Can they get back in (by Shari [CT]) Nov 30, 2021 6:26 PM|
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Can they get back in (by Richard [MI]) Nov 30, 2021 7:31 PM
Can they get back in (by Ken [NY]) Nov 30, 2021 7:35 PM
Can they get back in (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 30, 2021 8:34 PM
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Can they get back in (by Still Learning [NH]) Nov 30, 2021 9:09 PM
Can they get back in (by Shari [CT]) Dec 1, 2021 1:11 AM
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Can they get back in (by Vee [OH]) Dec 3, 2021 2:50 PM
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Can they get back in (by Shari [CT]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 6:26 PM
Tenant sent me a text on November 1st letting us know they were moving out on December 2nd and to use part of the security for the November rent. I told the tenant that they could not use the security for rent. They told me then they would need to be late in paying the rent and that they would pay the late fee. When the 12th of November rolled around they told me they couldn't pay the rent they just didn't have it. Today the 30th they had movers come there and move everything out of the apartment and there were keys left on the oven. we had to go in there because there was some water leaking to the basement downstairs and that's when we discovered that they had left. This evening we got a call from the police department saying that they wanted to get back into the apartment that they had a few things that they needed to get my husband explained that there was nothing left in the apartment to the police officer but the police officer further mentioned that they had no heat at the new place that they were going to and that they were going to plan to stay the night at our apartment even though there was nothing there. the police officer was pressing that we had an agreement with them and that was that they were going to be leaving on the 2nd of December but I explained to the police officer that they hadn't even paid the rent for November and that we had already secured the apartment because everything was gone and the keys were left on the oven. My husband is going over there now to meet the police officer to let them in to get whatever supposedly they say they left there but I was fortunately able to reach my attorney who is now going to talk to my husband and the police officer when my husband gets there but the attorney mentioned they're out they left they took all their stuff and they left the keys so but then went on to say have your husband call so I'm just wondering if anybody here ever went through this where a person said they were leaving they took everything out left the keys and then wanted to get back in again after you've already changed the locks which my husband did today --32.213.xxx.xx
Can they get back in (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 7:19 PM
No, never had that happen.
How on earth did police get involved? There was no crime committed. Is it a friend of theirs trying to scare you into letting them move back in?
They clearly returned possession to you. If they have no heat at their new place, That's there problem. They should have had their new utilities turned on.
That's what hotels & family/friends are for. I trust you are neither, so they may NOT stay there overnight (or who knows how much longer).
BTW: They have SOME NERVE - even after NOT paying rent!
Good luck - let us know how it ends up. --68.229.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 7:31 PM
Whoever they are trying to scam for the next month probably locked them out and without money in hand refused to let them move in. Now their "stuff" is probably in a truck or in storage.
Tell them to check the homless shelter or the red cross but don't let them in. If you do, they likely won't leave and you'll have to evict them from scratch.
They have returned the unit to you. Keep it that way. --75.7.xx.xx
Can they get back in (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 7:35 PM
Dont let the cop push you around,he doesnt know the law.They returned the keys that means they returned possession --72.231.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 8:34 PM
Let them in....as long as they pay November, December and January's rent before moving in.
Is that going to happen?
But you are twisting the position around so that they can see that they are trying to screw you badly. --24.101.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 8:42 PM
So what happened? --172.58.xxx.xx
Can they get back in (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 9:09 PM
Just when you think youíve seen or heard it all something new comes out of left field. I would agree that empty and keys left means they gave possession back except they said the second and didnít tell you they were out. I leave everyone a form called Relinquishment of Possession where they fill in date, sign and leave a forwarding address where they would like the security deposit accounting/any monies owed to them mailed to. It also reminds them to forward mail, turn off utilities, and leave it in the same condition it was given to them to get the most security deposit money returned minus damages/money owed. I have different language for end of lease vs breaking a lease. I ask for it to be completed and left on the counter, keys in lock box on door knob after locking up for the last time and text when they are out. I do this even if things are contentious. In your case, had they done that it would have been clear cut possession returned. --75.67.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Shari [CT]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 1:11 AM
We are screwed! We called our attorney and he told my husband to call when he got to apartment so he could talk to cop. Cop said it was an unlawful lock out and we had to let them back in. The attorney told the cop he did not agree with that but cop said they had an agreement to leave on 2nd and they had stuff to get. Then when we reminded the cop that there was nothing in apartment cop did not seem to care. He did not care the guy did not hold up his agreement to pay. Picture this my husband had to recharge locks, let guy back in with his blow up bed and when my husband said to him there is nothing in there of yours he said it's none of your business and get out of my apartment. My husband and I are sick. What has this world come to. --32.213.xxx.xx
Can they get back in (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 7:06 AM
Very strange in deed. Normally, whenever WE call the police they say it is a civil matter - nothing they can do.
I still say the police officer is a friend of theirs.
I wonder what would happen if you had the time/desire to contact the chief of police for his/her take on it all.
