How silly are these managers???? --108.4.x.xxx

Employment rights attorney. --24.151.xxx.xx

The second story is stupid management but your granddaughter’s experience is horrifying. She is lucky to have a grandparent like you that will no doubt make sure she knows her beauty and self worth. She is light years ahead of the people she is working for and has limitless potential vs that restaurant which will not go far and possibly go out of business if those stories became public. --75.67.xxx.xxx

I applied for a part time job at a retail store near my house. They said they are hiring me. They asked what days in Sept and oct was I available to work so they could set up a start date and training. I received an email from the partner who scheduled my training days on the very days I said I wasn't available. When I resent the days I was available and ask for consideration and explained goin forward work days would be a first priority but these two months there were days XYZ already on my calendar. They stopped communicating! Suddenly. Vanished. So yes I agree the employers are part of the problem. Sorry for this young woman's experience, there must be more to the story on their side that they aren't sharing. Crazy times we live in. I don't need a job just thought it would be fun and extra money to pass on for the college kids. Oh well. I too busy anyway.lol --172.58.xxx.xxx

The employers are going to end up getting what they deserve for there stupid actions. --73.120.xx.xxx

6×6 she explained that the restaurant job was to help pay the bills. --72.188.xxx.xxx

I know nothing about college and degrees though. --73.120.xx.xxx

Restaurants are paying well. Plus tips in most cases. It's not so much a low paying job. --172.58.xxx.xxx

They feel they are having to over pay right now. --73.120.xx.xxx

6x6 Dont be impressed by college degrees,they arent as big a deal in many cases as many try to convince us that they are.What you want is specific knowledge meaning knowledge about how to put a deal together and make money --72.231.xxx.xxx

If you can't figure it out, your competitors will. --157.131.xxx.xx

Agreed Ken --73.120.xx.xxx

NO MENTION OF THE UNIV.. A JOKE? DON'T KNOW --166.181.xxx.xx

OPM, I have a PHD. Post Hole Digger --73.120.xx.xxx

Was this the dress code BEFORE she got hired or a manager knit-picking her? --24.152.xxx.xx

Obviously if you work at a dump like Steak and Shake, or Denny's you're not going to do well...but I didn't get that impression that the place WMH referenced is like that. --72.188.xxx.xxx

Obviously, you have never worked in a popular/busy restaurant/bar. The hourly wage from the employer is low, but you can do VERY well with tips. --68.229.xxx.xxx

Tell your granddaughter to think seriously about sticking it out - change her dress code - NOTE - The boss is the boss. learn from the experience. I had all sorts of jobs when I was young. Farming - gas stations - Truck stops - Construction - learned something from everyone of them. Was all the jobs good NO. But it was better than being broke. --184.20.xxx.xx

When I cooked professionally, which I went to college for, many of the restaurants I worked at had very strict dress codes. --24.152.xxx.xx

Not meaning to demean your granddaughter AT ALL! I admire anyone that sticks with it and finishes. Couldn't get either of my kids to finish college. They don't care about the properties either. I don't bother them, still just doing my thing.... --71.219.xxx.xxx

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I had a conversation with a young person yesterday at church. He is about 18 y/o, I am 74 y/o. The only thing I remember about the conversation is he used the word "like" 37 times in a 1 minute conversation. --75.138.xxx.xxx

She is going to be a teacher and is doing her internship (shadow teaching) which should have been completed last year but Covid...so she will get her diploma in December as that was the final step needed. --108.4.x.xxx

When I read the story, I thought it was going to say no nail polish because years ago, I think some restaurants required that, but saying navy wasn’t acceptable but pastel colors are? Saying braids aren’t acceptable when that would help keep hair out of food? I am making assumptions, but those sound like comments that aren’t based on standard written dress code. If she had been given a written dress code ahead of time and the manager professionally pointed out only pastel colored nail polish, no more than 2 piercings and no braids are allowed and she had 3 dress code violations that needed to be corrected, then I don’t believe WMH would have written about it. At the point in the hiring process that the dress code was shared, just like our written leases where tenants can choose to follow or pick somewhere else to live, a prospective employee could choose to comply or find a new job. One of the differences between the employers and us is the managers probably don’t own the business and therefore aren’t making the decisions like we do. We make our decisions based on fair housing laws, what the current market is like, how compromising on qualifications vs staying empty would do to our business, do you want to be right or rich, etc. We are all heavily invested in what we do. Many managers of restaurants and retail are not typically that invested therefore nit thinking about the consequences to their actions. --75.67.xxx.xxx

