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1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 9:35 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Richard [MI]) Nov 24, 2021 9:44 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 9:52 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Laura [MD]) Nov 24, 2021 10:44 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by myob [GA]) Nov 24, 2021 11:43 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 11:49 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by DJ [VA]) Nov 24, 2021 11:52 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Ken [NY]) Nov 24, 2021 11:53 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by DJ [VA]) Nov 24, 2021 11:54 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 11:55 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 12:02 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 12:04 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Allym [NJ]) Nov 24, 2021 1:06 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 1:31 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by myob [GA]) Nov 24, 2021 1:45 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 2:45 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 2:52 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by P.B. [MI]) Nov 24, 2021 8:23 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 24, 2021 10:54 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Paulio [PA]) Nov 25, 2021 8:45 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by 6x6 [TN]) Nov 25, 2021 10:56 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 25, 2021 1:04 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Patrick [VA]) Nov 26, 2021 2:58 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Nov 26, 2021 3:13 PM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by plenty [MO]) Nov 28, 2021 6:36 AM
       1 uncooperative tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Nov 28, 2021 11:45 AM

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1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 9:35 AM
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I am posting this for a friend of mine who is a landlord with one property. She owns a three-story house where she lives on the first floor. She presently has four tenants on the third floor. She rents the apartment out by rooms. Not everyone knows each other but it works out as this is a college community

She accepted One tenant who only wanted the rental for six months which was fine with her. She now is having several other students interested in looking at the apartment however this one tenant out of all four is giving her a hard time. Heís telling her that she needs to give him 24 hours notice to enter the apartment.

The other three tenants are fine with allowing her to come in at a moments notice so, now there seems to be a conflict here. She has an opportunity today to show the apartment to a student who will be leaving for the holidays and the difficult tenant told her that ďI told you I need 24 hours notice so if you go in today, I will be deducting rent for this dayĒ.

I told her thatís fine, if he deducts the money from the rent just take it from his security deposit, however, he seems to be a rather irascible individual and might cause a stink.

She has permission from the other students, so feedback on this would be appreciated. Anyone ever deal with this kind of situation?

--68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 9:44 AM
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Sometimes you get aggravated and then decide to play the jerk's game rather than just evict them.

In this case, if she decides to play, just have her give the jerk a 24 hour notice EVERY SINGLE DAY. Just walk up and attach it to the jerk's door EVERY DAY.

"You wanted it-you got it!"

Along with this, have her modify the lease agreement to say that any refusal by tenant to honor any notice will result in a $200 or more charge,per incident, payable immediately. Then enforce it.

--75.7.xx.xx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 9:52 AM
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Richard, great idea! She has contacted the other tenants who are cooperative and will be going in. Definitely we will have a new clause in her lease and mine as well about the $200 fine for refusal to enter. --68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 10:44 AM
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You have to follow state local laws. You can not just write lease clauses that contradict the existing laws. This is why it is important to screen for cooperation. The laws are the laws. Your proposed clause will just get you in trouble if someone decides to challenge it. There are laws that govern how much notice is required before entering. --108.56.xxx.xx




1 uncooperative tenant (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 11:43 AM
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I'll go against he flow here and say the LLady is the jerk. Why does she think no notice needs to be given? because she has walked over the other 3.

I'm sorry but advance notice needs to be given. What a nerve to do this.

Laura mentions laws-- how about just common courtesy? --99.103.xxx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 11:49 AM
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She is giving notice even if itís a few hours. She is asking them all via text if itís OK. Three say yes one says no. Thatís the issue how does one deal with that.

She is not just walking right in, maybe I didnít make my first post clear, however, she does text for permission. If no one answers her she does not go in but if three say yes and one says no, thatís where the conflict is. What is the law about that? It seems to be unclear --68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 11:52 AM
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One other thought to ad:

When I had the rooming house, my rental agreement said - and everyone agreed before move in- that I or any workers could enter the main areas at any reasonable time (something like 9am- 8 pm, or whatever) to do repairs or show vacant rooms. If anybody needed to go into their personal, private room, notice was required.

I did always yell and announce myself - just n case someone needed to cover up or run back into their room. And usually would give them a head up - but, with all their different schedules & fairly high on-site presence needed, this worked well. --68.229.xxx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 11:53 AM
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It is rented by the room not the whole apt,she needs to give notice only to go in his room,she does not need to give him notice to go into the apt itself and show a different room,kitchen,bathroom etc --72.231.xxx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 11:54 AM
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Why doesn't your friend come here herself, and try to learn all she can personally? --68.229.xxx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 11:55 AM
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DJ that sounds quite reasonable to me. I think that as long as there are closet in the lease that everyone agrees on that is understandable.

This is similar. Everyone has their private bedrooms and the common areas are shared. Thereís no need for her to open up anybodyís bedroom doors she just wants to show the main areas.

Again, if three are OK with it and one is not then that becomes an issue --68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 12:02 PM
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DJ, yes, agreed, I inquired on her behalf.

I told her about this site and I am going to go over and work with her and show her how to look things up. She is not very computer savvy so I am happy to help her out.

--68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 12:04 PM
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Ken, that is what I was assuming however, I donít think there is anything in Connecticut state laws that address this issue of getting permission from three and one says no.

