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Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 11, 2021 8:37 AM
       Military Captain (by MC [PA]) Oct 11, 2021 9:54 AM
       Military Captain (by MC [PA]) Oct 11, 2021 9:55 AM
       Military Captain (by Roy [AL]) Oct 11, 2021 10:29 AM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 11, 2021 12:06 PM
       Military Captain (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 11, 2021 12:37 PM
       Military Captain (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Oct 11, 2021 12:52 PM
       Military Captain (by mick [CA]) Oct 11, 2021 2:42 PM
       Military Captain (by DJ [VA]) Oct 11, 2021 4:06 PM
       Military Captain (by Pmh [TX]) Oct 11, 2021 5:48 PM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 11, 2021 7:21 PM
       Military Captain (by Vee [OH]) Oct 11, 2021 7:33 PM
       Military Captain (by gevans [SC]) Oct 11, 2021 7:52 PM
       Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Oct 12, 2021 5:45 AM
       Military Captain (by gevans [SC]) Oct 12, 2021 6:53 AM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 12, 2021 7:23 AM
       Military Captain (by LisaFL [FL]) Oct 12, 2021 2:54 PM
       Military Captain (by gevans [SC]) Oct 12, 2021 3:34 PM
       Military Captain (by J [FL]) Oct 12, 2021 6:58 PM
       Military Captain (by DJ [VA]) Oct 12, 2021 9:05 PM
       Military Captain (by Salernitana [CA]) Oct 12, 2021 9:26 PM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 12, 2021 9:41 PM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 12, 2021 9:41 PM
       Military Captain (by Salernitana [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 1:02 AM
       Military Captain (by J [FL]) Oct 13, 2021 3:12 AM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 4:44 AM
       Military Captain (by J [FL]) Oct 13, 2021 7:48 AM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 12:35 PM
       Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 1:16 PM
       Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 1:16 PM
       Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 1:16 PM
       Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 1:20 PM
       Military Captain (by Mick [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 1:54 PM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 13, 2021 2:58 PM
       Military Captain (by Salernitana [CA]) Oct 14, 2021 3:00 PM
       Military Captain (by MC [PA]) Oct 14, 2021 4:08 PM
       Military Captain (by J [FL]) Oct 14, 2021 7:52 PM
       Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Oct 14, 2021 8:01 PM
       Military Captain (by Mick [CA]) Oct 14, 2021 8:10 PM
       Military Captain (by gevans [SC]) Oct 15, 2021 6:33 AM
       Military Captain (by J [FL]) Oct 15, 2021 7:47 AM

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Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 8:37 AM
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I am renting a sfh to a military family on a month to month rental contract. He is a Army Captain and is very disrespectful to me (his wife too), I'm the owner, on every contact I have with them. He's only been in the house since April 2021 (6 months). I was just going to cancel his contract with a 30 day notice with no reason/explanation given to him. The situation is not fixable. Any thoughts or opinions? --174.194.xxx.xx




Military Captain (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 9:54 AM
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I would not give him a reason only because it tends to start back and forth garbage. A simple "your lease will be terminated on X date." You can't change disrespect. --73.230.xxx.xx




Military Captain (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 9:55 AM
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I don't care what the job title is-disrepect is not tolerated. --73.230.xxx.xx




Military Captain (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 10:29 AM
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I am curious here. Disrespect can mean different things to different people. Can you give more specific details here?

In addition, if you were to end up in court over terminating his MTM, what would you say when the judge asks you for a reason? --68.63.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 12:06 PM
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In California, our landlord tenant law specifically states...we don't need a reason or aren't required to give a reason, if the month to month contract has been in effect for "less than a year" (which it has). My only concern is does anyone know if there is any type of "special provision " for military personnel. This is NOT a case of him being transferred or being sent somewhere quickly. --174.194.xxx.xx




Military Captain (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 12:37 PM
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Military retiree here. SCRA says you have to release a service member from a lease if they receive PCS orders out of the geo-graphic area. Generally speaking, that is considered 50 or more miles from the current duty station. It doesn't address retention of existing housing. The Captain might cry to the housing office and they might ask you for some more specifics, but someone is a bad fit is more than enough information even for them --24.101.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 12:52 PM
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Speak to him in his language. He's used to taking command. So just lay it out - "I'm in charge and you are not". He doesn't get a vote.

