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Captain - Continues Drama (by Jim [CA]) Oct 26, 2021 8:29 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by plenty [MO]) Oct 26, 2021 8:35 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Oct 26, 2021 8:51 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Nicole [PA]) Oct 26, 2021 8:52 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by RB [TN]) Oct 26, 2021 9:00 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Oct 26, 2021 9:05 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by WMH [NC]) Oct 26, 2021 9:40 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Salernitana [CA]) Oct 26, 2021 11:04 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by JB [OR]) Oct 26, 2021 11:41 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Robert J [CA]) Oct 26, 2021 12:12 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Moshe [CA]) Oct 26, 2021 12:52 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Moshe [CA]) Oct 26, 2021 2:18 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Moshe [CA]) Oct 26, 2021 2:20 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Oct 26, 2021 4:28 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by myob [GA]) Oct 26, 2021 4:36 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Jim [CA]) Oct 26, 2021 4:47 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by JB [OR]) Oct 26, 2021 5:11 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Mick [CA]) Oct 26, 2021 5:59 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Gail K [GA]) Oct 26, 2021 10:16 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Oct 26, 2021 10:37 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Laura [MD]) Oct 27, 2021 12:57 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Roy [AL]) Oct 27, 2021 5:49 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by MC [PA]) Oct 27, 2021 6:41 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Nicole [PA]) Oct 27, 2021 8:50 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Vee [OH]) Oct 27, 2021 11:05 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Oct 27, 2021 11:16 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Oct 27, 2021 10:46 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Jim [CA]) Oct 28, 2021 3:57 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Ken [NY]) Oct 28, 2021 10:41 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Ken [NY]) Oct 28, 2021 2:00 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by JAC [OH]) Oct 28, 2021 3:26 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Jim [CA]) Oct 28, 2021 5:10 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Laura [MD]) Oct 28, 2021 5:14 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Joe [CA]) Oct 29, 2021 9:02 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Mary [CA]) Oct 30, 2021 9:00 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Oct 30, 2021 9:13 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Frank [TX]) Oct 30, 2021 9:50 AM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 30, 2021 3:22 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Oct 30, 2021 6:19 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Frank [TX]) Oct 30, 2021 8:03 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Oct 30, 2021 10:05 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Joe [CA]) Nov 2, 2021 9:52 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by Pmh [TX]) Nov 3, 2021 6:40 PM
       Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Nov 3, 2021 7:56 PM


Captain - Continues Drama (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 8:29 AM
Message:

Hi Everyone, Jim here from CA. I'm the one who did previous questions about my Army Captain tenant. He's been served with a 30 day notice to move put of my sfh I was renting him (been there less than one year). He's only been there 4.5 months, AND has been a real pain regarding everything...so I don't want him renting from me anymore.

He just text me yesterday and stated he will be out on October 31, and won't be paying his rent until the required November 10, like he's required to do per his 30 day notice. I'm going to take ten days of rent out of his deposit plus the late fee. First of all, text aren't legal proper communications in CA...needs to be in writing via certified/delivered letter.

He further text me people are contacted him at the house regarding renting the house. He says that's harassment. I never gave anyone permission to contact him, as a matter of fact, my zillow ad says "Dont contact or disturb current tenant, drive by only!!!". He claims his attorney says I've violated CA Civil code 1946. I think he is making up having an attorney and he has a code section that doesn't apply anyway. He claims his attorney is writing me a letter, I'm not the least bit worried, am real interested in getting the letter if one is coming though

Well, I was absolutely right to get rid of this guy asap. He was going to be here 2 more years, but I caught on very very quickly to his games.

Your comments are greatly appreciated.

Many of you commented I should contact his Commanding Officer. I NOW think, that's what I am going to do. Any comments on how I should approach that. Thanks everyone

--174.194.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 8:35 AM
Message:

Stay on top of dates. Wait for the letter. Proceed as needed. Keep your knees bent. Go to lunch. Mark the days off the calendar and pray all goes as planned. --172.58.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 8:51 AM
Message:

I'm surprised you're advertising the place already?

I never try to rent the place until the tenant has left, because I've had poor experiences trying that in the past. But I know a lot of people will do this, and with success. But with someone difficult like this it's better to just wait until he's gone. My opinion.

And someone probably did come knock on his door, regardless of what ad said not to do. Most people don't bother reading the rental ad thoroughly.

--72.188.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 8:52 AM
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I think you're too emotionally invested in a contest of wills between you and this guy and are taking everything personally. Who cares what he does? Do you what you need to do, ignore what he says he is going to do and move on.

