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1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Jan 10, 2022 10:40 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 10:42 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by plenty [MO]) Jan 10, 2022 10:47 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 10:49 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by Homer [TX]) Jan 10, 2022 10:57 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by JAC [OH]) Jan 10, 2022 10:57 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 10:59 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by Ken [NY]) Jan 10, 2022 11:05 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Jan 10, 2022 11:32 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 12:39 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by RB [TN]) Jan 10, 2022 12:42 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 1:15 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Jan 10, 2022 1:33 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 10, 2022 1:55 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 2:09 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by plenty [MO]) Jan 10, 2022 3:05 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 3:06 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Jan 10, 2022 3:22 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 10, 2022 3:50 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by Busy [WI]) Jan 10, 2022 4:25 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by Plenty [MO]) Jan 10, 2022 4:27 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 4:37 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by 6x6 [TN]) Jan 10, 2022 4:52 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by Ken [NY]) Jan 10, 2022 5:09 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by Homer [TX]) Jan 10, 2022 5:32 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 5:49 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by plenty [MO]) Jan 10, 2022 5:51 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 10, 2022 6:27 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by Ken [NY]) Jan 10, 2022 6:40 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Jan 11, 2022 8:21 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by plenty [MO]) Jan 11, 2022 8:30 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Jan 11, 2022 8:38 AM
       1 HR waterheater (by Wilma [PA]) Jan 11, 2022 3:55 PM
       1 HR waterheater (by gevans [SC]) Jan 11, 2022 6:54 PM

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1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 10:40 AM
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Got a call Friday-- bad water heater. Swapped out Saturday in less than 1 hour.

My MM went and connected hose to drain heater while I went to H-depot for new unit. Same brand and size. There were already steel braided hoses on the w/heater.

By the time I got to the house- tank was empty- gas was off unit- including the T and condensation extension for gas valve. Rolled it out- rolled in new one.

As MM was connecting new unit packed up tools and loaded old water heater for metal dump near bye.

Started at 943am -- finished 10:30am and walking out the door.

Done and Done.

To be fair: it was right in the front door in a closet that had all the room needed to work. Not a bunch of trash around so very easy to work it.

--99.103.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 10:42 AM
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Aces. Some landlords are still waiting to get a bid. --24.152.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 10:47 AM
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Can't do that in my in area . Must pull permits.. but once upon a time. Impressive install. Rent On. --172.58.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 10:49 AM
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Plenty, canít break the speed limit either. Hot water goes out on a Friday night. Monday is a holiday. Tuesday, permit guy is out sick. Wednesday and Thursday to do the work and get reinspected. Friday is a week without hot water. Get it done. --24.152.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 10:57 AM
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Permits are required in my area as well. Just a money grab from the cities. I canít do one in less than an hour. I always have trouble getting them to drain. Turns into a two hour job easily. Plus with gas I triple check everything. Local plumbers are charging $1500, I keep scratch and dent units in stock that I generally pay less than $150. Good work! You saved a fortune and lots of down time Doing it yourself. --107.77.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 10:57 AM
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On this subject what are your thoughts on braided flex hoses? I have read that plumbing code says you need a hard copper line coming out of the water heater then you can transition to braided flex hoses but I scoured it and can't find it. I can solder but don't like to do it because it is never pretty and often run into problems getting it up to temp. --66.42.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 10:59 AM
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Homer, take a wire coat hanger and run it up the drain valve. Most likely sediment and Calcium build up in there. --24.152.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 11:05 AM
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If you have a maintenance man why are you doing anything other than sending him? --72.231.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 11:32 AM
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Ken good question. Simple and honest answer I love doing maintenance and I love being part of my own team-- working and training others. It's what I do 2nd best.

PERMITS yea I've heard of them too. Yes we have them-- no I don't give 2 hoots about permits.

We're letting people into our country-- I see that as a much worse violation then putting in a water heater. Permits yea! yea! yea! How about the no jail time for criminals-- hard core? how about that? And I should worry about a permit?

I've gotten two permits in 20 years and that was for septic tank work and new system. That is such a huge project and in plain sight is why.

NE exactly or a good hand truck? AKA strong.

CAN'T do!!!!!!!! did you really say CAN'T? --99.103.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 12:39 PM
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Myob, you rookie! I canít tell you how many septics weíve done without permits. Problem now is the plastic tanks are coming with serial #ís. --174.198.x.xx




1 HR waterheater (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 12:42 PM
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There's a handful of (us) here who are truly DIY'ers.

A rare breed. --24.183.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 1:15 PM
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MYOB, If you are going to pull a permit for a septic system, why not pull one for an inground swimming pool. Then after ohh about a year when you forget to clear the permit - let everyone know that you changed your mind. You will not be be installing the in ground pool after all. (wink... wink) --24.101.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 1:33 PM
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Im a rookie what can i say. I needed the permit for the soil perk test and location of new pipe field. --99.103.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 1:55 PM
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Wow, now that's impressive! Draining, purchasing and replacing it a gas water heater in an hour-- a record! Including removing it from the property. You're in the wrong business.

