20 PM
My Dad's cremation bill was high only because he had a final expense insurance policy that covered it. Funeral home owners love people when an insurance company is on the hook for the tab. The funeral business is a racket. They sell products and services to people when they are emotionally drained and vulnerable. --71.207.xxx.x
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 4:47 PM
My In-Laws have put a bit of cash in a separate account that hubby is on, to cover their final costs. They looked into what was what, and decided to have their bodies cremated and then told us to do whatever with the cremains.
We've told our kids to cremate out bodies, then use our life insurance to have the cremains interred in a coral reef, then go on a cruise a raise a glass to Mom and Dad. If they would rather, they can arrange with the cruise line to throw the cremains overboard (many of the cruise lines will do this, and provide a certificate, arrangements need to be made in advance.)
Costs of cremation shold be under $1500 including an urn. That does NOT include a funeral, just cremating the actual body.
I'd be willing to help with that, nothing else. The check would go directly to the crematorium. --149.76.xxx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 7:03 PM
Roy, it sounds like you really have no connection at all with the deceased, emotional or blood. Go to her service, but I’d suggest not paying for it.
If you want to, use the money you would have given to the funeral home to fund a charity in your father’s name that you think he would have liked. For example his local church (if he attended) a scholarship to a student from his high school, a soup kitchen in his hometown,etc. Take your time, be thoughtful. The right idea will come to you. --98.13.xx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Facetious [NE]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 8:59 PM
She was married to your father for 20 years? I would pay the funeral home directly. I would personally sleep better at night. --68.226.xx.xx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Tex [TX]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 10:06 AM
I beleive I would write the chks. Regardless of the outcome the lady cared for your Dad.
Youll be fine.
OT: Broke In-Laws (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 11:13 AM
I see advice has run the gamut. My thought is since you view this as paying tribute to your father, then it really doesn't matter what the broke in-laws or anyone else thinks. You can give as much or as little as you like. All, some, or none.
The only cautions would be:
1) Money goes directly to the funeral provider, not the broke in-laws.
2) Be abundantly clear that this is a "one shot" event and has nothing to do with them. When people smell money, they start actin' funny. "Uncle-in-law thrice removed" Roy is not some endless pile of welfare.
In my area, as with many others, there are public funeral arrangements for the indigent. In the end, all our bodies end up worm food, and has many here have said my personal preference is to donate as much of my body for organ transplants as will be useful, then the remainder to science, and if there's anything left over after that just cremate it and scatter or put in a jar.
Personally, I'm going to be resting in my Lord Jesus Christ and won't care what the earthy folks do or do not do. My hope is in him alone, and I will have left the cares and concerns of this world behind.
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 14, 2022 2:26 PM
I had a broke cousin pass last week. She was only 49. Heart attack. I wrote a $500 check directly to the funeral home as I know they were going to take a beating on this service. I didn't want to my surviving cousin to carry it all on his shoulders either.
Do I typically write put $500 checks as a departing gift. Nope. But it is only money and I know he could use an anonymous shot in the arm.
Follow your heart --24.101.xxx.xxx
OT: Broke In-Laws (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Jan 16, 2022 12:20 PM
Write a check for his fourth wife's funeral that her own daughter cannot afford?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ho ho ho ho ho ha ha ha hee hee hee hee ha ha ha ha!
Get some professional counseling cuz I can't laugh this hard too much longer. --184.57.xxx.xx
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