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get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 10:31 AM
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Long time tenant moving out. Seems sofa no longer fits in elevator. Sofa fit in elevator prior to upgrade to inside of elevator i.e. fake stone insides made it smaller.

Drama not over yet, but tenant is hinting she will just leave the sofa. Fine i have security deposit. I will charge the security deposit. But what is the best way to get. sofa down 5 flights of stairs.

Thinking of putting an ad on local listserer, just concerned about liability.

Ideas?

--108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 10:32 AM
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Get a saw! --50.82.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 10:40 AM
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I would hire a company like 1-800-GOT-JUNK? (expensive) to get the sofa out. That way you'll have a receipt for the removal. I suspect they would break it up to get it down. --74.102.xx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 10:45 AM
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Sawzall with a long demo blade --172.56.x.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 10:46 AM
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no window big enough? --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 11:08 AM
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Throw it over the railing. --75.7.xx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 11:39 AM
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Richard MI your stealing my advice? --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 11:42 AM
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Problem solving 101 --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 11:48 AM
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I understand why that would be a difficult problem for you. --174.198.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 11:51 AM
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I tell you what, Iíll make a deal with you. $100 an hour and I will take care of this for you. But youíre going have to carry it out of the apartment when Iím done. I will get it to that stage. Youíre going to have to pay me for my drive time though, because Iíll only be in the apartment probably six minutes. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 12:04 PM
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The old song about getting the Cadillac out of the factory one part at a time? --70.92.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 12:12 PM
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Problem solving 101 -- find out ALL your options...not just the obvious ones. Clearly there are multiple solution i want to know them all and decide.

--108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 12:17 PM
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Good thing you and Pauly are in the hicks, cause you wouldn't last a second in a big city! --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 12:23 PM
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I second a good Sawzall with ripping blades.

--47.155.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 12:29 PM
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J, these are the posts that keep me coming back for war. Itís interesting to watch landlords with multi million dollar portfolios over complicate things like removing a couch from an apartment. Real head scratcherís. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 12:30 PM
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*for more --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 12:52 PM
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over a 20 year period I've seen Leroy Jethro Gibs built 4 boats on his basement (that only had stairs going out). If he can do that you should be capable of getting one sofa out of a window. OK railing!

NE head scratcher? NAW it just shows anyone can claim to be in RE! anyone! --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:11 PM
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Could it be something as simple as removing the legs?

If they leave it, cut it in half to carry it out --68.229.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:13 PM
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Are you realistically suggesting i throw a sofa out a 5th floor window????? #1 this is not in the hicks where you can throw stuff out the window and not worry about hitting anyone. There are 88 units in this building i could kill someone!

#2 there is a portico covering the entrance to the building. The sofa being thrown out the window could destroy that expensive structure.

So is that is how you handle things in your neck of the woods?

Some ideas I am aware of is:

- putting the sofa onto of the elevator (in the shaft)

-cutting the sofa up taking out the small pieces

-hiring someone to remove the sofa (worried about liability if hire uninsured. I have the security deposit, but there are going to be other charges against the security deposit.)

I was looking for creative ideas, not comments from a bunch of jerks, living in the middle of nowhere, who throw large objects out of 5th floor windows.

Also tenant is still hoping to save the sofa, so cutting up is not the preferred option. She has put a message on the building list server looking for assistance...so far no luck.

I am being proactive in preparation for when this sofa issue becomes my problem.

Again looking for creative ideas, not hillbilly ideology!

--108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:19 PM
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Her problem is not your problem. If she wants to take the sofa with her, let her figure it out. Otherwise your only option is to cut it up unless you're willing to remove walls for her. --73.177.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:23 PM
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She had professional movers move the stuff out of the unit. I am sure the moving company had enough experience to take the legs off and try. They could not get it into the elevator ( interior has be remodeled so it is now smaller than when she moved the sofa in).

