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Applicant denial (by TJ [FL]) Oct 11, 2021 5:09 PM
       Applicant denial (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 11, 2021 5:20 PM
       Applicant denial (by Robert J [CA]) Oct 11, 2021 5:24 PM
       Applicant denial (by plenty [MO]) Oct 11, 2021 5:36 PM
       Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 11, 2021 5:38 PM
       Applicant denial (by TJ [FL]) Oct 11, 2021 6:56 PM
       Applicant denial (by Jason [VA]) Oct 11, 2021 7:10 PM
       Applicant denial (by Vee [OH]) Oct 11, 2021 7:42 PM
       Applicant denial (by Bonanza [NC]) Oct 11, 2021 8:37 PM
       Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Oct 12, 2021 8:00 AM
       Applicant denial (by TJ [FL]) Oct 12, 2021 8:05 AM
       Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Oct 12, 2021 8:23 AM
       Applicant denial (by plenty [MO]) Oct 12, 2021 10:29 AM
       Applicant denial (by plenty [MO]) Oct 12, 2021 10:30 AM
       Applicant denial (by Jim in O C [CA]) Oct 12, 2021 10:37 AM
       Applicant denial (by Jim in O C [CA]) Oct 12, 2021 10:37 AM
       Applicant denial (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Oct 12, 2021 1:00 PM
       Applicant denial (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Oct 12, 2021 1:08 PM
       Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 12, 2021 5:34 PM
       Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 12, 2021 5:37 PM
       Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Oct 12, 2021 6:15 PM
       Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 12, 2021 6:33 PM
       Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Oct 12, 2021 6:41 PM
       Applicant denial (by RentsDue [MA]) Oct 12, 2021 6:43 PM
       Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 13, 2021 6:15 PM
       Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Oct 14, 2021 2:39 PM
       Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 14, 2021 6:00 PM
       Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Oct 14, 2021 7:11 PM
       Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 16, 2021 1:11 PM
       Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Oct 16, 2021 3:31 PM

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Applicant denial (by TJ [FL]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 5:09 PM
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Criteria list was provided at showing, Applicants signed it, filled out an application and paid application fee. I didn’t want to deny them the opportunity to apply- isn’t that a thing? Against the law to deny someone a chance to apply? They don’t qualify. So, do we write, text, or call them with the denial? Do we tell them the owners will be choosing someone else, or do we tell them exactly the 3-4 areas they fall deficient in. An obvious one is that the breadwinner is only on the job one week, the HR person said the probation period is 90 days. Our criteria is to be through your probation period or on your job 6 months. Any advice on denying them, as they will probably throw it back on us, “you didn’t tell us”. …. and want the application fee returned. They are probably shooting in the dark hoping to get into a place, especially a private owner situation. Thanks --76.242.xx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 5:20 PM
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If you used credit to make your determination, then there is a specialized form that you must provide to them so that they can get a free copy of their credit report.

That form should be available by the company that provided you the credit information. --24.101.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 5:24 PM
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If you reject an applicant due to their credit report, then there is a form you must provide them so they can get a free credit report. If you didn't run their credit and that wasn't the factor, then your local City/State may have curtain guidelines.

If you never committed to paper your minimum requirements and had it date and notarized prior to showing your rental, you may be accused of discrimination.

I have my criteria for each property and each unit. For example I have a single no bedroom unit that I limit to two people, also mine are no-smoking units. So if someone shows up with 4 people and smokes, I documented I won't that such a tenancy. --47.155.xx.xxx




Applicant denial (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 5:36 PM
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did you run a credit check? (you can accept the application fee and not run a credit check) But did you run a credit check? --172.58.xx.xx




Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 5:38 PM
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you don’t deny. you have criteria to be met b4 application can be accepted. --107.77.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by TJ [FL]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 6:56 PM
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No credit check was done. No need for it at this point. Other issues are the reasons they don’t qualify yet. Thanks Pham (Tx) - good call.

Robert J (Ca) - do you just go notarize your criteria to cover your butt? Is notarizing your criteria a must in California ? --76.242.xx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 7:10 PM
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“Unfortunately your employment history doesn’t meet our minimum requirements. However, we wish you the best of luck with your search!”

Block them and you’re done. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 7:42 PM
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Same as Jason above me, I use approach like PMH indicated, we can hold this app till we can connect the dots - check back in 5 months and see if the other problems have turned around. --76.188.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 8:37 PM
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I don't tell them exactly why just give them a check mark in front of one of the below categories. Everyone who fills out a complete application and I ultimately deny gets a letter and an email.

Thank you for your recent application to rent one of our homes. We regret to inform you that the application you submitted has been denied for the following reason(s):

Employment / Income – Employment could not be verified, Irregular or temporary employment, Income could not be verified, Insufficient income

Application – Application unsigned, Application incomplete or missing requested documents, False information, Unable to verify the information you provided, No bank accounts listed

Rental History – Could not be verified, Delinquent rental payments, Prior eviction, Disruptive behavior reported, Late rental payments

Credit History – Could not be verified, Unsatisfactory payment history, Collection activity, Bankruptcy, Bad debts, Negative accounts, High debt, FICO credit score ________/ _________

The rental was given to an individual(s) who was more qualified based on our screening standards or completed the required paperwork before your paperwork was finished.