I think the odds are 50-50 that he'll stop being the alpha.

--71.233.xx.xxx




Military Captain (by mick [CA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 2:42 PM
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Toss the lot. --184.176.xx.xxx




Military Captain (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 4:06 PM
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(Air Force veteran here)

I agree with Tenant Whisperer, and add "Or do you prefer I contact your commanding officer and you end up with this on your military record?"

With military, you ALWAYS get the commander's name - high up - upon move-in. I hope you did. They generally do not like to be bothered with getting reports that the behaviors of those under them "do not reflect well on the united States Army".

Use that phrase with the tenant, too. Military are expected to act in an exemplary manner both on and off duty, in uniform and out.

Then, if he still won't get in line, non-renew them - and report it to the commander again. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he already has some reprimand(s) in his file. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 5:48 PM
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uncle was a marine squadron commander. occasionally he would get calls from LL about unpaid rent by his indirect reports. he told them to pay up or he would find a reason to kick them out of the corps. all would pay up. --107.77.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 7:21 PM
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Thank you everyone for your great comments. Army Captain will be served with a 30 days termination notice tomorrow. Paper is already filed with our Sheriff's Department. I would have called him, BUT he directly told me he doesn't take my calls unless he feels so inclined to and that he has better things to do...no joke!!! Problem solved. Thanks again everyone --174.194.xxx.x




Military Captain (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 7:33 PM
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The principal investor plans for the property have changed, --76.188.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2021 7:52 PM
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I'd dump him fast. Who needs that in their life?

We rent mostly to military, and have for over 20 years. I've only contacted a commanding officer once in all that time. It got action in one hour that I could not get in the previous 30 days. Never had another problem out of that particular tenant.

ALWAYS get the commanding officer's name and phone number. --158.115.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 5:45 AM
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While a captain does not have all that much weight on their shoulders (sic), they are far enough up the command chain to have developed the command presence, attitude and communication style.

"""The command presence"""" at the extreme is the boot camp drill Sargent we've all seen in movies and tv . Is it possible that this is what you're dealing with and you're being over sensitive ? ?

We've all had to deal with difficult or quirky people in life and in business and many people Can't or wount situationally shift gears .

If this tenant is a good tenant otherwise,......the devil you know may be better than a devil you don't. , ! ! --67.49.xx.x




Military Captain (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 6:53 AM
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"command presence"

What you say definitely has merit. I was Navy enlisted and have been around the military all my life.

My solution: I also project the "command presence". I'm the commanding officer in Golden Rule Properties, the captain of my vessel. Military people get that. Upper level officers treat me as an equal, not an inferior. I do the same to them.

But I try to treat everyone as my equal, not just the ones who think they are superior to me. I'll admit, it's more fun treating the high ranking big head people as equals. --158.115.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 7:23 AM
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Hi Everyone,

In response to Dave from CA. Thanks for your response. I'm in my opinion, NOT being over sensitive or overreacting....the last contact I had with him he "off the wall" told he that I don't look like a Physician. It should be noted....I am a Physician. That was a passive aggressive verbal commitment. I should note, my wife is Psychologist. She schooled me about what a comment like that means coming from a tenant to his landlord, AND it has nothing to do with my profession. It's a dominance power statement, and if you heard his voice inflection, you'd agree. I did the right move in termination. Thanks again. --174.194.xxx.x




Military Captain (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 2:54 PM
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Jim-

Good for you! Let us know how it ends up going. Too often Iíve let jerks who rubbed me the wrong way get away with far too much, always trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. Over time Iíve learned lifeís too short to deal with nonsense and other peopleís personal issues.