Should have never gone over to meet them. Let them take you to court. --68.229.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 7:36 AM
I am so sorry they got back in. Take them to court for Dec rent as well. In NH it might have fallen under abandonment laws. Does CT have that? The door would have to have been posted with a specific letter/form and I would have to look it up to confirm but I think it has to be mailed as well. At least 2 conditions have to be met: Most of possessions removed including ones consistent of living there, keys returned including left in the unit, not paid rent for 90 or 91 days, I think there is 1 other option as well. --75.67.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 8:27 AM
I would have made the cop arrest me,then i would have had grounds to go after him. --72.231.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 8:52 AM
It's too bad that your husband didn't ask these folks what their new address was (using the excuse you need it to inform them of the status of their security deposit).
With the new address you know where to serve them when you sue them for the months they owe rent. --73.108.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 9:38 AM
Your fault entirely. No one should have gone over to meet the police. Nothing to do with not paying the rent - that was on
you on November 2not a month later. Everything was out and keys were on counter. How does the tenant telling you they will be out on December 2 constitute an agreement?
Very odd situation that they contacted the police unless they tried to get in and saw the locks were changed. Why did he rechange the locks? If he felt the need, he could have given them the key to the new lock and then changed it again once they are out... whenever that may be.
Have you filed with the courts for November and December rent? --98.237.xxx.xx
Can they get back in (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 12:38 PM
Can they get back in (by Tonia [RI]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 2:00 PM
CT is a very very tenant friendly (non landlord) state. Once the unit is empty and key returned on counter is considered return of possession. Police officer overstepping boundary as this was a civil matter ( should be out catching bad guys). I would not have met him at property. You and your attorney should contacted the chief of police file complaint against this officer. Follow others advice about court filings. Sorry this has happened to you. --172.58.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 6:06 PM
I might be a jerk and have people hang out outside. How were they getting in without keys? I would still do the eviction. Remember to follow state law for the deposit. How exactly does their lease end on the 2nd? It should have been dealt with before the last minute if it doesn't legit end on the 2nd. If not, holdover tenant. --73.230.xxx.xx
Can they get back in (by Shari [CT]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 7:22 PM
So just to follow up to a few questions and clarifications. To the person who asked do we have their new address, yes, I got that a few weeks ago. As to the timeline. We got notified on November 2nd of a 30 day notice indicating they would be out Dec 2nd. They said to apply security to November rent but I did not want to do that nor is that acceptable in CT so I told him that and he said okay so I will be late for November rent but will pay late fee. Then when 10 days went by he said he could not afford it. So If he stays past the 2nd of December I will process eviction but my attorney said its a real pain right now to do eviction, they have to give notice to someone can't remember exactly who before they even start eviction but more involved than before. Attorney suggested I just wait until Dec 2nd to hope he moves. That was before this all happened. As to the person who said talk to the police chief. I did call the police station earlier and the dispatcher who gave me his number said he was reading the notes and the officer did indicate we agreed to the 2nd. I told him will you guys come to the apartment if they dont leave tomorrow. They said he would but of course we know that if the jerk decides not to leave that cops aren't going to give a crap. Anywho. I usually put in lease that they need to give notice no later than the first of the month which for some reason his lease did not include that verbiage . I need to be a little more careful when doing my leases to make sure all of these things are included. I will follow up later to let you guys know what happened.
Can they get back in (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 7:27 PM
Iím going to pile on and say your hubby should never have gone over to meet with the police. Do you think the police would have kicked the door in? Civil matter. Have the police talk to your lawyer. Sometime. --98.13.xx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 11:45 PM
1. Rekey locks just in case they copied it.
2. Tell them the lease was terminated so need to fill out application.
3. All debts from previous lease must be paid.
4. Tell then NO! when check clears the bank. --108.69.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2021 7:28 AM
It's complicated. Good luck. Hope all works out. They will be there until 11:59 tonight, Dec 2 nd. Spiteful. --172.58.xxx.xx
Can they get back in (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2021 2:50 PM
I would advise tenant to file in court, they surrendered the unit with the keys. End of story... --76.188.xxx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2021 3:04 PM
I know this is a done deal, but for others who may be in this situation:
Their statement that they were moving out Dec. 2 does not constitute an "agreement" because agreement requires two parties to consent. You did not consent to this. Their tenancy terminated because they surrendered the keys. You had every right to change the locks once they surrendered possession. That's the legal situation, and it sounds like you did a good job of explaining it.
The practical way I would have dealt with it is to say, "They STATED that they would be out on Dec. 2nd, but in actuality they moved out earlier. So sorry to hear they left a few things behind. They are welcome to send us a list of the missing items, and we will arrange a time to meet." Note that the meeting place will NOT be at the apartment. You should have called their bluff. The police officer went way beyond his authority. I also would not have showed up, unless it was three hours later and I wanted to make sure they hadn't broken in. --174.96.xx.xxx
Can they get back in (by Sharon [CT]) Posted on: Dec 3, 2021 3:59 PM
The officer did go above and beyond. I think he felt my acknowledging the notice from tenant agreement to that date totally disregarding his failure to agreement to pay
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