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Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Nov 22, 2021 4:22 PM
       Craig's List (by TonyT [PA]) Nov 22, 2021 4:26 PM
       Craig's List (by plenty [MO]) Nov 22, 2021 4:34 PM
       Craig's List (by J [FL]) Nov 22, 2021 4:51 PM
       Craig's List (by Pmh [TX]) Nov 22, 2021 4:54 PM
       Craig's List (by Jason [VA]) Nov 22, 2021 5:06 PM
       Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Nov 22, 2021 5:28 PM
       Craig's List (by Sisco [MO]) Nov 22, 2021 5:54 PM
       Craig's List (by P.B. [MI]) Nov 22, 2021 6:17 PM
       Craig's List (by S i d [MO]) Nov 22, 2021 6:18 PM
       Craig's List (by Gail K [GA]) Nov 22, 2021 6:29 PM
       Craig's List (by MAP [NY]) Nov 22, 2021 6:36 PM
       Craig's List (by Don [PA]) Nov 22, 2021 6:41 PM
       Craig's List (by don [PA]) Nov 22, 2021 6:44 PM
       Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Nov 22, 2021 6:46 PM
       Craig's List (by Ken [NY]) Nov 22, 2021 6:51 PM
       Craig's List (by J [FL]) Nov 22, 2021 8:37 PM
       Craig's List (by Dee Ann [WI]) Nov 23, 2021 1:02 AM
       Craig's List (by Still Learning [NH]) Nov 23, 2021 7:03 AM
       Craig's List (by Smokowna [MD]) Nov 23, 2021 11:05 AM
       Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Nov 23, 2021 11:24 AM
       Craig's List (by S i d [MO]) Nov 23, 2021 11:55 AM
       Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Nov 23, 2021 12:29 PM
       Craig's List (by Jason [VA]) Nov 23, 2021 12:32 PM
       Craig's List (by Sisco [MO]) Nov 23, 2021 12:38 PM
       Craig's List (by S i d [MO]) Nov 23, 2021 12:54 PM
       Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Nov 23, 2021 6:27 PM
       Craig's List (by Jason [VA]) Nov 23, 2021 6:30 PM
       Craig's List (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 25, 2021 9:33 PM
       Craig's List (by mike [CA]) Nov 26, 2021 1:12 PM
       Craig's List (by Jim in O C [CA]) Nov 26, 2021 1:23 PM

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Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 4:22 PM
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I find that whenever I start telling people why I am not going to accept them as tenants, it ALWAYS goes badly. So I avoid doing that whenever possible.

There is a young woman that has been in a domestic abuse situation that has been working a state job for only 5 months. A solid one month of that she has been emailing me every day trying to convince me to change my mind. I want to actually come clean with her & tell her:

1: You have association with a known dope dealer/ex con in the neighborhood.

2: You told me up front social services would be paying the deposit (no incentive there to want to get it back like with your own money)

3: She's got a court case pending with known excon concerning him supposedly stealing a car from her she paid for but he "owns" now somehow. So I'm not even sure how she's getting to work?

You get the gist of it, even has her brother calling me about it!

I've reworked the ad, stressing you have to be on your job for a year to qualify, just to get her off my back. Has not worked.

What is it about desperate people that don't get that I am not interested in "desperate" people for tenants?

She even has a possession of pot on her record, not a conviction so I can't even go there. --71.219.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by TonyT [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 4:26 PM
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Just do a credit check on her and turn her down based on that. If all you said is true, I doubt she'll have good credit. --96.240.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 4:34 PM
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Can you rewrite your list to be about YOU instead of her?

Example; must be at your job for a year.

Example: must have good character reference. --172.58.xx.xxx




Craig's List (by J [FL]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 4:51 PM
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I thought you said you've owned rentals for decades now? I'm surprised you still seem to have so many problems dealing with applicants. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 4:54 PM
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just say no like my wife does. you do need to post a list of criteria required to accept an application. --107.77.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 5:06 PM
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You seem to enjoy the drama. I reject the deadbeats in writing either via email or text and if they try to have a conversation about it with me, their number is blocked. Done.

I waste zero time and energy with deadbeats. --73.177.xxx.xx




Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 5:28 PM
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I'm sorry if you guys think I enjoy it, I don't. In fact I'm worn out from it because it's so much of it.

I realize that the price range of our rentals draws out a lot of the "drama laden".

The posting was more about the fact that some people don't seem to take NO for an answer and evidently whining has worked with/for them up to now.

Also, don't you folks even worry about them wreaking havoc on your property if you tick them off? Since they know where it is. There must be an art of saying no like you mean it without causing them to want to hurt you. --71.219.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 5:54 PM
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Pat, perhaps you have missed the forum conversation threads about this very topic.

