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Lumber increase (by Kevin [FL]) Nov 30, 2021 8:03 AM
       Lumber increase (by Marv [IL]) Nov 30, 2021 8:39 AM
       Lumber increase (by Larry [MN]) Nov 30, 2021 9:10 AM
       Lumber increase (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Nov 30, 2021 9:15 AM
       Lumber increase (by #22 [MO]) Nov 30, 2021 9:34 AM
       Lumber increase (by Steve [MA]) Nov 30, 2021 9:51 AM
       Lumber increase (by S i d [MO]) Nov 30, 2021 9:57 AM
       Lumber increase (by MAP [NY]) Nov 30, 2021 3:26 PM
       Lumber increase (by 6x6 [TN]) Nov 30, 2021 5:54 PM
       Lumber increase (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Nov 30, 2021 10:01 PM
       Lumber increase (by Marv [IL]) Dec 1, 2021 8:24 AM
       Lumber increase (by Marv [IL]) Dec 1, 2021 8:28 AM
       Lumber increase (by JAC [OH]) Dec 1, 2021 5:51 PM
       Lumber increase (by NE [PA]) Dec 1, 2021 6:08 PM
       Lumber increase (by Pmh [TX]) Dec 1, 2021 6:59 PM
       Lumber increase (by NE [PA]) Dec 1, 2021 7:05 PM
       Lumber increase (by JAC [OH]) Dec 1, 2021 7:25 PM
       Lumber increase (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Dec 2, 2021 9:08 AM
       Lumber increase (by NE [PA]) Dec 2, 2021 9:30 AM
       Lumber increase (by Chris [CT]) Dec 2, 2021 11:17 AM
       Lumber increase (by JAC [OH]) Dec 2, 2021 11:33 AM
       Lumber increase (by NE [PA]) Dec 2, 2021 11:49 AM
       Lumber increase (by JAC [OH]) Dec 2, 2021 12:22 PM

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Lumber increase (by Kevin [FL]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 8:03 AM
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From the WSJ

President Biden says he feels your pain regarding inflation, and heís made public-relations moves to show it, begging ports to move goods faster and OPEC to produce more oil. Too bad his Administrationís policies reveal different priorities. Witness the Commerce Departmentís decision to raise tariffs on lumber, which will raise building costs in an already strained housing market.

The Commerce Department said last week that it will double the average tariff on Canadian softwood lumber to 17.9% from 8.99%. Softwoods like spruce and pine are the backbone of light construction, and a steady supply is key to restraining the rising cost of home building. For decades U.S. sawmills havenít been able to meet domestic demand, but theyíve leaned on government to protect their market share.

Opinion: Potomac Watch

WSJ Opinion Potomac Watch

Doubts About Biden As The President Turns 79

Now the Biden Administration is taking up their cause, squeezing imported wood. Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo has framed the decision as a bargaining move, pressuring Canada to curb its lumber subsidies. But the U.S. lobby admits the tariffs are a boon to American producers. --47.205.xxx.x




Lumber increase (by Marv [IL]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 8:39 AM
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How much has a 8' 2x4 gone up in your area? --67.184.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by Larry [MN]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 9:10 AM
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It's mostly gone back down. --68.46.xx.xxx




Lumber increase (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 9:15 AM
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It is estimated that fifty per cent is Canadian lumber where one wonders about free trade where that is not free trade. There was going to be a subsidy for EV vehicles made in the Us where there is free movement for vehicles and parts between two countries. Protectionism raises prices as supply goes down and demand goes up. There are metal studs which are not used a lot. The EV subsidy only applies to vehicles made at union operated assembly plants where other EV vehicles made in the Us will not qualify. With all this talk about going green it should apply to all EV vehicles except if made in China. What happened with lumber is just in time where not over stocking lumber where there is no over supply where lumber never goes on sale. More and more just in time where less goes on sale for everything. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 9:34 AM
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Disagree about it being mostly back down. Osb at 21-25 a sheet... used to be 7 almost all the time, except during huge demand spikes --174.209.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 9:51 AM
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In my area 8' 2x4s SPF are currently about $3.50 at HD & Lowes & about $.75 more at the local lumber yards. At the height of things, the same 2x4s were $12.25 & $13.50 respectively. 7/17 Zip wall is currently $34.25 at the BB & $2.00- $4.00 more at the local lumber yards. At the height of things these were more than double those prices even if buying lift quantities.

PT lumber at both the BB & local lumber yards is down to less than 1/2 the prices that it was at the height. More importantly from my perspective, it is available unlike during the height of things.