The moving company would not take the sofa down 5 flights because of lability issues.

She is still hoping to save the sofa, but she is also sending signals that she may abandon the sofa in the unit. --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:34 PM
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Laura are you for real? If you really think throw it out a 5 story window-- well I have this bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

HOLY MACkeral!!!!

you have all the options here.

Can I ask-- if the sofa isn't out-- are you taking possession? cause if it's still in there-- you may have to evcit to get possession? Have you thought that through?

If it's not out-- my words would be -- just leave it I'll get rid of it. Then do what ya gotta do. --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:43 PM
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MYOB...Are you having short term memory loss??? "no window big enough" was your post!!! If that post was suppose to be funny...it wasn't.

i am well aware of the law, she is responsible for the rent until the unit is vacated. Sofa does not get to live their rent free. Another reason, i don't want to spend the entire security deposit on sofa removal, because i am going to be charging her rent until the sofa is gone.

--108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:45 PM
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Several years ago that happened to me. PITA tenant called me in frustration that he couldn't get his leather sofa out of the apartment.

I said "if you got it in, then you can get it out".

He then asked me if I wanted to buy it and leave it in the apartment....I said no, but if you want to leave it for free, I would take it.

He did! It was a very nice sofa and I rent to students and try to furnish my places as much as possible, so it was his loss and my gain! --68.191.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:50 PM
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So, there isnít a freight elevator? Drat! One would think a high rise would have oneÖ

DJís idea about removing legs was excellent, if the tenant can decide to do that.

BTW, there used to be ( and still are) furniture movers who would remove/install through balconies. Even removing, reglazing windows, if needed. Yes, very expensive, yes, insured, yes, blocked streets off to do the move. Me and Pa and Jethro and EllieMae. saw such a move when us hicks did take a trip to the big city. Where they have seement ponds on the roof and donít even eat Ďpossum stew. Anything can be had for a price. Question is, is it worth it?

I thought this was a more ordinary sofa, maybe $2000 new, now worth considerably less. I have taken sofas left behind apart one nut and bolt at a time. Hefty scissors to cut upholstery, reciprocating saw for the frame. Scrap metal to recycling, fabric cut into rags, wood on the frame of a sofa can be very sturdy, dense wood. Made a small garden bench out of one.

Problem might be legal problem for the building owners, as various residents move out, who could be liable for removing valuable items that were easily moved in as a whole piece, but now can no longer move out in a whole piece. Sounds like a liability issue. Might need legal considerations. ( not a lawyer, donít play one on the inter webs.) --70.92.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:55 PM
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I was not there when he movers where there, but i can't imagine professional movers (it was a moving company) not taking the legs off a sofa when there is a fit problem. Only 1 elevator in the building. --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 1:55 PM
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Light it on fire. --50.107.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 2:15 PM
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ďI canít imagine professional moversÖĒ Oh, as a military family, with plenty of moves under our belt, I can . Movers are hired more for brawn, and resistance to back injuries than grey matter. At least those weíve seen.

Movers once resisted taking a fridge doors off for our friends, because parts would get lost, liability. So, WE took the doors off, put doors back on outside, not on the truckÖ. We offered to put doors back on once in the truck, but, told no. Liability, we couldnít step foot on the truck.. . Beast of a fridge. Oddly wide, deep. Long time ago, maybe movers are smarter now, less worried about liability ;-) --70.92.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 2:32 PM
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Around here we burn out trash. Couches and Christmas trees burn like crazy. You should see tires! --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 2:33 PM
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You're going to charge her rent until the sofa is removed?! Hahahahaha --73.177.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 2:34 PM
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If it doesnít fit it in the elevator and throwing it out the window or cutting it into pieces arenít options either, they used to sell CouchShrink TM by the gallon at Samís Club. See if they still carry it. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 2:36 PM
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Jason yep, and i will win in court. I can't let it go on forever, but in my laws the place is not vacated until you have removed all your items. She is still attempting to remove the sofa. So yes she will be charged rent until she abandons the sofa and returns the keys....so far not done! --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 2:43 PM
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NE...so you don't have trash collection services, you just have big bonfires? What about recycling, or is that a pass. What about plastics how do they burn?