I also think you were wrong in a less than optimal situation of posting the address somewhere. --98.237.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 9:00 AM
Message:

Respectfully, fire your Property Manager. --24.151.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 9:05 AM
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I would NOT go to his Commanding Officer over his complaint about the door knocking. Only if he fails to leave on the move out date or trashes the place.

--72.188.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 9:40 AM
Message:

I never publish an address because people DO go knock on the door, and on the neighbor's door, and bother the person across the street, etc. People are idiots. --108.4.x.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 11:04 AM
Message:

I would take down the advertisement immediately to avoid anyone else possibly associating with the soon-to-be-ex tenant, regarding the property. The tenant is already highly angry about the housing situation. Adding any other people or personalities to the mix could lead to a confrontation.

Best of luck as his tenancy draws to a close. --73.93.xx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 11:41 AM
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A copy of the ad mentioning that the fact that current resident is not to be disturbed should be sufficient to satisfy any half-witted judge that you did your duty. And as any good PM would do, you advertise vacancy coming (of course).

He has to "prove damages." I see nothing here but a desperate attempt to try to get in your head. Carry on Jim. Don't sweat this! --73.25.xx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 12:12 PM
Message:

Military personal have special treatment when it come to a California Tenancy. So do protected classes. So do illegals. Same with people with destructive dangerous animals. Drunks, drug users, etc. It's getting to the point where landlords almost no rights when it come to the protection of other tenants in a multi-family and tenant selection is getting harder to control.

You will have to consult with an expert and "read between the lines". Ejection or not renting to military is a nightmare to get around. --47.155.xx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 12:52 PM
Message:

In response to his letter about CA CCC 1946, send him a letter advising him of CA CCC 1954 and your right to enter to show show to prospective tenants. It wouldnt hurt to also advise him that failure to cooperate with existing law (jncluding 1954) would result in a complaint to his military superior (you could even specify exactly who).

--47.139.xx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 2:18 PM
Message:

In the future, you may find the following lease clause useful:

" As a consideration of this lease, LESSEE agrees that LESSORís right to show the premises to potential tenants before the end of this lease is of paramount importance, and LESSEE agrees in good faith to cooperate fully with such showings of the demised premises to prospective tenants by permitting access whenever LESSOR needs to show the premises and has given appropriate notice, and by refraining from causing any interference whatsoever. LESSEE acknowledges that as a consideration of this lease, any interference with LESSORís showing of the premises shall constitute a material and noncurable breach of this lease, and LESSOR shall have all those rights given to him under this lease by reason thereof as in the case of any other breach of this lease. In the event that LESSEE frustrates LESSORís right to enter to show the apartment to prospective tenants whenever needed and appropriate notice has been given, or interferes with LESSORís showing of the premises in any way whatsoever, then LESSOR shall be entitled to recover from LESSEE damages in the amount of LESSORís rent lost because of LESSORís failure to find a new tenant due to inability to show the premises. All rights given to LESSOR by this paragraph, or any other provision of this lease, may be exercised by LESSOR through such agents or representatives as he may select. "

--47.139.xx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 2:20 PM
Message:

N.B.,

The above was drafted according to CA law.

--47.139.xx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 4:28 PM
Message:

Jim,

Be very careful here. I sense I desire to fuel an argument. Stay cool.

Every word you say or send will be used against you so be professional and stick to the lease. We do not have to reply or respond to every message.

Cancel the ad which requires an address. He will sabatog anyone who comes near.

If the home is occupied I list it as COMING SOON without an address on my website and flyers.

I know the big thing is to get instant turnover but it's really hard to get positive cooperation from an existing resident being elbowed out , even with my hundred dollar bribe. It is my property and my job to get it re-rented. I don't want to risk a resident saying the wrong thing to my good prospect.

Plus The home usually needs some freshening or upgrades. I don't want a good prospect to see a "used" home.

He's leaving by Oct 31 at your request but paying for Nov??

BRAD --174.202.xx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 4:36 PM
Message:

AGAIN with LAW books!!!!!!!! yuk's.

look this guy has been a pain so why add to your PAIN. Get the ad removed and save yourself the grief.

You've heard the term let sleeping dogs lie-- would have been perfect for this iddiott.

He said I'll be out the 31st-- your answer is please leave the keys and your forwarding address. Can you also leave a note that you are voluntarily surrendering the property. Anything left on the premises may be disposed of by management.