Plastic electric boxes & 12/2 & 14/2 wire seem to be in short supply & are rather pricey. --71.174.xx.xxx




Lumber increase (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 9:57 AM
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8' 2x4 studs were selling for $10.47 a piece at Lowes about 10 months ago. Today they're at $3.98. I wasn't tracking plywood 10 months ago, so no clue how high it was then.

My favorite is how Biden touted on his first day in office that he was signing legislation to shut down the Keystone pipeline...now he's tapping the strategic oil reserve. I'm not sure if the pipeline would have been completed yet, but it shows how knee-jerk movements to appease various voting blocks can come back to bite you in the behind later. Let's face it: fossil fuels are going to continue to be a major part of our energy plan for decades. Might as well have domestic sources vs. depend on foreign sources. --108.230.xxx.xx




Lumber increase (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 3:26 PM
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Heard a trucker call in to talk radio the other day. Under the T admin, they could make three trips a day to haul goods. Now under the B regime, they have been issued an edict to make only one trip a day thus causing the "supply chain crisis." (TM)

Fifty bucks says they will go back to the 3 trip a day as usual just before the midterms to appear to have "solved the supply chain crisis." (TM) --174.208.xx.xxx




Lumber increase (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 5:54 PM
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None of this is accidental --73.120.xx.xxx




Lumber increase (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2021 10:01 PM
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At the home depot today priced out a 2/4 8' which came out to $3.88 Cdn where the Cdn dollar is lower then a Us dollar. Plus there is a Harmonized Sales Tax of 13% on top. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by Marv [IL]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 8:24 AM
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In April of this year OSB was 45 per sheet for our Habitat house. It's now back down to 18 per sheet. --67.184.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by Marv [IL]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 8:28 AM
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"none of this is accident"

You sound like Ted Cruz saying that "within a week of Biden being elected Coronavirus will go away." --67.184.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 5:51 PM
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I don't get your issue. You either want manufacturing and raw material production in the US or you don't. If you do want it, you have de-incentive lower cost imports thereby favoring US production. There are millions of unused leases for logging and oil in the US. Its going to create jobs but everyone costs will go up because labor costs more in the US unless you want to socialize costs in those industries. If not then don't complain about US jobs not being available. --72.49.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 6:08 PM
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But yet you constantly push for higher minimum wage? Canít worship 2 masters JAC. --24.152.xxx.xx




Lumber increase (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 6:59 PM
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NE: fed minimum wage has not increased in 25 (?) years. however I know of no co that has paid that minimum wage in 25 years.... --24.227.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 7:05 PM
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Thatís not my point --24.152.xxx.xx




Lumber increase (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 1, 2021 7:25 PM
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I'm not making a preference statement, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy. Tariffs were OK during 2016 through 2019 now all of sudden they are not? You sound confused. Also min wage was $7.25 in 2009 and the same 12 years later. How much did your rent go up? I also heard that red states are paying unemployment to vax quitters. I thought we were trying to put people back to work...hmm. --72.49.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2021 9:08 AM
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[[[[...... There are millions of unused leases for logging and oil in the US. Its going to create jobs......]]]]]]]

Not one job in the lumber industry was lost because the mills couldn't sell their product. American mills could not produce enough lumber to meet the demand. They ran 24 hours a day. It was not Canadian lumber that closed down the timber industry in the USA. Tariffs have absolutely nothing to do with it.

--76.178.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2021 9:30 AM
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Iím not trying to put anyone back to work. I believe a man makes himself. All Iím saying is that you canít bash high prices of US products due to labor costs and also be an advocate for paying higher wages. Self defeating ideology. --24.152.xxx.xx




Lumber increase (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2021 11:17 AM
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The big lumber producers must be good campaign donors! --24.45.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2021 11:33 AM
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I never said the industry lost jobs. Putting aside NEs and Oregons blabber, if you want prices to drop you need to increase supply. You increase supply by opening more logging on unused leases thereby creating more jobs. You can make opening unused leases more profitable many ways, one by increasing tariffs on cheaper imports. But the logging industry was forecasted to lose 16% of it's jobs from 2016 to 2026 so your statement that the industry never lost jobs is suspect. In the last two years its been easier to promote Corporate socialism and reap profits from cost increases than actually invest in your industry and allow market forces to dictate when you make money. --72.49.xxx.xxx




Lumber increase (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2021 11:49 AM
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Well then JAC, stop voting the way you do and come over to the capitalist side of things. --24.152.xxx.xx




Lumber increase (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Dec 2, 2021 12:22 PM
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Corporate socialism is the capitalistic side of things? That was all prior to 2019. Now its get to work and invest properly. --72.49.xxx.xxx



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