Your tenants just have bonfires in the back yard? --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 2:47 PM
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No, the tenants are not allowed to burn. Plastic burns great. Recycling is a pass. It all goes in the dumpster or gets burned. If we didnít burn on our flip houses through the years, we wouldíve spent tons and tons of money on dumpster fees. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:06 PM
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Laura are you drinking the eggnog with no rum? gee's get off our necks-- you seem angreeeeee!!!!!

Yes I did say not a big enough window. You then said there's an awning below and people could get hurt-- WELL YEAH!!!! --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:09 PM
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Burning tires should tell you everything you need to know there. --166.216.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:09 PM
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Myob....reading skills matter.....reread the post. FYI I don't drink eggnog too many calories. --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:11 PM
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That's awesome, I wish VA had such laws! --73.177.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:15 PM
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JAC, donít be so sensitive. I only burn them at night. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:20 PM
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The smoke probably kills the virus. You're doing God's work. --73.177.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:21 PM
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Even at night tires burn so black you can see it --72.231.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:22 PM
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The smoke plus all the mold, lead and asbestos Iíve removed without permits. My kind on America. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:25 PM
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I will grant you things are different in small town America. You are in the right place for you! Go USA

--108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:26 PM
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The best part of burning is throwing the random aerosol cans in the fire for a good explosion. Keeps life interesting. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:30 PM
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I agree Laura, I couldnít imagine living anywhere else. Iím like a fish out of water in the city. Too claustrophobic. Let me know if you need me to take care of that couch. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:33 PM
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Hey NE wasn't going to mention this but just got back from 3 weeks in Europe (Lisbon, Spain & France). Wouldn't have gone but best friend retiring and she really wanted to go and trip was planned when we thought C was ending. Anyway...everyone (at least in Lisbon, Madrid, Barcelona & Paris (big cities) were wearing masks . And wearing them correctly. Also to eat in a restaurant (or any public place) you had to show your "sanitation" card (vaccine card, which the europeans have in digital format). Also they were making announcements about fines (big amounts) if you were not wearing a mask.

Something to look forward too.... --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:37 PM
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Oh came back to find out (via local listserver) that the local Amish market has been closed down. You know the Amish, the folks who don't believe in educating their kids past the 8th grade. Well it turns out they don't believe in mask wearing either, what a coincidence! After multiple warnings from local officials over mask wearing, the market has now been closed. Go figure??? --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:40 PM
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A year and a half ago, there were those of us who said that those of you would be required to have V cards. A

year and a half ago we were called conspiracy theorists.

Arbiet Macht Frei. Keep going though, youíre almost there! Only 3 more variants and 4 more boosters and you wonít have to worry anymore. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:41 PM
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NE...I need you for sooo many things. i will keep you updated on the sofa. What would life be without you???? --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:43 PM
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Without me it would be boring Laura. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:55 PM
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In the US i had pretty much stopped eating out. While traveling, eating out can be difficult to avoid. Personally I felt much better eating out, with my mask removed while eating, knowing that the folks around me were vaccinated.

Soon after I got my second jab (as you call it) the travel bug hit. I normally do a lot of traveling and C had kept me home. I planed a spur of the moment trip to Galveston Texas. I had never been and was curious.

Days after getting home I came down with "vaccinated" C. I was tested 2 times, negative both times. As was the case/described with Israeli healthcare workers. Israel is ahead of us in the vaccination path and a lot of the early information was coming out of Israel.

i have a good friend who I was in contact with immediately after my return from Texas. She has a 96 year old mother & i didn't want her to get it.