THEN shut up. You have 4 days to ride it out. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 4:47 PM
Message:

Hi Brad, the 30 day notice I served him has his last day of occupancy as November 10th, so he will owe me for 10 days rent in November. He's, on his own, stated he's leaving on October 31, so he doesn't owe me rent for those 10 days. He still does because I never agreed to him moving out early on October 31 AND not paying rent for the full 30 days. The house is prestine, my handyman was just inside the house and the military man has only been there 4.5 months. Doesn't need any work at all, maybe very very minor. Will be ready in 1 day, according to handyman. But things can happen during move out. And you are absolutely right, he's looking for a confrontation and argument. He's already talk to the neighbors about what a bad guy I am, they called me. I'm not to concerned about that. I just want him out. Not sure if NOW is a good time to call his Commanding Officer. --174.194.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 5:11 PM
Message:

The mere mention of contacting his superior should be enough to get him to back down. --73.25.xx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Mick [CA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 5:59 PM
Message:

Ignore this PITA. Heís blowing smoke. When my tenants move mid-month. I do an accounting line like: rent owed Nov 1 thru Nov 10 is $X. You have 21-days to return the deposit. I mail my statements out on day 17 with certificate of mailing. --70.163.xx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 10:16 PM
Message:

Most people don't know what harassment is from a hole in the wall.

--73.108.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 26, 2021 10:37 PM
Message:

I agree that he is blowing smoke. But I also agree with MYOB that the goal at this point is to get them out of the unit smoothly. Not do more things to inflame the situation. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2021 12:57 AM
Message:

Contact his commanding officer. I did this in a car accident, where the cops came and said no damage and did not write up the accident. The guy tried to exhort $$$ out of me. I contacted his commanding officer, and never heard from the guy again. --108.56.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2021 5:49 AM
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Contacting his commanding officer is the wrong thing to do. Why? It will only piss him off more and he will want some revenge on his way out the door. Be nice to this A-hole until the day after he moves out. --68.63.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2021 6:41 AM
Message:

Am I understanding that his 30 days is up on 11/10? I am not sure what the monthly lease period is. If he is there past the rental date, I charge for the month unless I can get it rented quicker and then refund the difference. As for people knocking on his door-they do the same if a house is for sale. I can't control the actions of others. Good chance you are allowed to physically show it as per your lease so you are giving people a chance to do a drive by. I tell my people that I need it in writing signed unless I gave the notice-then it is posted with My signature and a picture taken. --73.230.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2021 8:50 AM
Message:

I fail to understand the issue here. You told him to get out. He is getting out. The house is pristine and able to be rerented immediately. You already have folks looking at the place. You did agree to release him early - you told him to go and he is.

What is it you actually want? If you want to milk him for 10 days rent,take it from the security deposit ... Or if the house is perfect as you state and he's gone on the 31st, move on in life.

Here, you give full months notice - not partial months. So if your monthly term prior to now has been the 1st through the 31st, I don't know what November 10 is. If he rented from the 11th of the month until the 10th of the month prior to this time, he doesn't owe anything. --98.237.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2021 11:05 AM
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Pristine is a relative descriptor, wait till the shrimp in the hvac vents begin to smell after 3 months, or the door frames are gouged up from appliance and furniture rubbing, then you will be able to service the unit and perhaps begin advertising a gift horse, but wait until birth of a 3 legged mare before opening the gate to the rodeo. --23.125.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2021 11:16 AM
Message:

Back away, leave him alone, and let him move out. There is no reason to give him any more excuses for confrontation.

Take the extra days rent out of his deposit.

You have to stop anticipating a fight. The tenant hasn't done the wrong yet. He's going, leave him alone, and let him go.

And by the way, you don't contact your tenant's commander unless the tenant has done something really wrong that you can't handle yourself and, as a landlord, you should be able to handle most things that a tenant gets up to without calling in back-up. Calling the commander is for serious grievances, --76.178.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 27, 2021 10:46 PM
Message:

Jim,

I donít know CA law.

My lease is clear: 60 days notice in the form of 2 calendar months only.

Helps clarify exit timing.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 28, 2021 3:57 AM
Message:

Hi Brad,

CA law is very clear, 30 days is calendar days...not the beginning of the month to the end of the month. So, if 30 day notice is given on the 10th of a month in which has 30 days in that month. The tenant's last day of tenancy is the 10th of the next month. Ca is one of the few states that has it in the middle of the month, if it falls that way.