Many here use this response:

Unfortunately, we are not able to approve your application at this time.

If you would like more information please send a self addressed stamped envelope to Pat VA, Anytown VA. Allow 30 days for reply.

This message requires the combatant to take action, write a letter, mail it and wait. Very few will do so. As long as they can make you answer their questions with little to no effort required from them, you can expect to receive lots of questions. Reduce the number of questions by 99% by using the reply that I have provided. Copy it into notes on your phone, copy, paste, send, and you are done.

--149.76.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by P.B. [MI]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 6:17 PM
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I would tell her in an email one more time. "I am sorry but your application to rent my unit has been denied and because you continue to email me every day, all future emails will go to spam."

Then do it. Put all future emails in spam. Then forget about her.

--67.22.x.xx




Craig's List (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 6:18 PM
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I do what Sisco does, except I say 4-6 weeks for a response. No one ever sends the letter.

I think the problem here is you think you owe them a response to every communication attempt. You do not. Send her a "not approved" notice, then block her email and block her phone.

Do I worry about passed off people damaging my property? Nope. 16 years in the biz, over 200 apps rejected. Zero damages. If your worry about pissed off tenants causes you paralyzing anxiety, this probably isn't the right business to be in.

--172.58.xx.xxx




Craig's List (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 6:29 PM
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I have blocked a bunch of people who have tried that sort of stuff with me. Last rental I had available I had one woman who kept sending me sob stories about her suffering, her being thrown out in the "cold" (this was in May and we were already running air), how she would be the best tenant I ever had, blah, blah, blah. After the third time when the begging increased I just told her the property had been rented and then blocked her. I worked in the medical field for 30 years but I sure wasn't a social worker and quite honestly, I don't give much of a care for the pickles some applicants get themselves into. --73.108.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 6:36 PM
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Another vote for: please send self addressed stamped envelope and allow 4-6 weeks for a response. --72.231.xxx.xx




Craig's List (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 6:41 PM
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Why would you get into this with her? So you and she can argue about the accusations that you make? The less you say to someone not approved, the better. You can only hurt yourself----just slip up a little and mention something that COULD be a discriminatory basis and see where that gets you. --70.90.xx.xxx




Craig's List (by don [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 6:44 PM
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My city has a law forbidding discrimination based on source of income. If your town or state has the same and you tell her she was disapproved because of her source of the security deposit--------uh, oh. --70.90.xx.xxx




Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 6:46 PM
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All good thoughts. Yes, one of them sicked her social worker on me.

I calmly responded that my ad stated no evictions need apply. There was evidence of an unlawful detainer this year in Waynesboro on this person. Or was I mistaken?

So far, I have not heard back from the social worker, so maybe she was unaware.

It's just been awfully hard dealing with 7 turnovers this year. Yes, I know I'm too old for this and yes, I know I should be doing better after all of these years. I mopped one floor in a singlewide today, but it is one clean floor that wasn't clean yesterday.

So, "it's progress not perfection", if any of you recognize where that comes from? --71.219.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 6:51 PM
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I just ignore the losers,i dont even contact them to tell them they dont get the place,they know they are losers.Maybe time to sell with the crazy price increases and fast sales that are happening --72.231.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by J [FL]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2021 8:37 PM
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"Also, don't you folks even worry about them wreaking havoc on your property if you tick them off? Since they know where it is."

No because the chance of someone actually doing that just because I didn't rent to them is extremely low. I did have someone threaten to do that once but it was just hot air.

Respectfully, you seem to be coming from a very fear-based place with this and you are are letting these people waste your time with over-engaging with them. Find a way to take control again. Probably with better pre-screening. This applicant is someone who should have been weeded out in pre-screening on email and never given a showing because she's grossly unqualified. Game over. No need to engage with her or her caseworker. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 1:02 AM
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Pat, I do feel your pain. Lots of turnovers, rather ELTs, latest one now, over the holidays when no one is looking but deadbeats in Milwaukee.

I'm using the "all calls go to voicemail" learned fro many in this group which has saved my sanity. Stopped replying to any who don't follow my ad instructions to leave their full name (so I can check court records). Those that do follow instructions but don't pass the courts records test do not even get a call back. In the old days I was more polite and returned all calls...but NO MORE. Some good advice given here. I especially like P.B.'s "and because you continue to email me everyday.." --75.11.xx.xx




Craig's List (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 7:03 AM
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I also agree with PB. Anyone that is that demanding, overbearing, or however you describe it just trying to get a place. Imagine what they would be like when their AC broke or they decided they wanted a pet in a no pet apartment. --75.67.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 11:05 AM
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I wanted to chime in. I too see more desperate types. Rents are climbing and it is harder for these folks to find homes.

I believe the tenant pool has worsened over the last decade. People are getting weaker and more foolish with money. This is probably what you are noticing as well.