I just finally got rid of one of my worst tenants ever. Should have done it years ago. And I didnít even do it, they bought a house after renting from me for eight years. We celebrated their move! Iím still celebrating it!

Never again will I make that mistake. --75.89.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 3:34 PM
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Jim,

good for you! Life is too short to deal with unpleasant people. Some maybe you have to...not this one! --158.115.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 6:58 PM
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Good riddance. Let him go back and live on the base since he can't seem to get along with anyone. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 9:05 PM
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I would still notify the commander.

He deserves something on his record.

And it could be helpful to avoid or resolve an unpaid last month / damages situation. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 9:26 PM
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I'm glad that you filed for a non-renewal of lease. Please share what happens if something odd happens.

Just for good measure, you might store the phone number of a good eviction attorney. It sounds like you are in San Diego. I heard that Dennis Block is good or at least Jim in OC, Moshe, and Dave recommended him. Best of luck!

--107.142.xxx.xx




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 9:41 PM
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Hi Salernitana,

I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've been on the phone with the Attorneys from the California Apartment Association, which I am a member. They reviewed everything and gave a legal opinion that the Captain will be eating cold turkey this Thanksgiving...if he doesn't find a new residence in 30 days. They gave a further opinion I did it exactly by the book in regards to California law and he will be out with no legal recores. I like to think this guy will learn a valuable life lesson here, BUT I know this type of personality AND I will say, he isn't going to learn anything and will continue to make very stupid decisions throughout he's life (and I'm sure in his past). I always treated him with respect and only asked for that in return. Thanks again everyone. --174.194.xxx.x




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2021 9:41 PM
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Hi Salernitana,

I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've been on the phone with the Attorneys from the California Apartment Association, which I am a member. They reviewed everything and gave a legal opinion that the Captain will be eating cold turkey this Thanksgiving...if he doesn't find a new residence in 30 days. They gave a further opinion I did it exactly by the book in regards to California law and he will be out with no legal recores. I like to think this guy will learn a valuable life lesson here, BUT I know this type of personality AND I will say, he isn't going to learn anything and will continue to make very stupid decisions throughout he's life (and I'm sure in his past). I always treated him with respect and only asked for that in return. Thanks again everyone. --174.194.xxx.x




Military Captain (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 1:02 AM
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Dr. Jim, thank you for the correction of the area. I am very glad that other organizations have noted the situation that leans to your favor. I agree with your assessment of the tenant's mindset and wish you well during the process.

Just in case, Todd Rothbard in San Jose is an extremely effective and reasonably priced eviction attorney. Best of luck and take care. --73.93.xx.xx




Military Captain (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 3:12 AM
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"Army Captain will be served with a 30 days termination notice tomorrow. Paper is already filed with our Sheriff's Department."

I'm confused. If it's a M2M tenancy why is something being filed with the sheriff dept? Where I live you just give them at least 15 days written notice to leave on a month to month. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 4:44 AM
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Hi J,

California has 30 days written notice, for this type of legal service. Process Server or Sheriff's Department in California can do it. I choose NOT to do it myself because it will be an argument on the front door step, I'm sure. This way I'm not involved with service, to eliminate any issue there. The filing with the Sheriff's Department is "their" procedure to take the paperwork to the tenant and follow all state legal requirements. Plus, it's a wake up call for Army Captain to have a marked patrol car park in front of the house and uniformed Deputy serve him. Oh...and thank you Salernitana. I'm going to keep that Attorney's name. Have a great day everyone. --174.194.xxx.x




Military Captain (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 7:48 AM
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Jim,

OK thanks -- that makes perfect sense. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 12:35 PM
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UPDATE:

Woke up this morning to have a text from Captain sent at 6:35 AM. I find that ironic because he earlier stated texting him at 8:35 PM was to late and inappropriate. An example of what I'm dealing with.

