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Section8 veterian (by Ted [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 3:48 AM
       Section8 veterian (by kevin [FL]) Oct 13, 2021 5:17 AM
       Section8 veterian (by Pat [VA]) Oct 13, 2021 5:37 AM
       Section8 veterian (by Tony [NJ]) Oct 13, 2021 5:41 AM
       Section8 veterian (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 13, 2021 7:00 AM
       Section8 veterian (by plenty [MO]) Oct 13, 2021 7:22 AM
       Section8 veterian (by S i d [MO]) Oct 13, 2021 8:49 AM
       Section8 veterian (by RB [MI]) Oct 13, 2021 9:01 AM
       Section8 veterian (by tryan [MA]) Oct 13, 2021 9:07 AM
       Section8 veterian (by Robert J [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 9:08 AM
       Section8 veterian (by tryan [MA]) Oct 13, 2021 9:09 AM
       Section8 veterian (by MAP [NY]) Oct 13, 2021 10:39 AM
       Section8 veterian (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Oct 13, 2021 11:03 AM
       Section8 veterian (by WMH [NC]) Oct 13, 2021 11:54 AM
       Section8 veterian (by WMH [NC]) Oct 13, 2021 11:54 AM
       Section8 veterian (by Dave [MO]) Oct 13, 2021 12:39 PM
       Section8 veterian (by Vee [OH]) Oct 13, 2021 6:58 PM
       Section8 veterian (by melinda [MD]) Oct 13, 2021 9:00 PM
       Section8 veterian (by Gail K [GA]) Oct 13, 2021 11:07 PM
       Section8 veterian (by P.B. [MI]) Oct 14, 2021 1:31 AM
       Section8 veterian (by Jim in O C [CA]) Oct 14, 2021 1:35 AM
       Section8 veterian (by mick [CA]) Oct 14, 2021 12:09 PM

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Section8 veterian (by Ted [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 3:48 AM
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Last week when I was open house for my single family rental. A guy came over and told me he is a veteran and housing authority will help pay his rent. Housing can only agree A fair market rent. If the amount is lower than my listing rent, he can sign a contract with me and pay the extra out of his pocket. Is it ok to accept the offer and sign the contract with him. Thanks Ted --73.202.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by kevin [FL]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 5:17 AM
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No --47.205.xxx.x




Section8 veterian (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 5:37 AM
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Order the Section 8 Bible from this website, it is short & easy to read. I have already read 2 volumes, not because I want to do Section 8 vouchers, but just for landlording tips/advice. You need to know what you are getting into. --47.133.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 5:41 AM
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No. I asked a sect 8 person about this once and was told this would be fraudulent. The rent cannot be higher than the contract price even if the tenant is willing to pay the difference.

Please don't do this. Could get you in a lot of trouble even if the tenant is a really nice guy. --73.215.xxx.xx




Section8 veterian (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 7:00 AM
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Is that the theme song to the TV series COPS that I am hearing in the back ground?

Watcha Gonna Do, Watcha Do when they come for you.......

You can do anything you want to - and all you have to do is pay the price. You question is - is okay if my perspective resident they are alright defraud the federal government, is that okay for me help? --24.101.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 7:22 AM
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I've heard this before too. It seems like they will say what they need to say to get in the unit. Then suddenly the rules will change. But they find it hard to get All's to participate in the program so they lead you down the oath until it's too late to get out of it and your stuck with signed contract that you must uphold and lower rent. Ask the man for a copy of the contract. That will keep him busy for a while; you keep showing your until and get it rented before he can be ready with that paperwork. You can read it plain as day. And no work around ...like I'll buy the washer and dryer from you for the difference each month. No. Don't fall for it. --172.58.xx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 8:49 AM
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As others have said, this is illegal.

The whole idea behind Section 8 is the tenant cannot afford the place without help. That help comes from tax payer funds. So essentially what he's saying is he isn't satisfied with the free help he's getting and wants to do an "under the table" deal with you, getting more than our already generous subsidies are providing him.

I don't do "under the table" deals of any kind. If you've ever worked in a restaurant, you know that going "under the table" is gross. Only gross people and gross deals end up "under the table."

I too am a 23-year Army Veteran. It disgusts me that someone who supposedly once lived the Army values that include "honor" would attempt to cheat the system.

--108.230.xxx.xx




Section8 veterian (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 9:01 AM
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Desperate Tenant(s)

in search of desperate Landlord(s) --24.151.xxx.xx




Section8 veterian (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 9:07 AM
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The trick is negotiate the "fair market rent" to a number you can live with. Accepting $$ above that amount from the tenant in some side deal will get you and them in trouble.