The only comment, you should never re-use supply lines, flexible or not! Not on a Sink, Toilet or Tub. --47.155.xx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 2:09 PM
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Oh for brand new stuff, gotcha. Totally understandable there. --174.198.x.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 3:05 PM
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NE. If I install I can not get OC permit next time vacant. And my local Lowes has installed the next day. So it's all good in my world. --172.58.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 3:06 PM
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Plenty, you have to get an occupancy permit at every turn over? --174.198.x.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 3:22 PM
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Robert wish someone had told those A --- les that concerning poly under slabs? --99.103.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 3:50 PM
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"Getter Done" --73.120.xx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 4:25 PM
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Regarding flexible supply lines, i keep a stash in my plumbing box, just measuring purposes. Make sure I get the right ends, length when i get to the store. But, getting everything standardized, so won't need those much longer. Into recycling they can go.

Any of youse guys know the answer to JAC's question? Now I'm curious about that... Or, to ask another way, what is the easiest, but still reliable method for connecting hot water heater lines? I don't think we'll see many more last as long as the last one I had replaced this year. That one was installed about 29 years ago! Newer ones don't seem to go too long.....

MYOB, that you still like to do this, that's the good stuff.

One hour, I'm impressed! --70.92.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by Plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 4:27 PM
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Yes. Every turn over in St. Louis County Missouri. --172.58.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 4:37 PM
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Wow. How do they even know you turn unit? --24.152.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 4:52 PM
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JAC, you can buy flexible coper lines, or corrugated stainless steel lines that are better than the steel braided hoses anyway, JMO.

I am unsure of your codes there. --73.120.xx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 5:09 PM
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NE,one of the local cities i deal with has to get a rental certificate for every new tenant and anytime a new owner takes over for a 2 unit or larger.I dont keep anything there any more and i dont bother if i buy a place and just resell it.If you get caught you get a fine,not sure how much.Another city inspects every three years any 2 unit or larger and they literally keep track of serial numbers on water heaters and you get fined if there isnt the right serial number and a plumbing permit pulled by a licensed plummer --72.231.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 5:32 PM
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Plenty, we have those OC permits here in my city as well. I have changed every water here without a permit. After installed, covers the new hot water heater with radiant barrier and then cover it with dust and dirt from your shop vac. They never notice itís new. --107.77.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 5:49 PM
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Ken, is there any way to take the serial # off the old unit? Thatís some petty nonsense. --24.152.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 5:51 PM
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NE. They know cause utilities change names. The residents needs a new OC with their names on it to register the kiddos in school. They check the labels on the WH, the pipes, the electric wires, dates on WH, etc. They look for the inspector's sticker. for a few years during the transition one could get away with it. But not any more. Stay tuned, coming to a town near you. --172.58.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 6:27 PM
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Big city vs the sticks. --24.152.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2022 6:40 PM
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NE,I doubt removing the serial number would do anything,they would just take pictures and show up next time with the pictures.It isnt a big concern to me anymore since i am not doing any of the work anymore so the only difference to me would be how much more a plummer would cost than my handyman --72.231.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2022 8:21 AM
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we do continuous service contract. when tenant leaves we place utilities in company name. That may help the OC test.

Gas and Power are under contract so service is never off.

WHY not become the Utility provider--bill them + 25%. --99.103.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2022 8:30 AM
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I have learned that this inspection may offer me a layer of protection. Alot of my units are HuD so they also have an inspection. Two inspections, my move in pictures, all point to a well maintained home. These inspections are generally done quickly and I don't find it delays with my move in process. It's my house but it's not on an island so ya just learn the rules, reap the benefits, and run the business. It's not bad it just is. I have a few homes in areas where nothing is required and I will say those are much easier to turn, less steps and overreach. However I maintain those to the same standard as I have learned what inspectors look for and correct in all houses regardless of the requirement inspections. --172.58.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2022 8:38 AM
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Plenty, youíve found a way to work it into your business model. Especially with the HUD inspections. Around here, we wait DAYS for inspectors to show up. One example recently, we waited 2 weeks for the power company to come after the inspection was done to turn the power on. 2 weeks!!! This is why we will disconnect main power at the riser and redo the panels and meter bases and keep going when applicable. So, yeah, we do everything we can on our own. Permits are when they benefit us or when we get busted only.

An investor I know built an entire house without a permit. He has it insured and has had it rented for years. --24.152.xxx.xx




1 HR waterheater (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2022 3:55 PM
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Nice going, myob!

We've DIY'd several electric HWHs. No idea as to whether or not we need a permit. Our philosophy: "It's easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission."

Seriously, our municipality SO FAR is pretty easy going and reasonable. Hubby wanted to build a covered wood rack. I talked to the zoning guy because the way I read the code, the rack did not qualify as a shed, and hence no permit. He said, "I'm a former wood burner myself. Nope, there are no sides to the rack, so that's not a shed. Wish I'd thought of that, all those years that I wrestled with tarps!" (We now have five of those covered racks.) --98.115.xxx.xxx




1 HR waterheater (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Jan 11, 2022 6:54 PM
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Although our freedoms are being eroded more every day, we still live in a mostly free state. I've been in home rehab/repair/lling for 24 years. I can still count my total permits on one hand and have fingers left over.

Some things I probably should get a permit for, but that always slows down the process with no value added.

Around here, permits have exactly one reason: to flag the auditor to raise your taxes. --158.115.xxx.xxx



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