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Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 7:44 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Still Learning [NH]) Jan 1, 2022 8:05 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Roy [AL]) Jan 1, 2022 8:08 AM
       Student loan deferment (by ned [AL]) Jan 1, 2022 8:12 AM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 8:13 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 1, 2022 8:18 AM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 8:27 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Roy [AL]) Jan 1, 2022 8:38 AM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 8:44 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Roy [AL]) Jan 1, 2022 9:02 AM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 9:05 AM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 9:08 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Roy [AL]) Jan 1, 2022 9:13 AM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 9:14 AM
       Student loan deferment (by JR [ME]) Jan 1, 2022 9:44 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Frank [NJ]) Jan 1, 2022 9:46 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jan 1, 2022 10:02 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Still Learning [NH]) Jan 1, 2022 10:47 AM
       Student loan deferment (by myob [GA]) Jan 1, 2022 11:18 AM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 11:23 AM
       Student loan deferment (by JAC [OH]) Jan 1, 2022 11:45 AM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 1, 2022 11:46 AM
       Student loan deferment (by Scott [IN]) Jan 1, 2022 12:12 PM
       Student loan deferment (by Scott [IN]) Jan 1, 2022 12:17 PM
       Student loan deferment (by Ken [NY]) Jan 1, 2022 3:44 PM
       Student loan deferment (by JR [ME]) Jan 1, 2022 4:06 PM
       Student loan deferment (by S i d [MO]) Jan 1, 2022 4:30 PM
       Student loan deferment (by Busy [WI]) Jan 1, 2022 6:58 PM
       Student loan deferment (by plenty [MO]) Jan 1, 2022 8:48 PM
       Student loan deferment (by Chris [CT]) Jan 2, 2022 2:03 PM
       Student loan deferment (by Facetious [NE]) Jan 2, 2022 2:31 PM
       Student loan deferment (by Wilma [PA]) Jan 2, 2022 4:53 PM
       Student loan deferment (by JAC [OH]) Jan 2, 2022 5:18 PM
       Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Jan 2, 2022 5:38 PM
       Student loan deferment (by Lana [IN]) Jan 2, 2022 7:15 PM
       Student loan deferment (by JR [ME]) Jan 2, 2022 7:34 PM
       Student loan deferment (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 4, 2022 5:12 PM


Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 7:44 AM
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How long are student loans typically deferred for? I have an applicant who is pretty good for the most part, but her student loans deferred. And I’m not talking a little bit. I’m talking $450,000! This avalanche of debt is going to crush this person one of these days. Is it legal to ask a prospective tenant when these come due Or out of deferment? --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:05 AM
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Payments were scheduled to start back up in January but Biden kicked it down the road again until May. Are they in the medical field, lawyer? --75.67.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:08 AM
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Why are you concerned? Most tenants have debts of one type or another. Student loan debt is just another debt that gets piled on all of the other debts. If this is an applicant, I would keep looking for another instead of trying to figure when the debt bomb is going to explode or implode. --71.207.xxx.x




Student loan deferment (by ned [AL]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:12 AM
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Wowsers. That's a lotta debt.

I'd prolly pass unless she could provide information on how much and when her payments would become due.

Geez....that's crazy. --70.92.xx.xx




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:13 AM
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Roy, read Ned’s answer. I would imagine $465,000 is going to end up being $2500-$3000 a month in payments. --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:18 AM
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1/4 million is student loans is not a shocker anymore. I hope their degrees aren't in cabbage patch doll collection, social worker making $25K a year or trying to find Waldo... --47.155.xx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:27 AM
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Medical field. 117k annual income with 2 year contract. Depending on the payment, the income should cover it. I wouldn’t want to be in that position though. Better off as a general laborer with no debt than in the medical field with no end to the debt. In my opinion. --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:38 AM
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Just because they are in the medical field does not guarantee you anything. Massive debt is massive debt and I would predict that either a default or re-structuring of the debt will happen when the deferment ends. However, this is not your problem and don't make it your problem by renting to this person. --71.207.xxx.x




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:44 AM
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Obviously the medical field doesn’t guarantee anything. However, a higher income can carry a higher debt load. 25k income and $400,000 in debt is worlds apart from the same debt to someone making 117k annually. I don’t care what their debt is as long as it falls in line payment wise with everything else. D to I ratio. Just like the bank wants to see. --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 9:02 AM
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NE,

$117K annually is NOT what it use to be. With rising inflation and income taxes, this applicant would have to be earning $250K before I would give them any consideration. --71.207.xxx.x