We could not hold the unit for you until your desired date, or until you could meet our move-in requirements.

Your application was denied based in whole, or in part, on information received in a Consumer Report from the following Consumer Reporting Agency:

and then the required verbiage from your credit reporting agency.

--65.188.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 8:00 AM
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Why are you providing them with the criteria? We are not required to give them that in Florida (yet). Does the county/town you live in require you to give them that? --72.188.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by TJ [FL]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 8:05 AM
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To J (Fl): The apartment association I attend recommends a criteria list so that we present the same requirements to each applicant so that we do not get accused of just picking and choosing different standards when different people apply. This protects me, I was advised. How do you pick applicants? --76.242.xx.xxx




Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 8:23 AM
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Oh OK. Personally I would not give them that until the law forces us too.

Here is how I've been doing it:

I do a pre-screening first, via email. I want to try to weed out the Pitbull owners, animal hoarders, people who want to move four months from now, those with insufficient income, etc without ever having to waste time meeting with them. I get their first and last names in the email and look them up on the county clerk to see if they have evictions or felonies, although if they have a common name that doesn't work well.

Then if they get past that, I set up a showing, grouped 15 minutes apart from other showings I'm doing on the same evening.

If they choose to apply, unlike some others who post here, the credit report is the first thing I run. Even though I have to pay for it and mail the letter I prefer doing that to checking with employers/landlords first because that can be time-consuming. I find that about 80% of the people don't make it past the credit report. So then I move on to the next applicant/showing. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 10:29 AM
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No credit report run. Simply text them .... At this time we can not offer you the unit. Best to you in your search. (no matter what they ask in a reply, you simply cut and paste that same message back to them) --172.58.xx.xxx




Applicant denial (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 10:30 AM
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They paid an application fee not for a credit report. --172.58.xx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 10:37 AM
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I try not to reject anyone but select the most qualified. Never had a problem using this procedure. Everybody doesn't get an A. --99.23.xxx.x




Applicant denial (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 10:37 AM
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I try not to reject anyone but select the most qualified. Never had a problem using this procedure. Everybody doesn't get an A. --99.23.xxx.x




Applicant denial (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 1:00 PM
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I phone or email: I'm sorry I won't be able to rent you the houses at *location*. I'm letting you know so you won't be waiting and so you can get on with your search. I wish you the best of luck.

Then if you are doing that on the phone, hang up. Don't hang around waiting to have a conversation with them.

I keep a copy of my written criteria and I make applicants read it before they fill out the application and pay the fee. I tell them to read it carefully because I don't want to take their application fee if there is any reason that I can't accept them.

If any rejected applicant wants a reason they can send a request in writing and all I send back is that they didn't meet the written criteria that they saw before they applied. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 1:08 PM
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[[[[[......... isn’t that a thing? Against the law to deny someone a chance to apply?.......]]]]]]

I don't know if that is actually "a thing" but my policy is to allow anyone to apply who wants to apply. No discrimination here at my place. Anyone can apply just like everyone else.

However, most hopefuls get discouraged before they apply simply by letting them know that *whatever it is* might be a problem with their application. They don't want to pay the application fee if they know that *whatever it is* is going to be a problem.

About 75% of first contacts are done at that point after I tell them I do the standard screening things: verify income, check references, check criminal record, check for evictions. I get a lot of calls from losers hoping to find a private landlord who doesn't screen. Learning that I screen stops most of them. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 5:34 PM
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In TX we are required to provide criteria. --107.77.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 5:37 PM
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probably best J to provide list of criteria so to minimize your risk of being sued for discrimination.... --107.77.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 6:15 PM
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Providing that list is not going to protect you if you discriminate. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 6:33 PM
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you are correct J. but so long as abided by is a good defense. that is the point, --107.77.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 6:41 PM
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Or you could just be handing them ammo to use against you by giving them that list, with the way the country and laws are turning anti-landlord. I'll continue doing it the way its been working for me.

--72.188.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 6:43 PM
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Less is more. They already know why they got denied. They don’t really need it spelled out for them that nobody will give them a new place for all the reasons they they are no longer welcome in their old place. If you are not required to give a reason, then any further communication is not in your best interest. It only helps them . --68.191.xx.xx




Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 6:15 PM
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J: it is not “providing ammo” it is exactly showing you have criteria by which everyone is held to. THAT is your first layer of protection. YOU will be crucified if you rely on your own subjective & undocumented criteria. --107.77.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 2:39 PM
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When did I say I didn't have written criteria? --172.58.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 6:00 PM
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apologies if i misunderstood the implications of your statements. do you give a list of criteria (?) --107.77.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 7:11 PM
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I tell them I'm doing a credit check and background check.

--72.188.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2021 1:11 PM
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J: that’s great. but suggest you have criteria..... --107.77.xxx.xxx




Applicant denial (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 16, 2021 3:31 PM
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I do have written criteria. --172.58.xxx.xxx



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