While I was as sick as have ever been from the nose up (it stayed out of my lungs/just had to constantly cough out )I did not test positive and did not transmit to anyone. I have no doubt that without the vaccine I would be dead or hospitalized and also possibly killed my friends Mother. I am so grateful for the vaccine!!!! --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 3:59 PM
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Ok. So let me get this straight, you had the vaccine AND the booster, got sick and tested NEGATIVE twice, but you still think you had C? How does that work? Is that science or you just guessing that you had C? Sounds like you just got sick. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 4:14 PM
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I thought someone was going to say PIVOT. My daughterís college apartment came with furniture so we didnít have to buy as much. She negotiated with the landlord we would do the cleaning and he could skip refinishing floors if the furniture could stay. 3 heavy couches and 3 floors up and a narrow turning staircase. Upon move out 2 years later, I told her get the new tenants to take the furniture and teach them how to negotiate that with the landlord. Thankfully it worked or it would have been a sawzall and junk hauler. --75.67.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 4:28 PM
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When I got C...I had only had 2 vaccines. I tested negative twice within a few days of each other. One was an at home test, the other was to the county facility. Yes, if your viral load is not high enough (you can test negative). I was vaccinated, so my viral load was low.

nortonhealthcare . com / news/ you-can-test-negative-for-covid-and-still-have-it/

Yet i was plenty sick, couldn't imagine what it would have been like without the vaccine My symptoms were consistent with "vaccinated Covid" and i had just left Texas/Galveston which was full of folks like you.

FYI....anyone who hasn't been to Galveston don't bother. It has been in a 100 year decline since the great storm.

--108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 4:31 PM
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Iím still confused how do you know that you got C if you tested negative? Youíre either positive or your negative, correct? --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 4:54 PM
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Movers afraid of liability or work?

Whose bright idea was it to put a foe stone in the elevator and decrease it's size? Someone was not thinking ahead.

Does she not have family and friends?

How would you be able to charge her rent for leaving the couch? It isn't her fault the elevator got smaller.

How big and heavy is the couch?

Is a a sleeper sofa?

Some couches tenants buy are just foam.

OT, I like the Amish self reliance. It would also appear that they stand behind their beliefs.

--73.120.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 4:57 PM
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I agree about the Amish. I will go the way of the Amish before I go the way of the New Normal. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 4:57 PM
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Hey, why donít you contact the Amish and see if they want the couch? They do have furniture stores and maybe they will consign it for you. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by don [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 4:59 PM
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The portico cannot surround the entire bldg. Throw it out a window where there is no portico. Barricade off the area below. Or, try to rope it down if it is not too heavy, but don't wrap the rope around any body parts lest it pull you out. --73.141.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 5:02 PM
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NE...i know it isn't a youtube video...but to answer your question on how to test negative and still have Covid

nortonhealthcare . com / news/ you-can-test-negative-for-covid-and-still-have-it/ --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 5:14 PM
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Sorry, but Iím not going to believe some obscure hospital who says that you can be positive even though youíre negative. Not after almost 2 years and never hearing that anywhere else. Thatís not science. You were sick and you tested negative twice. People have to test negative to go back to work and back to school. So effectively even though you were sick, you were OK to go back to work. I donít think you had C at all. I think you had a head cold with a side of hypochondria. I think a lot of people in this country have regular sicknesses with a side of hypochondria. Way too many people just running to the doctors every time they have a runny nose. So many people get a case of the sniffles think itís automatically the C. Sorry, I donít believe you. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 5:43 PM
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How many more references would you like about, I just sent the first one. How many????? --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 5:48 PM
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Health care tests can provide false positives and false negatives.

This error rate is understood and tolerated. This is why supplemental tests are often ordered. --157.131.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 5:58 PM
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The hospitals get paid for people with covid,i think you found a hospital just making up positive results to get paid extra --72.231.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 5:59 PM
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Hubba, any remedy for the couch or do you just jump in on the Convid stuff?

