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Screening for shots (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Oct 2, 2021 12:01 AM
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Screening for shots (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:01 AM
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OK gang, this is about our residentsí ability to pay the rent. NO debates about medicine, politics, freedomÖ We get it. Take it elsewhere.

Someone close to me finally got the shot to keep their job or be let go like many others at the employer. Made me realize some of MY residents might lose their job without the shot.

Big companies and federal govt employees, military? are getting fired for not getting the shot.

When we verify employment we ask the employer about the applicantís job outlook.

As a measure to consider the applicantĒs future job stability do you think we can or should ask for proof of shots with the application?

Please, stick with the concept of screening and rent ramifications. Please.

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Otis [IL]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:43 AM
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First thing people will say is that it is a HIPAA violation to ask or release that info blah blah blah. Itís not a HIPAA violation (I work in the medical/insurance field).

Personal opinion, sure ask away. But I doubt you will get anywhere with it.

I donít comment often but read this forum every night. You seem to have all your ducks in a row regarding this business Brad, I would just keep chugging along like normal. --24.245.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 5:21 AM
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No. Itís none of your business. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 5:24 AM
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You mentioned job stability. Nothing is stable anymore. Case in point; last year nurses were heroes, now theyíre the devil for not getting the hokey pokey. They were stable, now theyíre not. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 5:32 AM
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I'd wait for some other (large) landlord to do it first and observe what happens with them, before attempting this myself... --72.188.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 5:33 AM
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But Dunkin Donuts workers are still heroes, NE. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 5:36 AM
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And just an FYI Brad, donít get too comfortable with the lease and screening changes you make. As soon as you feel youíve got this figured out, theyíre going to throw you another curveball. Incase you havenít noticed yet, this is an intentional destabilization of nations and world economies. The Great Shuffling of the Deck. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 6:11 AM
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I think that whether or not a person got the jab misses the mark for screening a tenant willingness to pay, to be employed should their existing employer cut them loose.

--149.76.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 6:36 AM
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Today's job market is uncertain , at best.

If someone can still get sick and spread the bug even after getting the jab, it really makes little difference.

Perhaps it's time to start getting a cosigner'someone who will guarantee the rent more often. --24.180.xx.xx




Screening for shots (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 7:22 AM
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You have a lot of rentals Brad. It seems to me that only a small percentage of tenants would refuse to get the vaccine and get fired from their jobs. Most would back down and get the shot.

On the other hand requiring proof of shot to rent could turn off a larger number of applicants and could create bad publicity in the local news, maybe even a lawsuit. I would not want to be the test case to see what happens when this is implemented. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by FloridaNative [FL]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 8:37 AM
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Sisco nailed it in my opinion. It's the willingness to pay that is the factor you are looking for and the proof of shots doesn't show willingness to pay. All the other criteria: bank accounts, paystubs, W-2's show income and spending patters, potentially savings too. That's a better indicator of capacity to pay. Credit, bank statements and LL verifications show willingness to pay. --104.0.xx.xx




Screening for shots (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 8:55 AM
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Is anything as it appears ? --24.151.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 8:56 AM
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Screening for shots: I'm unwilling to do that because it reinforces that it would somehow be OK to do that. I don't want the guv or my LL delving in to my health history.

Willingness to pay: that is key. --158.115.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 9:14 AM
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None of your business. --73.177.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:11 AM
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Given that objection to the jab can result in one being labeled as a terrorist, and given the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act the terrorists unjabbed will likely be rounded up and housed elsewhereÖ..so, maybe the unjabbed are a poor risk to pay as agreed. --149.76.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:13 AM
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One of my better-recommended tenants is breaking her lease and leaving the beach after less than a year. Just moved here not long ago. I don't know her reasons, doesn't matter, things can happen in anyone's life.