My advice to her: Stick it out a couple more months, abiding by his rules, and smile as you go home each day with the TIPS. Take mental notes on his good vs bad management skills. Ask yourself WHY are these things said & done? It will help you be a better supervisor of others one day. --68.229.xxx.xxx

Coming from a hospitality background, I can say that appearance and professionalism will go along way in this particular industry Dining out at your favorite restaurant establishment will now become more expensive. Patrons will be pickier as well. I would follow DJ's sound advice. As for employers being silly, there is much liability in hiring employees. Much like being a landlord. Employee and tenant rights trump. --172.56.xx.xxx

Waitressing DOES pay! Same daughter started a PT job at a brewery during college. She is still doing that, three years later, in addition to a FT job, because the tips are so good. Her hubby works there too PT, so that they can buy a house sooner --172.58.xxx.xxx

I would say for the granddaughter to get a side gig TUTORING! There has to be BOATLOADS of tutoring positions open with all these kids flunking out due to remote learning (or shall I say remote CHANCE of learning). --174.208.xx.xxx

In many cases, the reason jobs are going unfilled is because the employers are offering such low pay, that there isn't a reason to take the job. --149.76.xxx.xx

Doesn't have anything to do with what I was talking about, but I agree. --108.4.x.xxx

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx

“career psychologists” are nonsense. when at school in the UK at 13 given a “test” told my path was writing children’s books. here I am now with UK law degree, MBA Finance and very successful in hotel corporate. she is wise to get a tipped job. my wife cocktailed 3 nights a week & paid her rent & expenses while working her way for BA. our rents paid for her MFA. I would suggest she also sees what’s available at local full service hotels. we are flexible with school schedules & are desperate for employees. --107.77.xxx.xx

Ever see the tattoo on a 70 year old? --24.101.xxx.xxx

Ray. I get your point. but the Army & Marines would not sign up recruits with tattoos. Then they did so long as not visible. Now they do if not gang related. I don’t care what tattoos they have. They have signed up to give their lives for us. in business we had the same rules. No tats. but kids have always got tats & now the new (again) reality. At 70 they may regret. but why is that a concern for you or me. We now hire boys with an earring. we now hire girls who have purple hair. They are all part of our society and we need to quit using old fogey perspectives. On side note: my Grandma was a flapper & dyed her hair. You don’t see the colors in b&w pix. I was a punker with green dyed hair when at university in the UK. Am I bad person. No. Was my Grandma a bad person. No. We were expressing our individuality at our young ages. Maybe you didn’t. I have tats of my kids hands on my chest. I am now 62. --107.77.xxx.xx

My only comment is that O wonder if the restaurant is a franchise? They tend to have a stricter dress code, and they also hire "mystery shoppers" to make sure their rules are followed. --76.189.xxx.xxx

Times have changed. --108.4.x.xxx

By "letting go" I meant "letting them quit" when they can't find replacements! --108.4.x.xxx

my initial thought to your narrative is racism. if the manager is enforcing his own dress code, is he signaling out your granddaughter? --100.38.xx.xxx

I say, stick it out for the income, focus on December. --172.56.xx.xxx

was watching the voice last night and something was said that clicked in my head - When the person first sings, the judges can not see their face, or piercing, or tats, or size, or color of skin, they only can judge the voice and the singing, what they are hearing. HOWEVER after that the competition changes now everything is in play - voice, appearance, style, mannerisms, etc. As visual becomes a part of the judge's decision to keep or select over another singer. ANyway perhaps they are just not as busy now and are doing some selection based on comparison. Anyways just sharing. It's tough out there. I feel for her, seems unfair and unjust. Must be some other reason that we'll never know. --172.58.xx.xxx