Quick note for Nicole. I didn't agree to release him early, I gave him a 30 day notice, nothing in it says get out asap and your last months rent will be adjusted accordingly. He pays rent per month, 10 days rent totals $1500., not small change. I'm in the San Francisco Bay area. --174.194.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 28, 2021 10:41 AM
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10 days rent totals $1500, so a month of rent is $4500? how does an honest cop afford that much rent? --72.231.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 28, 2021 2:00 PM
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10 days rent totals $1500, so a month of rent is $4500? how does an honest cop afford that much rent? --72.231.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Oct 28, 2021 3:26 PM
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First he is not a cop. He is in the Army. Second the taxpayer is paying for his housing including locality bump. That is over and above his pay, locality pay, health, dental, groceries, clothing allowance, retirement, future college tuition and VA benefits. A good portion of this is tax free as well. --107.77.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 28, 2021 5:10 PM
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Yes, everyone on this forum is paying this guys rent in the form of taxes. San Francisco Bay area, were $4500 for a very large house isn't even an expensive house by bay area standards, it's one of the least expensive houses in the entire area. JAC from OH is absolutely right, he has most, if NOT ALL expenses paid for by the Army. This guy continues to be an pompous arrogant entitled guy, but will be out soon. --174.194.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Oct 28, 2021 5:14 PM
Message:

My son lives in San Fransisco area. He just moved from a 400 sq. ft (yes 400, size of 1 room) studio, with lots & lots & lots of homeless outside on the sidewalks. Rent was $3000 per month. --108.56.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 29, 2021 9:02 PM
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Contacting his commander would be a BS move. Are you a vindictive cop by any chance? --107.77.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Mary [CA]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2021 9:00 AM
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Joe, some people go through life and never learn a lesson, have you....learned anything today??? --174.194.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2021 9:13 AM
Message:

I think Joe has a point.

In almost any other type of job it would be almost unheard of to the get the tenant's employer involved in this dispute. But you do have that recourse with the military.

But I think it should only be used in extreme situations.

How would you like someone contacting your employer and making you look bad, for something unrelated to your job?

--72.188.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Frank [TX]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2021 9:50 AM
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I'm retired military. Military personnel fall under a military code of conduct, on or off base, on or off duty, especially an O-3. He or she should absolutely know better, get a new tenant. Jim is right. --12.200.xx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2021 3:22 PM
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Joe & J: commands do not want their reports causing problems and also creating bad blood towards their squaddies & officers (who should be leading by example) When you are in the military there are different expectations. So YES. contact the base commander. this captain needs to be brought back to poppa / momma. My grandparents, uncles, Dad were senior officers. they would deal with the captain real quick. --107.77.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2021 6:19 PM
Message:

And maybe I would call the CO if I were trapped in a long term lease with this guy but he was on month to month and he's moving out in TWELVE DAYS.

I don't understand some of the responses here that he needs to be "taught a lesson". The only thing I would be concerned about is that he moves out on Nov. 10 with his stuff and that there is no damage. What happens in his future military career is of no relevance to the landlord in this situation. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Frank [TX]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2021 8:03 PM
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Respectfully J (FL), yes, you are missing the point. This tenant, best I can figure from the post, is using his military status and clout at tax payer expense to be a problem child...when he is "required" to act professional at all times. The same as any professional. We "landlords" all know that the best way to determine if a tenant will be a good tenant is to look at past/present behavior. The military needs us, us landlords to rent our well maintained properties to their personnel. If military personnel start being a problem, the military will start seeing a shortage of housing offered to them. This exact problem has actually happened at numerous military installations in the past. So, the military command wants and NEEDS to know about problematic staff. Enough said. --12.200.xx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2021 10:05 PM
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@Frank I'm not seeing where he is using his military status to do anything.

He was an annoying Alpha male and the OP wanted him gone. That part I agree with, I wouldn't want to rent to him either.

However he was given notice to leave and agreed. The place was in good condition. It seemed things would go smoothly. And then the OP placed a rental ad online with the house's address exposed, Which resulted in random people knocking on the door disturbing the tenant. The tenant reacted in an immature but totally predictable way by an empty threat of getting a lawyer.

Unforced error by the landlord. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Nov 2, 2021 9:52 PM
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Good grief the guys place is clean and undamaged and has agreed to leave. Calling his commander would be a dick move. Dirtbag cops would do this when I served as an enlisted man. A couple of my Army buddies had this happen to them. Only vindictive dirtbags would contact his commander. Let him leave and move on with life. --166.216.xxx.xxx




Captain - Continues Drama (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Nov 3, 2021 6:40 PM
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with all due respect Joe, I think officers are expected to be held to a higher standard (?) --107.77.xxx.xx




Captain - Continues Drama (by J [FL]) Posted on: Nov 3, 2021 7:56 PM
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PMH the guy is moving out in a few days. --72.188.xxx.xxx





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