FWIW I had a 3 br with NH Housing as a S8. One kid turned 18 so her certificate dropped to a 2 br. Housing would now only pay the 2 br rate ... the tenant paid the difference. It was WAY more than 1/3 of her income ... housing knew this and allowed it because the fair market rent was higher than they were willing to pay. --72.73.xx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 9:08 AM
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Any side deal with your tenant to pay extra rent is illegal in California. Only Section 8 and the Government are allowed to break the law and put money in their pocket. In technical terms, this is called a Bonus to them. --47.155.xx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 9:09 AM
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..... of course she fell behind and I had to evict ... but that's another story. --72.73.xx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 10:39 AM
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Another vote for no. As a former worker for the Section 8 program back in the late eighties/nineties when they had TWO programs going to subsidize the tenant (and not the bldg) aka the certificate and voucher program, getting the "rest" outside of FMR is a no no. --174.208.xx.xx




Section8 veterian (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 11:03 AM
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A couple of points here:

I won't accept Section 8 for good reason, but that is your personal decision to make

You can not do an under the table deal to get more rent.

Your applicant knows that. There is no way that he doesn't know that. So he is a person who is willing to cheat and game the system. I would consider that to make him a bad applicant. At best he is a cheat. At worst, he will get moved in and then refuse to pay more than the contract price so you won't actually be getting any higher rent; you will get what Section 8 is willing to pay, and you won't be able to get him out.

If you have a Section 8 that offers more, you can write it up so that the price must be revealed to Section 8 and they must approve it. If they won't approve it, the answer is "No". --76.178.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 11:54 AM
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Look at it this way:

The amount Section 8 is willing to pay for him is based on the income he reported to them under penalty of perjury. If he can indeed pay more, then he has lied to Section 8 or he is lying to you.

If he signs a side contract with you to pay more, and then doesn't, what are you going to do? Take him to court and tell the Judge that he failed to commit fraud for you? --50.82.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 11:54 AM
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Look at it this way:

The amount Section 8 is willing to pay for him is based on the income he reported to them under penalty of perjury. If he can indeed pay more, then he has lied to Section 8 or he is lying to you.

If he signs a side contract with you to pay more, and then doesn't, what are you going to do? Take him to court and tell the Judge that he failed to commit fraud for you? --50.82.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 12:39 PM
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Years ago I had a section 8 tenant offer me the same kind of deal. I only qualify for X dollars according to section 8 guidelines, so I can pay you, LL. under the table, the difference.

I called section 8 and was informed that type of payment arrangement will get a section 8 tenant terminated.

Pass. --173.47.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 6:58 PM
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Not following the HUD contract is an easy way to get news coverage, however it will be you against Uncle Sam on the news in a landlord fraud case - they will want all the money paid on a fraudulent housing contract with this person returned to the taxpayers. Unless you have a very good understanding of housing laws Sec8 is not a good place to learn. Let this person go find something from a skilled or seasoned Sec8 Provider. --76.188.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 9:00 PM
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Did this once and ended up evicting.

You will never know if the tenant will go behind your back and tell Housing what you agreed to do. And You will be the loser. --24.233.xxx.xx




Section8 veterian (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 11:07 PM
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This veteran was likely discussing the HUD/VASH program; handled through your local VAMC. Housing provides a certain number of vouchers to be used by homeless veterans; they do the inspection on the property to see if meets their standards but instead of the tenant being assigned a HUD caseworker they work through the VA (typically through the Social Workers department).

The good news (at least through the VA I worked at) the social worker assigned to the veteran closely monitors their behavior and is the person the landlord can contact if there are issues. The goal is for the veteran to work toward being self-supporting (the voucher typically isn't a "forever" benefit) and once this is achieved to voucher is passed on to another homeless vet. The bad news is that it's a federal program and the Housing Authority decides what your rental is worth. And no; you can't accept extra money from the tenant to cover the extra rent. Also many of the homeless vets smoke like chimneys and at least some have other substance abuse issues.

--73.108.xxx.xxx




Section8 veterian (by P.B. [MI]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 1:31 AM
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I have had a very good learning experience. Not section 8 but an assistance program. The woman was over 3 months behind on rent. The lease started on the 19th of the month.

The program paid from the 1st of each month to the 1st. Even though she owed for the 11 days from the previous month the case worker refused to pay for those back 11 days.

I will never rent through an assistance program again.The case workers handle the court proceedings and any meditations while the tenant sits with a smug look on their faces.

And what is in the lease is virtually useless as neither the judge nor the case workers care. Quote: The case worker said "I am not the lease police." Anyway, the bottom line was I opted to take the 3 months rent as I would rather lose a bit of money yet get 3 months in hand.

The best news is she will be moving. --67.22.x.xxx




Section8 veterian (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 1:35 AM
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When in a weak moment when I was considering S-8 I had an applicant try the I will pay you in cash the extra rent. My landlord mentor said No. Another landlord friend did and the applicant reported the landlord to S-8 and he was the guilty party. Never trust a S-8 crook.

--99.23.xxx.x




Section8 veterian (by mick [CA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 12:09 PM
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@PB, I have a tenant that I'm trying to evict now that came via an assistance program -- YMCA. Once they throw the money at you, they don't care about you (LL) or tenant. Never again.

@Ted, I've had success renting to HUD/VASH their vouchers are about $100 more than the regular S8 tenant. I had one caseworker why my rent was $X and I told her, because I said so and that when tenants when move, I raise the rent. --184.176.xx.xxx



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