Keep moping, or gardening, or parasailing....You'll never grow old!

That said, I better get up and away from this desk --96.241.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 11:24 AM
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Just got back from the house, I mopped the big kitchen and the tiny bath floor. I hate tile that has grooves in it!

Note to self: When buying new vinyl, pick smooth. Some slobs never scrub, dirt builds up!

We put a For Rent sign pointer on the side of US 15, a little over a city block from our house, pointing the way. Disadvantage of a dead-end road, limited traffic, maybe this will help. The local newspaper is 35 miles away, nobody local reads it.

We've been in this position many times, it too will pass. It pays to wait, better empty than filled with wrong one. --71.219.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 11:55 AM
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I'm going to ask... have you blocked her and her social worker's phone numbers and emails yet? --108.230.xxx.xx




Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 12:29 PM
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Sid, the social worker was actually for a different girl.

I admit IDK how to block a Craigslist e-mail. I am surprised that she hasn't called me, since her brother has my phone number.

I've taken off all of my ads on CL for now. Just going to try the local sign and might have to drop price back to 600. I had a couple willing to give me that. I've been trying for 650., I really think it is worth that. I am getting more than that for one singlewide I have. --71.219.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 12:32 PM
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Craigslist is only used by scammers around my area. If you want results try Zillow. --172.58.xxx.xx




Craig's List (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 12:38 PM
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Pat, you should overhaul your advertising systems. A bandit sign out near the highway and a CL ad are the worst methods I can think of to get well qualified inquiries.

If you won't, or can't learn to build and maintain a website, post youth be videos, post ads to z ill ow, zu per, FB mark et place, then hire it out. Get excellent quality pictures, write excellent quality ads.

If you continue to do as you have done, you will continue to get the same results. --149.76.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 12:54 PM
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I'm with Sisco on this one: the days of "For Rent" signs in the yard are past. The best candidates go to places like Zillow and other online places that aren't free like Craigslist. I stopped using CL years ago: too many scammers and time-wasters.

$19.99 gets you 90 days (3 months) of ads on Zillow. Soooooo much better than a tattered, faded "For Rent" sign the neighborhood kids will steal or throw rocks at. Haven't used one in over a decade.

$50 a month difference on the rent is concerning. Definitely going to be a problem if someone does any damaged or gets behind. If that amount changes their world, I'm not interested. First un-scheduled car repair or sick day and you'll get excuses instead of rent. --108.230.xxx.xx




Craig's List (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 6:27 PM
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Called in an ad to the local newspaper, being on the internet might get me the one I need. It's online before printed one comes out.

It might be an opening to the 3 bedroom singlewide we are finishing up tomorrow, and the 3 bedroom singlewide that tenants are moving out of (they bought). I have a deposit on the 4 bedroom doublewide with the new 4,000.00 driveway (tenant caused dispute with neighbor, can no longer use shared drive). We might have won in court but didn't want continued animosity. They lost the property in question. --71.219.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2021 6:30 PM
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Newspapers arenít a thing anymore, youíre wasting your time and money. I donít even know if people look at the newspaper classifieds online anymore. --172.56.x.xxx




Craig's List (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2021 9:33 PM
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Why are you turning this person down?

Just let the person know that the screening has uncovered some court records that prevent us from processing your application any further. Please contact the following judges office so you can straighten out that judges records. After that is done, we will gladly accept you.

Who know that might not be her. Also it be the judges records that are messed up. I seriously doubt it - but hey it could happen. Meanwhile, since the place isn't full - continue to screen for a qualified applicant. If applicants that are qualified don't like the place - find out what they don't like and get it fixed. --24.101.xxx.xxx




Craig's List (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2021 1:12 PM
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tread carefully...you never have to explain what you said if you don't say it. find any ONE of many likely reasons she does not qualify and rely on that. read and live by Don {PA}'s advisories...DO NOT go into suspicions, conjecture, what-ifs...fair housing laws change frequently, state laws about DV are fluid. take the application, process it and issue a WQRITTEN turndown using nebulous language and a reference to her credit report which she can access through the proper channels. this presumes you did pull a report.

as far as craigslist goes...it works great for me. i make the tenants jump through hoops on their first contact and use that as my "audition". tell them to include their full name, names and ages of ALL proposed tenants, real email, a phone number and any other info you want...ignore those that cannot read and comply...this is their audition after all --75.80.xx.xx




Craig's List (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2021 1:23 PM
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Due to the large number of applicants I tell everyone I will contact you if I need your credit check fee. If I do get contacted my standard reply is I selected someone more qualified. That could be higher income, more time on the job, lower debt to income ratio or larger savings account amount. I had 9 applicants and 41 inquiries. --67.169.xxx.xx



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