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 9:05 AM
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Possibly, but if they just got deferred and are deferred for another 5 years, I could work with that. --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 9:08 AM
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Plus, if Br@ n don Ends up forgiving student loan debt as a Hail Mary, that could be a home run for me. --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 9:13 AM
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It seems like you have already convinced yourself this future deadbeat will be your next tenant. Good luck. I hope things work out. --71.207.xxx.x




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 9:14 AM
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Oh no, she’s definitely not approved. Just wondering typical deferment lengths and if it’s kosher to ask the details of them legally. --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 9:44 AM
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NE, Roy,

Student loans are not dischargeable in bankruptcy, but “income based repayment” option is available. For fun I ran her figures on student loan hero website and it show her payments on the 450,000 to be $1,236 per month. After 20 years (ten if she works for the government or certain nonprofits) the loan balance is paid off by you and me the taxpayer. Such a deal. --98.13.xx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 9:46 AM
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I hzve read a bit about this issue. Unsecured debt with compounding interest, not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

As it comes due, the borrowers blame predatory banking practices, complicit colleges and 'too hard to understand' loan docs.

I do not see this candidate as a good one --174.206.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 10:02 AM
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As far as I can tell, tenants never pay their student loans and nothing ever happens to them. The debt just hangs there on their credit report. It doesn't matter much how much the monthly payment is if no one is making the payments. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 10:47 AM
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It’s not so much that the avalanche of debt crushes someone in the medical field if they stay in that field but it is an on going payment for a long time. I think my 45 year old cousin just paid hers off last month. Similar time frame for some chiropractors I know. If they leave the field and income, ghat is a different story. I thought it was typical to have about a 6 month deferment right out of school to allow time to find a job and there are income deferments but I have never heard of a 5 year standard deferment. Currently the federal government has frozen interest and allowed deferment. The talk about wiping out debt I thought was income related and only $10K. --75.67.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 11:18 AM
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500K for education.

to grab a job paying 40K a year.

"but I went to yale to be a grammar school teacher"

Well you could have gone to a local school for 30K a year!!!

so we should all pay for that? --99.103.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 11:23 AM
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Who is the taxpayer who’s “paying for it”? Unless Bra n Don forgives some or all, the borrow pays for it. Defaulting aside. My wife is repaying every cent of hers. I repaid every cent of mine. We borrowed before we knew any better, like most kids that age. Products of our parents. Defaulting would only accelerate a downward trajectory in life. --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 11:45 AM
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No one is racking up 450K for a Bachelor or even a Masters level degree. This is med school debt. But that being said my daughters Bachelors in Education total raw cost would have been 100K had she stayed on campus all 4 years. --66.42.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 11:46 AM
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This is optometry --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 12:12 PM
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I would consider her, but only if you can teach her that rent ALWAYS gets paid first. The government can't repossess her education, but you can make her life miserable if she fails to abide by that agreement. Bonus: You probably don't have to worry about her leaving you to buy a house. --107.141.xx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 12:17 PM
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Also, when she starts repaying her loan, find out when her monthly payments are due. Make rent due the week before. --107.141.xx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 3:44 PM
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I agree with Scott,she isnt buying a house anytime soon. --72.231.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 4:06 PM
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NE, you and me are the taxpayers who are going to repay this forgiven debt. Look up “REPAYE”. This program is already in place in which the taxpayer is paying back debt that never should have been borrowed.

“Under all four plans, any remaining loan balance is forgiven if your federal student loans aren't fully repaid at the end of the repayment period. For any income-driven repayment plan, periods of economic hardship deferment, periods of repayment under certain other repayment plans, and periods when your required payment is zero will count toward your total repayment period. Whether you will have a balance left to be forgiven at the end of your repayment period depends on a number of factors, such as how quickly your income rises and how large your income is relative to your debt.” --98.13.xx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 4:30 PM
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I'd pass on this candidate, simply due to poor decision making. You don't go $450,000 in the hole to make $117k. I don't care if they can carry that load now. She will be associating with peers who make 2-5 times that much who drive nice cars and live in big houses and the pressure to keep up will be immense.

I have no crystal ball, but my guess is within 2 years she piles on another $100k - $200k of "lifestyle". --45.20.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 6:58 PM
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Could applicant possibly have a student debt payment benefit upon completing a year or two of service in a remote location. That wouldn’t be counted as income now, as nothing is paid on those type of deals until service is completed.

