Philly fire of 13 cause (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 12, 2022 11:39 PM|
Philly fire of 13 cause (by don [PA]) Jan 12, 2022 11:59 PM
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Busy [WI]) Jan 13, 2022 9:49 AM
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jan 13, 2022 11:43 AM
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Wilma [PA]) Jan 13, 2022 3:00 PM
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 13, 2022 3:05 PM
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jan 13, 2022 6:04 PM
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Pat [VA]) Jan 13, 2022 6:18 PM
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Still Learning [NH]) Jan 13, 2022 8:14 PM
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Philly fire of 13 cause (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 12, 2022 11:39 PM
That fire in Philly that killed 13?
Today’s news: Fire chief is interviewing a five year old child who indicates someone was playing with a lighter which ignited a Christmas tree.
Small lesson: hide lighters and matches cuz they are FUN!
Philly fire of 13 cause (by don [PA]) Posted on: Jan 12, 2022 11:59 PM
Yeah, everyone in Philly is looking for someone to blame for this, other than the victims. The Fire Dept. last May had installed 7 smoke detectors for free with 10 year lithium batteries throughout the place. All but one had been disabled by the residents. Many were in a kitchen drawer. One was on the wall, but with its battery removed. The only one unmolested was in the basement, and that going off probably woke up the people on the first floor, who got out. --73.141.xxx.xxx
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 9:49 AM
In my Two Minute Home Inspection, the thing I MOST look for is carelessness with firestarters, candles, incense sticks, especially if there are children. As has been discussed on this forum, applicants will have candles and incense sticks lit to cover certain smells. I mostly don't care of what they partake, so long as they safe about it.
When we were fairly young kids, we learned from older siblings how to light matches to start our burning barrel ( that was garbage collection out on the farm) or to start small campfires for roasting hot dogs, a summertime treat. Because the older kids were teaching, they taught safety, as they had been taught. --70.92.xxx.xxx
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 11:43 AM
I taught fire safety to my child and he was allowed to start as many fires as he wanted, in a safe controlled manner. However, I would never count on my tenants to do the same.
I'm not convinced that the majority of tenants teach their children anything at all, just let them run wild and destructive. --76.178.xxx.xxx
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 3:00 PM
My dad was a volunteer firefighter, and careful to teach us kids about fire safety. I still remember the spanking that I got as a 5-year-old when he found me messing around with matches and paper in the basement (oh, I knew better)!
I've only had one tenant who ever messed around with the smoke detectors. Ironically, he was a Navy jet electrician who also would put extension cords under throw rugs and runners. *Shudder* --98.115.xxx.xxx
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 3:05 PM
If only tenants felt paying rent was fun. --24.101.xxx.xxx
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 6:04 PM
Multi-residential schools and commercial buildings a central fire panel is the norm where using battery operated smoke alarms is only suitable for a single family house. Heat sensors would be the rental suites where once the temperature went high the central fire alarms would go off. A central fire panel heat sensors are connected to a end of line resister where if tampered with the fault light would go off on the central fire panel. In the suites there would be wired smoke alarm with battery back up where if the green light is on then ok. While tragic fires are rare no one wants a loss of life where having self closing door closures keeps the rest of building from filling up with smoke. Never accepted that the fire department would pass the apartment with smoke alarms in the hallway where bought a ten zone fire panel, smoke alarms, pull stations, bell, heat sensors then roughed in everything where had a fire alarm technician wire up then test system. When put carriage bolts in front load washing machines so the tenants would have put coins instead of starting washing machine they deliberately set on fire the double stacked commercial clothes dryer where the fire alarm went off before the sprinklers above opened up. Not only the fire alarm but self closures on all suite doors, separations in hallways to stair well with self closures, wired smoke alarms with battery back up in suites, emergency lights in hallways, new stand pipe hoses and cabinets so fire extinguishers could not stolen. The clothes dryers was beyond repair where no further damage other cleaning and painting ceiling. For the apartment buildings installing better fire protection was the most important investment made. Across the road there is house with three illegal apartments where no egress from basement apartments. If any thing happens the insurance company will not cover. Fires happen mainly as fault of careless tenants where no can prevent that from happening only counting on the safety equipment to work. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 6:18 PM
Each time I hear of a family looking for a home because theirs burned down, I cringe! The 1st thing that enters my mind is why would I want you to burn down mine? Now I know there are times when it isn't their fault, but that's just the way I am wired.
Same with somebody looking for a new pet. If they say "Mine got run over by a car!", I smh. So, you want another one to not take proper care of? --47.133.xxx.xxx
Philly fire of 13 cause (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jan 13, 2022 8:14 PM
Pat, maybe our housing stock is older in our area, but 3 out of 4 fires in our town over the last 20 years involving families were electrical in nature, not any fault of the families (mine being one of them). The 4th was a father that went off the deep end, drugs were involved and luckily the wife had already taken the kids and moved out. So 3 out of 4 were not set by family members. --75.67.xxx.xxx
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