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Lock jammed just now (by AllyM [NJ]) Nov 19, 2021 8:44 PM
       Lock jammed just now (by Richard [MI]) Nov 19, 2021 9:15 PM
       Lock jammed just now (by del [MD]) Nov 19, 2021 9:21 PM
       Lock jammed just now (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 19, 2021 10:14 PM
       Lock jammed just now (by plenty [MO]) Nov 19, 2021 10:16 PM
       Lock jammed just now (by Busy [WI]) Nov 20, 2021 6:19 AM
       Lock jammed just now (by Allym [NJ]) Nov 20, 2021 8:04 AM
       Lock jammed just now (by Allym [NJ]) Nov 20, 2021 9:23 AM
       Lock jammed just now (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Nov 20, 2021 10:18 AM
       Lock jammed just now (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 20, 2021 8:08 PM
       Lock jammed just now (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Nov 20, 2021 11:12 PM
       Lock jammed just now (by Allym [NJ]) Nov 21, 2021 10:40 AM

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Lock jammed just now (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2021 8:44 PM
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So it's dark out and phone rings. Tenant can't open lock. Door is jammed somehow. OK, I drive over, it's two blocks. A very old push down latch on the front door will not move. I can't believe I left that piece of old crap on there. I try to improve everything. Ok so tell tenant we can go in through garage entrance. She says no that she has a special pole thing under the door knob so it won't budge. She also has one on the cellar entrance. So tenant has effectively left no way to get in if something mechanical goes wrong with the front door. So she says we can try to push in the garage to house door. For some reason she has no key. She did have key on move in and I have it. Same as apartment door. Maybe hers is badly cut. OK so I manage to push the door in 2 inches and get my skinny wrists in there but can't grab the pole thingy. So she gets a car cleaner pole and manages to dislodge the pole lock and we are in. So we go to the front door and it's lock is working but there is an old old latch that has to be pushed down and it's stuck. So the fix is to use tape around that latch to keep it from going into it's slot in the jamb.

So what does the locksmith, assuming I can find one tomorrow, have to do to fix that door? There is a big old curved handle and the latch is on top of that. On the side is a plate with the other latch in it that goes into the jamb. The lock that functions with the key is a surface mount dead bolt. Tenant is a helicopter mechanic so she says she can fix it but has been called into work tomorrow.

Now she did this because her room mate has been frightened by things going on locally like gun shots and they drove through Trenton and saw a guy who had been stabbed laying in a pool of blood. Nice. Roommate now scared. What can I do to make her feel safer? More locks? Door bell camera? One of those inside surveillance modules? They are great tenants and I would hate to lose them. Suggestions?

--108.24.xx.xx




Lock jammed just now (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2021 9:15 PM
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Some people live in such a level of fear that no lock or combination is enough for them. There is nothing that is enough.

Just change/fix the lock. Otherwise you'll likely never stop providing one thing after another for this person.

Perhaps their best option is to live where they feel safest, if there is any such place. --75.7.xx.xx




Lock jammed just now (by del [MD]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2021 9:21 PM
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How about a new Simplisafe system? Easy to install and the $150 cost beats a vacancy. --157.204.xxx.xxx




Lock jammed just now (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2021 10:14 PM
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I had a similar situation with a 1930's front door lock that matches all of the apartment's door locks, antique. My issue was the tenant having wet hands and inserting a wet key caused the graphite to solidify. The cylinder wouldn't turn. I had to spray the inside the key hole to loosen it so I could open the door. Then I replaced the cylinder with a one lubricated with a non-graphite oil. --47.155.xx.xxx




Lock jammed just now (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2021 10:16 PM
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I second Simply safe. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Lock jammed just now (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2021 6:19 AM
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i have always hated those door latches that had to be pressed down ever since I was a young child. We had one on our front door, and my little hands were to small to get it opened. Now I have a bit of arthritis, and I am sure Iíd have the same problem occasionally. I use a deadbolt and a passage knob on all exterior doors, and all are keyed the same. One key fits everything, so no fumbling for the right key.