Laura, itís OK to get sick. Itís still OK to not feel well in America, it doesnít mean you have Covid. Itís going to be OK. You, my friend, are going to be OK. By the science you are using, it renders your tests useless. If youíre positive when youíre negative, then weíre potentially always all positive. See how this is so perfectly designed to never end? --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:00 PM
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That stands up to scrutiny Ken. Hospitals get paid regardless. I hear that business is good. --157.131.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:07 PM
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All sorts of things. Just search.

You on the other hand, 95% covid screeds by volume. --157.131.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:15 PM
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Wait a minute. YOu made the elevator smaller. She can sue you for the price of the couch. Bwa ha ha ha. --108.24.xx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:17 PM
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Hey hubbabubba, if people donít want to hear it, donít bring it up. The last two threads I did not initiate. If you donít want me to blow holes in the narrative, donít bring it up. I donít know how much real estate you have actually done or how many tenants youíve screen, but I am analytical in nature. It is almost my job to sniff out boolshet. Thatís why itís so easy for me to pick this whole thing apart. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:26 PM
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Laura, since you are identifying as positive, make sure you call the CDC and ask to be added to their statistics. If you get any pushback, demand to speak with a manager. --50.107.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:28 PM
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Yet every thread your are on it emerges. I particularly like your hoax rant on Brad's thread. Profoundly tone deaf.

--157.131.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:33 PM
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So Hubba, you donít agree that the government response is a hoax? Hahaha, thatís the biggest aspect of this! Iím glad you support eviction moratoriums. Sell! --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:40 PM
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Oh and I didnít bring it up in that thread either! Until I was labeled an offensive ranter. Questioning this has got me called everything under the sun. By Laura and others. A terrorist, an insurrectionist, a hick, a typhoid Mary, a super spreader, and offensive ranter, selfish, a science denier. You name it! What a crew!

But thatís OK, Iím a landlord. I can handle it. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Radar [IN]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:45 PM
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How did this post start from not being able to get a couch into an elevator and then talking about the C word? NE (PA). You are a breath of fresh air as we both think alike. It's good to know that someone took over my place after I was banned from this site. I do admit that I went a little overboard at times and my banning was probably justified. It's hard to believe that so many people have been hoodwinked to getting the jab. My wife and I will never inject unknown things into our bodies. I don't think the benefits outweigh the risks. No one knows what's going to happen to these jabbed people down the road. We are both 75 years old and we don't trust our government one bit. We follow Phil Godlewski and Graham ledger on rumble as we cut the cable two or three years ago. We don't listen to the mainstream media any longer. I appreciate Jeffrey letting us speak freely on his site while others would ban our free speech. Go get them, NE!!! --50.102.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 6:51 PM
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Thanks Radar, I keep things balanced on the landlord threads. Unless itís ridiculous and then Iíll have a little fun with it. But if threads go to the Covid route, the gloves come off. And if that gets me banned, so be it. Because thereís a bigger fight here. And itís a matter of what kind of country I want to leave to my great grandchildren. The new normal that is being pushed or the country that my great grandparents left to me. And I know which one Iím willing to die for to leave my great grandchildren. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 7:03 PM
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"...It's hard to believe that so many people have been hoodwinked to getting the jab..."

Not really, a lot of fear was pushed. --73.120.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 7:09 PM
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6x6, What has really surprised me the most is how many landlords here have bought into it as well. And continue to do so. Sick or not. People who are supposed to be levelheaded in nature. Critical thinking in their natural make-up in order to be successful. Thatís the real shocker! And itís not that theyíre not successful in their business, but you would think that it would carry over into the other aspects of her life. Youíre not supposed to make decisions when you are emotional and panicked. Covid greatly invokes emotion and panic. And they are making so many decisions while in the state of mind. Willingly giving up freedoms. Willingly giving up rental income. Willingly taking experimental drugs into their bodies. Willingly staying away from their loved ones just because some guy on the TV told them to. And still begging for more restrictions. Unbelievable. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2021 8:30 PM
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NE, I have been a little surprised at that myself. I would have thought most here would have been against it. Maybe it is the boiled frog affect? --73.120.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 9:35 AM
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"Willingly taking experimental drugs into their bodies..." All drugs are individually experimental.