Or, does that only happen in movies? ( and, no, I’m am not suggesting all that debt paid for a year’s work. There are limits. ) Certainly wouldn’t seem wrong, to me, to inquire if applicant has any such offer. But, what the heck do I know… not a lawyer….

--70.92.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 1, 2022 8:48 PM
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I would rent to her. It's good for now. When it's not good then end the relationship of LL tenant. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Jan 2, 2022 2:03 PM
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I would expect significantly more income with that level of med school debt, at least $250k if not $300k-$500k a year.

Is this person in fellowship?

I wouldn't worry about it they are very forgiving with student loan debt. --24.45.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Facetious [NE]) Posted on: Jan 2, 2022 2:31 PM
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Don’t worry guys. Hardly anyone actually qualifies for the “forgiveness” after ten years. It’s like less than 1% as the government ensures it’s nearly impossible to complete. My student loans are 190k. Payments are 600 bucks. Just bought a house and I have approx an 95k income. I’m doing fine. She’ll be good and I would assume her income will continue to go up. --68.226.xx.xx




Student loan deferment (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Jan 2, 2022 4:53 PM
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Facetious is right about the 1 percent. Many didn't pass all of the very strict parameters for forgiveness because they made assumptions or missed payments or didn't work 120 consecutive months for the correct types of institutions.

Those that did still had to pay every penny of interest, and on time, for 120 months. I'm not a fan of "forgiveness" programs, but that one in particular had very good parameters, and few who actually qualified. --98.115.xxx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jan 2, 2022 5:18 PM
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First of all a deferment is not a forgiveness. Second, forgiveness is usually done after 10 years of on time payment and employment of public service. Teachers in low income school districts, military service, fed or state govs, etc... Third it's only federal loan portion of their debt. Not private loans which make up the majority of ones student debt. These people are not getting any free rides. On the other hand we give rich people free rides all the time at the expense of taxpayers. Less overall tax burden, ability to write off losses and bankruptcy, tax write offs on big boats, planes, large homes, etc... Your manufactured outrage is typical for not having any idea how any of it works. --66.42.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 2, 2022 5:38 PM
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Moral of JAC’s story: teach you kids to use the United States tax laws to their benefit to become wealthy long term via business ownership and RE vs going eyeballs deep into debt at what were once prestigious American universities and are now not much more than leftist indoctrination centers to get useless degrees. --24.152.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Jan 2, 2022 7:15 PM
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Gads. My stepson went 100K in debt for a sociology degree.

He spent $200 a pop at sushi bars and floated a $400 plus a month cell bill while in college. He is making decent money now as a cybersecurity specialist. He is hoping B will wipe it all away.

I worked my way through undergrad and it took 7 years. No loans, but for the last 3 years my profs got me some big scholarships. Medical school was cheap in 1980, $2500 tuition a year, but was 5K by 1984. I got tuition covered by student aid and a under 2K loan yearly and I got a $5000 year Grant for 4 years to cover ALL living expenses. I got Section 8 type help for the last 2 years as well. I ate beans and rice for those 4 years. I still like beans and rice. The 4 years of grants were paid off by working 4 years in a medical shortage area for 4 years in primary care. My last year of med school, I bought a new car as I was traveling a lot for residency interviews and I borrowed 5K. I ended up with a total debt of $13,000 for 14 years of education, which I paid off the first year of payments. My loans were deferred until my 2nd year of private practice after residency.

NE you are right, those loans will hit hard. She will spend years of her life as a debt slave. How good a tenant she will be depends on her level of self discipline. She could have done a lot to lower that debt by making different choices. --216.23.xxx.xx




Student loan deferment (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Jan 2, 2022 7:34 PM
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JAC, I don’t know where you got the idea that the majority of school loans are private. 92% of education loans are federal loans. Most of the folks who will not repay their loans will not work in a low income school district, but for private employers. It is forgiven after 20 years instead of ten, but given that for many, their income-based repayment plan doesn’t even cover the interest on their loans, the principle balance goes up rather than down. In the end, the taxpayer winds up paying off the loan.

Like most liberals, you misuse the word subsidy. Taking less from a person is not a subsidy. Do they not teach how to draw a simple cash flow diagram over as MSNBC anymore? --98.13.xx.xxx




Student loan deferment (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 4, 2022 5:12 PM
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If there is a default on a Sallie Mae loan, your resident will not be getting a tax refund. --24.101.xxx.xxx





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