I like motion sensor lighting as an added security feature. I have since realized, I also need to add lights that can be flipped on from inside, so itís lit before they step out, if there isnít one of those as well. ( So, both on the doors!) And, no, not the switch for the motion sensor light. Itís too confusing to get the motion sensor lights working off the switch. I found a nice corded motion sensor light at Home Depot for about thirty five dollars, when a tenantís car was being messed with. Gave me the ability to get additional lighting up very quickly, but inexpensively, especially as we werenít sure about the best location. Nice long cord, too. I have three of them in use now. Just saw last night how nicely the light works where I put it up for a tenantís dog exercise area.

For me, if a tenant wants to add Ring doorbells, or any kind of monitoring system, Iíd allow it, encourage it, but I donít provide it. Iíve added doorbells on a couple of houses just so tenants could swap to a Ring system, if they wish. Anything that has a monitoring system, I would prefer my tenants contract for, so I donít end up as a middleman. --70.92.xxx.xxx




Lock jammed just now (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2021 8:04 AM
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Yes, I am offering Simplisafe and to pay for it and maintain it. Also offering ADT alarm if they want. I don't want to lose this tenant. They actually put one of those door knob jam things on the inside cellar door in the back. I would not have been able to get into heater or my electric box! I nicely said that has to be removed immediately.

I found a locksmith that lists "removing antique locks and replacing" right on his website. He is in an old town nearby in PA. I am calling him this morning as he has Saturday hours. So I will also add a ring doorbell. All this seems to have arisen after I asked to enter with the fire inspector for the yearly inspection. They have a new cat and were afraid it would get out and canceled a trip to be there.

We can get tenants who are "too nice" and not used to any kind of issue. This is a sanctuary state. Most likely these two voted for the person who made it like that. Now they have to live with it. Realized I have two more of these mortice locks and one is on my house. Have not used that door for a long time as it got stuck twice but my locksmith would not replace it just keep fixing it. So new locksmith needed. --108.24.xx.xx




Lock jammed just now (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2021 9:23 AM
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Ok, locksmith coming Tuesday at noon. Wants to epoxy hole in door after removing mortise, and so he says this can take a few days and $400. Funny thing but I did a few of these myself at the rentals in 1990 after dad passed. Slapped a plate on it and plate on the jamb and new knob and good to go. I think the holes had to be enlarged for the knob though. Thirty years ago I don't remember. --108.24.xx.xx




Lock jammed just now (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2021 10:18 AM
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I'd try filling a stuck lock with graphite before I did anything else. If that doesn't fix it, remove it and throw it away. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Lock jammed just now (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2021 8:08 PM
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AllyM,

$400!?!?

My first guess is the new door jamb pinching the system.

We use Houdini lock spray.

Like anything mechanical, locks, handles, etc must be lubricated.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Lock jammed just now (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2021 11:12 PM
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Best option for rentals or personal residence use Grade commercial one deadbolt and passage lock so a key must used to lock door. Grade one is fire rated where can be installed on common hallways. Residential locks are easily broken into along with are not fire rated. A large commercial building will only use grade one commercial locks. Difference in cost is not a lot for lock but repeat labour costs add up where replace once then done. Grade one locks are tested for most cycles before wearing out. Grade two is light commercial but much better then the grade three residential lock. A commercial lock can be mastered keyed where tenants receive six pin keys. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Lock jammed just now (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2021 10:40 AM
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Thank you Robert Ontario. I will ask about that.

Brad there isn't a new jamb, there is a 1950s old fashioned colonial type lock and it has jambed. Guy who is coming understands those and can replace it properly which includes pulling out the 1 x 4 metal box full of junk in there and patching the hole. I just want him to put a plate over the hole. Maybe he can leave it as just a handle and disable the workings. --108.24.xx.xx



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