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Pack Rats n' roaches (by Duplexer [IL]) Oct 15, 2021 10:07 PM
       Pack Rats n' roaches (by Duplexer [IL]) Oct 15, 2021 10:26 PM
       Pack Rats n' roaches (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Oct 15, 2021 11:37 PM
       Pack Rats n' roaches (by plenty [MO]) Oct 16, 2021 7:36 AM
       Pack Rats n' roaches (by T [IN]) Oct 16, 2021 8:09 AM
       Pack Rats n' roaches (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Oct 16, 2021 12:21 PM
       Pack Rats n' roaches (by Vee [OH]) Oct 16, 2021 12:27 PM
       Pack Rats n' roaches (by Scott [IN]) Oct 16, 2021 1:33 PM
       Pack Rats n' roaches (by Robin [WI]) Oct 17, 2021 9:29 PM

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Pack Rats n' roaches (by Duplexer [IL]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2021 10:07 PM
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Senior woman and deadbeat son on disability have lived in apt about 2+ years. They are little trouble and pay rent ontime every month- amazingly even through the Pandemic.

However, they are pack rats and lazy. The house is a mess, and they've taken to stacking garbage bags on the deck outside their door instead of taking it down to the street, because 'he's to weak to carry trash bags, I have a bad wrist', etc.

They've been told no trash on deck but afraid to push it too much or they may start hiding the trash bags IN the apartment.

17 months of Moratoriums and "thank god they pay" forced us to put off doing anything.

Meanwhile, new tenant moves in downstairs and announces they just saw a roach run across the floor and "It came from window side, where they upstairs were taking down bags of trash cans".

What to do? You can't tell people how to live.

Downstairs tenant says she wants 'sprayed before winter'. Exterminator service is expensive. The lease gives recommendations on not leaving food lying around and states all tenants split the fee to exterminate if they bring in roaches- but its hard to pinpoint, bill for that & protests sure to erupt.

Another landlord says just tell them to empty all their drawers & closets & leave for a few hours, and go in and spray. Though again I see these people making a huge deal out of this, having to leave or actually move anything.

Anyone deal with this before?

--162.200.xxx.xx




Pack Rats n' roaches (by Duplexer [IL]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2021 10:26 PM
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BTW my apologies about 'deadbeat son on disability', it just appears this guy (in his 30s) really doesn't seem to have anything wrong with him and could probably work. I think he's actually living off mom's Social Security and she coddles him, insisting he can't do this and that. But its not my problem as long as they pay their rent.

--162.200.xxx.xx




Pack Rats n' roaches (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2021 11:37 PM
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Spraying for roaches never solves the problem where three elements are required for survival which are food, water along with warm place to live. Integrated pest control is eliminating the elements for survival then the roaches are taken out. Failing to keep the rental unit clean is already grounds for eviction where if they leave trash that has food then the roaches are going to be there forever. First start off by eliminating homes where roaches live by chalking all the cracks in the baseboards, kitchen cupboards, bathroom vanities along with using insulation foam where pipes, wires enter floors or walls as the highway is now closed down. Next behind fridge, stove a thorough cleaning then eliminate water source by putting bleach in the defrost pan of fridge along with no standing water or leaky faucets. Roaches only travel around the perimeter of the room where sticky traps will eliminate some right away. Max force or combat gel is only effective if the food source is taken away where if no food source then in a few weeks the roach population slowly goes down to zero. So in the end the tenants shape up or ship out. Nothing survives without the three elements. In the winter time putting anything outside on a cold day or night the live roaches will make a run for it. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Pack Rats n' roaches (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2021 7:36 AM
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Send them more notices. Send them even more paper, post paper notice... Start riding them hard. Ever lease violation you can make stick. Spray for bugs and keep spraying. Do what you can. At some point maybe you can bill the old lady for the bug spraying cost. --172.58.xx.xxx




Pack Rats n' roaches (by T [IN]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2021 8:09 AM
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Need to get rid of them. You will never be able to treat and get rid of the roaches while there is boxes/trash like you described. If you let this slide... renter downstairs will move quickly. --76.77.xxx.xxx




Pack Rats n' roaches (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2021 12:21 PM
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I normally say that pests are the tenants problem, but you, the landlord, have allowed the roach problem to grow unhindered, so this is on you.

Make those tenants clean up or get rid of them. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Pack Rats n' roaches (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2021 12:27 PM
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You need to learn to spray bad tenants, that is where the problem will be no matter how much money you spend down the hallway. Notice of insurance inspection in 7 days, every electrical outlet must be accessible, you will remove the covers and squirt in a drop of roach gel-bait and it will take an hour or 2. --76.188.xxx.xxx




Pack Rats n' roaches (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2021 1:33 PM
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I can tell you from personal experience that you have to correct this behavior immediately. Roaches are bad enough, but once the mice and raccoons discover the smorgasbord, your problems are going to escalate. --107.141.xx.xxx




Pack Rats n' roaches (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2021 9:29 PM
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You absolutely CAN tell people how to live. We have a certain ethnicity of immigrants that rents in our area. Many are fresh out of the camps. They're used to cooking with lots of oil over a propane-fueled burner outside. Those methods don't work on a gas stove inside. We had to replace a furnace because a rat chewed through the wiring harness and it was too old to get a replacement.

We've had to teach our tenants no food left out, put all food waste outside in trash cans with lids, clean the grease off the walls after every meal. They've learned, and the rats are gone. The roaches they keep bringing in. Issue a notice. If they don't comply, they have to leave. Cleaning roach poop off walls will make you burn out on landlording very, very fast... --104.230.xxx.xx



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