Iíll research though and see what I might find

--68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 1:06 PM
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You have to give 24 hour notice. End of story. Anything else could be seen as breaking and entering. You expect them to play by the rules so you must also. --108.24.xx.xx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 1:31 PM
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So Ally, even if the other three roommates give permission she canít go in to show the common areas? This doesnít make sense to me, and Iím not sure how clear the law is on that but again Iíll research it.

She just called me and told me that this particular kid caught her in the driveway as she was leaving and told her point-blank ďif you come into my apartment Iím going to call the policeď.

I told her it was a civil matter in the police probably would not do anything about it however, I told her to stop communicating with him and donít engage in any calls or texts at this point. Heís due to leave at the end of December and hopefully he does but it sounds like heís showing another side of him that is not very pleasant.

He turned and gave her the finger before he left. --68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 1:45 PM
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well here's different story. Is it common area?-- cause no one owns the COMMON AREA. He made it clear-- INTO "HIS APARTMENT".

think MAYBE WE'RE HITTING APPLE AND ORANGES HERE.

For me and this is just me-- now that the gauntlet has been laid down-- I would go in. Cause I am the boss not the tenant. Let him call the police and get a case number.

Sounds like a big man want A bee to me. Giving the finger to a women-- your land lady --is a big no no. He's probable a big pussy and from PA.

--99.103.xxx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 2:45 PM
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myob, yes thank you for your response. I wasnít sure if I clarified that in the first statement but yes he threatened her with calling the police if he found her in the apartment. This is a four bedroom apartment, rooms are rented separately.

The other tenants told her she could certainly go in. She asked them early this morning if she could go in at 11 and they responded yes. The other one, the problem kid said ďI want 24 hours noticeĒ.

She was showing the common areas. She knew that the kid did not want anyone in his room and she respected that. With the permission of the other roommates, she went in. I was there to meet the interested party and to help her. Sheís a fairly new landlord and a friend so I wanted to help in any way I could, and she appreciates it when I show up so sheís not the only one in the apartment with someone in the event that the other tenants are not there.

There are no smoke and mirrors here. Yes this kid threatened her with a police call and yes he gave her the finger when he left. Her daughter recorded everything on her phone. So I believe she was well within her rights to show the common areas because she had permission from the other roommates. Iím glad you saw the truth in this idiocy. --68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 2:52 PM
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Oh, and one more thing. She was having issues with the heat in the house and the thermostat.

She told me this yesterday and called the plumber. Thereís a thermostat on the third floor where these four roommates live that needed to be looked at. He told her he could come by within a few hours.

She texted them all and apologized for the short notice, but this was an emergency situation because the heat was not working and the plumber was available in a few hours so she just gave notice that he would be coming over. Three all responded back that it was fine but the noncompliant one said ďitís not an emergency, I need 24 hours noticeď!

This is just another example of his behavior --68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by P.B. [MI]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 8:23 PM
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I suggest that you look up your states laws concerning the time frame in which written notice needs to be given, to enter.

In Michigan we must give a 24 hour notice, except in an emergency.

As far as his personal room is concerned he apparently is asking for a 24 hour notice, so I think she should give it.

This is an idea for the future. She needs to take a video of each room, when it is empty and available, if they are different.

When a prospective person desires to apply and view one of the rooms she can show the video.

Now, the common area is different and she should be allowed to show that at any time.

--67.22.x.xx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2021 10:54 PM
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PB.. yes she is well aware that 24 hour notice is what the law is however, if she texts them and asks for permission and they all agree then the timeframe is negligible at that point.

Yes, to show his room he wants 24 hours notice and she will abide by that however, this was common areas.

I like your idea and definitely will advise her to take pictures and videos of the room so that when someone wants 24 hour notice, then we could show the interested person everything they need to see.

--68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2021 8:45 AM
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Just wondering if this was a 20-unit apartment building, would you need all 20 approvals in order to show the lobby? No. --50.107.xxx.xx




1 uncooperative tenant (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2021 10:56 AM
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Following --73.120.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2021 1:04 PM
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Paulio.I agree! --68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Patrick [VA]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2021 2:58 PM
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Sounds like this kid is a student. I would contact his parents and explain what is going on. In all the leases my daughter was in during college, I signed every one of them or she was not approved. If I didnt get help from the parents, I would immediately file for eviction against both of them.

--72.214.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2021 3:13 PM
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Patrick, his lease ends at the end of December.

My friend said that he is moving his items out. He has a bicycle, a motorcycle and a few other things and they are now gone. I think sheís going to wait it out. We have discussed putting clauses in the leases about this for the future.

Sometimes parents are not cooperative but it seems like he will be leaving and she could move on.

Yes, he is a student and the semester is now up for him so he will be gone by or before the end of December. --68.191.xx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 28, 2021 6:36 AM
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I will be there in Thursday if you refuse enter you will be fine fee if $200 added to your rent. ... Geez. The Landlord is in control. Reverse his words. --172.58.xxx.xxx




1 uncooperative tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Nov 28, 2021 11:45 AM
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So if any one of the four tenants wish to invite anyone, including the landlady, into the common areas of their home they need the permission of the other three? Yeah, right.

That said, this is not a good situation. You say her daughter was videoing this confrontation. In my opinion, that is stirring the pot. I have NEVER felt the need to video or tape a conversation with a tenant. If I ever in any situation, not just landlording, had someone feel the need to video my interaction with them that would end VERY quickly and I would be done with them probably forever. Yes, I understand the concept of big brother watching all of us most of the time but I mean specifically. --98.237.xxx.xx



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