Anyway, he said he received "my" eviction notice and he will comply. It's actually "his" notice, not mine...lol, but I know what he meant.

He requested an inspection which he will be present for. I know he's legally entitled to this inspection. Any suggestions on when and how to conduct this inspection under this situation?

He states he will be out on day 30, his last legal day.

I guarantee you ONE THING, Ladies and Gentlemen, Captain DIDN'T learn one thing from this entire incident...BUT, I got my house back!!! --174.194.xxx.x




Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 1:16 PM
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Don't be counting' ya chickens yet.

He ain't out yet ! ,! --172.250.xx.xxx




Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 1:16 PM
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Don't be counting' ya chickens yet.

He ain't out yet ! ,! --172.250.xx.xxx




Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 1:16 PM
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Don't be counting' ya chickens yet.

He ain't out yet ! ,! --172.250.xx.xxx




Military Captain (by Dave [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 1:20 PM
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Ooooops .....sorry about the triple tap --172.250.xx.xxx




Military Captain (by Mick [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 1:54 PM
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@Jim, you can have a 3rd party do the pre-move inspection. I have my maintenance guy do mine. --166.205.xxx.xx




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2021 2:58 PM
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Mick thank you for the advice, that's what I was going to do. Only because I know this guy is aggressive and bossy, AND eliminates any further issues. I'm hoping to hire a Property Manager, but it would have to be a stern person because he will walk all over a low key individual. And to Dave, no worries about the double taps. I did the same thing myself, by accident of course. Thanks again --174.194.xxx.x




Military Captain (by Salernitana [CA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 3:00 PM
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Congratulations on having completed the crucial step of removing the tenant. It is telling that he sent a text at 6:45 a.m. I wonder if he would be so unwise as to list you as a reference for his next place..

Please share what happens if the process does not go smoothly. This forum can be an awesome resource for problem solving and support. Best of luck and hope that the next prospective tenant is much more cooperative. --73.93.xx.xx




Military Captain (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 4:08 PM
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Do not bring any money to the walk through. Me, being the jerk, I am would schedule it when he is at work. Moving on Day 30 can show damage that can not be repaired. Make no promises to anything. The goal is always to be able to give back, less work for you. --73.230.xxx.xx




Military Captain (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 7:52 PM
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The good news is he didn't blow a gasket (on the phone with you anyway) when he got the news!

My concern with this walkthrough is sometimes there is damage when when a T moves out that isn't immediately obvious. That's happened to me several times. We are not required to do a walkthrough with the T in my state so I don't know how these events go.

How does it go when hidden damage pops up after the "walkthrough" takes place? Are you still allowed to deduct for it? --72.188.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 8:01 PM
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In CA, we are required to do a walk through, but I believe I can wait until he is fully moved out. That way I will see the house fully and completely. I did make one mistake, he never returned the move conditions sheet to me, because he had not arrived in the State yet. His wife took possession of the house that day. I did have the house completely refurbished prior to move in AND have pictures as condition upon move in. I thought he move in April, but it was 6-1-21, upon me reviewing his contract. Boy oh boy. Lol....that "only" 4 months seemed like 6 or longer, lol. --174.194.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by Mick [CA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 8:10 PM
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@Jim - you should do the walk they at least 2 weeks prior to move out. It will give tenant opportunity repair any damage. --184.176.xx.xxx




Military Captain (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2021 6:33 AM
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Not sure what CA law says, here in SC we can take up to 30 days to refund the deposit with a written itemized list of deductions.

NEVER refund the deposit at the walkthrough, unless CA law requires that.

Congrats on dumping a big headache! --158.115.xxx.xxx




Military Captain (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2021 7:47 AM
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"I did make one mistake, he never returned the move conditions sheet to me, because he had not arrived in the State yet. His wife took possession of the house that day. "

I wouldn't mention the move in sheet issue. Maybe they're forgotten about it.

Just out of curiousity, did you meet these people in person before deciding to rent to them or was it all done via remote? --72.188.xxx.xxx



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