NE, have you ever heard Tim Minchin's hilarious beat poem about critical thinking..."STORM"

w w w .youtube.com/watch?v=jIWj3tI-DXg&ab_channel=TimMinchin

He's one of my favorite comedians/entertainers. --50.82.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 9:46 AM
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Should add: not at ALL "safe for work." --50.82.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 9:52 AM
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What are you talking about WMH? A negative test is required to return to work or school once testing positive or being identified as a close contact. Thatís in Pa and Iím sure many other states and countries. Laura didnít even test positive and you are saying sheís not safe to go to work after testing negative TWICE. You Convid folks donít even trust the science youíre telling everyone to trust. Youíre making stuff up as you go along. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 10:23 AM
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The summer before covid arrived I had something similar. A guy at the hardware store had it too. He went to the hospital and I did not. Had a bad dry cough constantly, it went to my lungs. I saw two Ear, Nose Throat guys. Could not hear or smell much of anything. Got an MRI of head. Eventually it went away but Ear, Nose Throat guy No. Two said I had a virus and a summer allergy. Had crackling in my lungs. I now believe I had RSV, Respiratory Synscitial Virus, . Kids get it and it can kill a baby. It is going around and I have seen lots of small articles about it. The covid tests are notoriously inaccurate except for the one that takes two days to get results. Even the creator of the test said not to use it. Covid is in the air and can be up someone's nose but not causing that illness in someone who has immunity already from having a mild case. --108.24.xx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 10:41 AM
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... The best part of burning is throwing the random aerosol cans in the fire for a good explosion...

NE, you and my middle son would be best friends if you lived around here. Not only does he throw aerosol cans into the bon fire he, at almost 40 years of age, still makes "works" bombs on a random Sunday afternoon ... just because.

As his mother, I tell him not to do it and yell when he ignores me but life goes on. His wife rolls her eyes, shakes her head and wonders what she ever saw in him ... she's from "in town" and country life has opened her eyes to an entirely different (if not always intelligent) mind set.

--98.237.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 10:43 AM
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all this for a sofa? --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 10:46 AM
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Myob, conversations do naturally evolve. Ebb and flow. Do you sit at a holiday dinner and only discuss one topic for 6 hours?

Nicole, tell him to try a can of pork and beans. Those have interesting results. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 11:02 AM
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NE then lets take off the headings for topics and just make it one big post?

We still need to get that sofa outta there!!!! --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 11:05 AM
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Well, I offered to do it for 100 bucks an hour. I didnít hear back yet, so sheís either thinking about taking my offer or I was too high. I would expect a counter though. But as time pressure builds, my price is going to go up. The longer it sits in there, the more desperate sheís going to be to get it out. --174.198.x.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 11:15 AM
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is it possible, after 85 posts, she's lost her way? After all she did think that throwing the sofa out a 5 story window would work since there's an awning below!

--99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 11:50 AM
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MYOB....still having reading comprehension problems i see.

EX Tenant emailed me this morning telling me she is still working on it.

I can get an uninsured guy to do it for $70 or an insured company for $175. Both are going to cut it up and haul it away. Tenant still has keys to place while she attempts to solve the problem. i am still charging her rent, while the sofa lives there & she has the keys. --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 11:53 AM
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Why do you need an insured grunt laborer to remove an old couch? --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 11:59 AM
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When you live in the big city and are not interested in getting sued because the grunt laborer hurt their back moving the sofa. Also $$$ money coming out of her security deposit, why would i take on the risk????? --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 11:59 AM
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NE in case he hits the awning!!!

Your last sentence may say it all. Your charging her-- or you've collected-- 2 very different things. My reading comp is in bad shape. --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 12:02 PM
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You should have it out by now. Between yesterday and todayÖ.. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 12:04 PM
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MYOB...I would have expected you to know how security deposits work. But she is moving out and I have X days to return her security deposit less expenses. Moving the sofa out would fall under an expense category.. chargeable to her security deposit. Thats how they work. I have already collected the $$$, at lease signing. I will be charging her the cost during the security deposit accounting.....again thats how security deposit work. Hope everything is OK, cognitive skills may be slipping???? --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 12:28 PM
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Imagine the money youíd save hiring NE for a meager $100! I bet heíd even be willing to sign a liability waiver! --50.239.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 12:37 PM
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No Jason, itís $100/hr. But she has to pay drive time because Iíll only be in the unit about 6 minutes. 2 minutes to set up the tools (unbox and plug in sawz-all), 2 minutes to cut it in half and 2 minutes to clean up the tools. --24.152.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 12:40 PM
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NE, you didn't read my post. I said the beat poem I posted was not safe for work, it didn't have anything to do with Covid or the vaccine.

It's a silly obscene spoken beat poem about critical thinking. --50.82.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 12:40 PM
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NE, you didn't read my post. I said the beat poem I posted was not safe for work, it didn't have anything to do with Covid or the vaccine.

It's a silly obscene spoken beat poem about critical thinking. --50.82.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 1:08 PM
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Good idea, Laura, about taking the money out of the security deposit. Perhaps you could note to the tenant now that a minimum of $175 would be taken out of the deposit to remove the sofa?

Best of luck with the issue. Also, I hope that you are completely recovered. --71.202.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 1:41 PM
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I'll cut it up for $99 --172.58.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 1:44 PM
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Uh oh. A bidding war! $75 plus lunch. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:01 PM
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Well i have now seen the sofa. The bulk of this moving drama was happening while i was out of the country. It is a sleep sofa (no removable legs). In great condition...ultra suede, looks newish. She said she got it a Macys.

Going to be a waste to cut it into half, but the local charities take weeks to pick up and I don't think they will deal with stairs.

--108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:05 PM
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"all this for a sofa?"

Yes sir, unbelievable isn't it? --73.120.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:08 PM
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Youíre too emotional over the couch. Who cares what shape itís in. Get rid of it. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:09 PM
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Maybe your next renter would want it?

I still don't see how it is her fault that the elevator got smaller?

Not only does she lose a nice couch, but you are going to ding her for something that isn't really her fault.

Could she sue you for that? I think so. --73.120.xx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:12 PM
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Isnít there an emergency fire escape? Can she take it down the steps? 6 x 6, who cares about the elevator situation, it is the tenants responsibility to empty the unit out. --174.198.x.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:14 PM
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No other tenants on that floor wanted it? Especially now they know they cannot get one up there? (I think Jo already mentioned thisÖ I just donít want to scroll through to see whom suggested something like thisÖ oh, I think they were thinking leave it in that unit. ) --184.55.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:17 PM
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6x6 2 things....the condo association is under no obligation to make sure her sofa fits into the elevator, nor are they under any obligation to check with her to see if her sofa fits in the elevator prior to making changes to the elevator.

Her sofa does not get to stay in my apartment rent free and she does not get to keep her sofa in my apart and keys to my apartment rent free while she figures out how to get her sofa out.

I use to be on my local landlord tenant commission i have already run this by the head of the commission. She is responsible for the rent while her sofa is there and she has the keys, she had not moved out and turned over possession. --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:46 PM
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This is going to be one expensive couch.

Need a metal blade for the saws all if its a sleeper sofa. They can be unruly! TO HANDLE. --99.103.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 3:49 PM
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I'm in for lunch! --172.58.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 4:17 PM
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Sleep sofas are like pool tables: albatrosses. We have purchased two homes that had pool tables in them - one we said sure you can leave it and what a HASSLE to get rid of it, but free on CL worked. Ground floor so easier.

Second time we told the Seller pool table had to be gone before we would close. --50.82.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 4:17 PM
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Sleep sofas are like pool tables: albatrosses. We have purchased two homes that had pool tables in them - one we said sure you can leave it and what a HASSLE to get rid of it, but free on CL worked. Ground floor so easier.

Second time we told the Seller pool table had to be gone before we would close. --50.82.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 5:54 PM
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High School Math here. The whole is equal to the sum of the parts.

Cut it into smaller manageable pieces. Mattress ticking

and fabric gets sliced up and bagged to trash. Metal springs get pried off and removed to the iron yard. The wood goes to the fire pit or to the trash.

Reduce, Recycle, Reuse. --184.57.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 8:05 PM
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If you can't charge rent, charge a daily fee for sofa storage. Escalating cost as HER motivator. Make her need to duck the fee and get the sofa out for you.

If not, hire it done and charge her. Don't even think about how they are going to do it.

Hate big pieces! --216.23.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 8:38 PM
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I asked the handyman to cut up my sofa when I had to move to help my mother when she could no longer walk. It was light but very puffy. Best sleep I ever had on that thing. I was moving everything myself and did not want to call a mover. I would think a sleep sofa of metal would have screws to take it apart underneath the covering and padding. Doubt if you need a metal blade. --108.24.xx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Dec 20, 2021 9:50 PM
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Can a teenager ride it down 5 stories? That would redefine "couch surfing" --24.101.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Dec 24, 2021 1:24 PM
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Where there's a Will, there's a Hen Way. --24.183.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by dino [CA]) Posted on: Dec 30, 2021 12:57 PM
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I don't know about your state but in many you are wrong about tenant being responsible for rent as long as sofa is still there.

If a tenant gives you notice to move,turns over keys, and leaves only sofa behind, possession has been transferred, and you would then have the right to use abandonment procedure for property.

It is true you can charge for cost of storage during abandonment procedure, as well as other legitimate costs you incur in getting rid of sofa.

In Calif if value of property left behind is less than $700, LL has right to trash it or whatever. If more than $700, then LL is supposed to hold public auction. Needless to say, when you evaluate the value, you would take into account all aspects of wear, damage, etc and take photos in order to justify getting rid of it rather than holding auction. I do not know of anyone that has held the auction.

--76.171.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 30, 2021 1:19 PM
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Dino...tenant did NOT turn over keys...reread post! --108.56.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by dino [CA]) Posted on: Dec 30, 2021 10:40 PM
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Laura,

Yes I got the impression tenant is still in process of moving out, but if and when tenant turns over keys and says sofa is being left there, that is what I was talking about.

Just on the issue of keeping furnishings left behind by tenant, I would always and still do document everything so I could either keep, sell, or trash. The years have taught me though it's just not worth the few dollars to sell and almost all tenants had no interest in using the items. So bottom line is save the trouble and time. Avoid the liability by documenting and following your state procedure. Then when allowed, trash it. In this case, I have to agree with those wanting to chop it up and make it a breeze to get rid of.

--76.171.xxx.xxx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 31, 2021 10:59 AM
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Is there a balcony? Saw a video of a couch being wired out the third floor apartment from the balcony! Maybe there is a way! --172.58.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 31, 2021 11:30 AM
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Thank you. youtu.be/cAuNCNMp0Go --172.58.xxx.xx




get a sofa down 5 flght (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Dec 31, 2021 1:08 PM
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Thanks all the sofa now has a new home in a dumpster somewhere ....$125 to get it hauled down the stairs and taken away. Used a licensed junk hauling company because - $$$ being deducted from tenant's security deposit & I don't want to be liable for any injuries. --108.56.xxx.xx





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