I don't think anyone's job is guaranteed, vaxed or not. And not just because THEY could be fired but because they could quit. --108.4.x.xxx




Screening for shots (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:14 AM
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I disagree with those who say it's none of your business. That question is no more intrusive than most of the other questions on my app. Anti-vaxers are not a protected class. Ask the question. --107.141.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:20 AM
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Nevermind, maybe we should just copy and paste our application questions from the questionnaires that we fill out in doctors' offices: "Have you ever had cancer? Has anyone in your immediate family ever had cancer? Do you take any medication?" After, these items can all affect one's ability to pay rent.

Going forward, I'm going to require a full DNA sequence examination prior to signing on the dotted line. I have an empire to run after all. --73.177.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:24 AM
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From what I've read about several large companies, the loose your job over a jab is being overhyped by the media like most everything else. Several large employers have reported overall stats on the subject and when it's all settled less than 3% are at risk of loosing their job and many of those are being given religious or temporary exemptions. I'd say that's is a pretty normal day in the corporate world. With the current job market, it wouldn't even be a hiccup if someone lost their job and was motivated to work. Offsetting that, most of those not getting the jab have very conservative values so paying the bills would be a high priority. Besides, I like Gevans don't want to encourage the overreach, it tends to encourage society to take it even further. --209.16.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:41 AM
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It's none of my business, so I won't ask.

People lose jobs over all sorts of things that are not their fault; it is not something that can be predicted. There are jobs begging for employees around here, so if they are willing to work and pay bills, they will be back to work within 24 hours.

Tenants get divorces, get pregnant, have medical issues, get arrested, even die. Life happens. The only way to guard against it is to not get into the position where your own finances are ruined if one tenant stops paying.

Although I will add, it seems to make a difference which state your rentals are located in. Right at the moment, I am more grateful than ever that I don't have rentals in Washington state. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:43 AM
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As far as I know, children are still not able to get the vaccine. So requiring every tenant to be vaccinated might get you in trouble with fair housing on the familial status issue. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by LanaI [IN]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:45 AM
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Brad. Your question has no answer. You want to predect dependability and who will survive financially intact. Answer....very few of us. We are living in a time of encroaching chaos with financial upheaval, social upheaval, political instability. What works today will not work tomorrow. I would not ask because I don't think the question has any real predictive value. Personally I feel the jabbed are more medically unstable and the unjabbed more likely to be hauled away in the darkness. I would start shifting your eggs to another basket and develope secondary streams of income to suppliment real estate. --216.23.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:50 AM
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Touche MikeA from TX. Value systems coinciding with unvaxxed. If LLís are going to continue to play Dr and ask about the Fauci Ouchie, ask them WHY also. If itís moral conviction, send them my way. Iíll rent to them. Probably with a discounted deposit too. Convid is an economic war also. --174.198.x.xx




Screening for shots (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 10:52 AM
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I asked my upstairs opera singer tenant if he planned to ge the shot.I needed to rent downstairs after keeping it open during covid lockdown. He said he was and then did so he can now work when other singers are not getting hired. He said he has a couple of "work gigs" coming up. For him that means flying out to CA to sing with an ancient instrument ensemble, the early music of such composers as Byrd. But I am bragging here. My downstairs folks are vegetarians and have not taken the jabs. I did ask them after I told them they could have the unit as they were qualified. I am concerned that one of them could be let go as she works for a company that works with our local state troopers. So right now if you have two almost equal applicants, I would take the one that works for an employer with less than 100 employees, not government work, or someone on a pension and social security. One statistic that came out from Medicare is that 48 thousand people died between getting their first shot and being declared vaccinated which would have take place 14 days later. They didn't make it the 14 days so they are not being reported as having died after vaccination. --108.24.xx.xx




Screening for shots (by Carl [NY]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 11:02 AM
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700,000 dead,so far,.thats more than battle deaths in WW1,WW2,Vietnam, Korean wars combined.

It IS my business if you carriers can infect me or my family.

Your freedom to swing your fists ends at the distance to my chin. --96.236.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 11:08 AM
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Carl, if any of the ďunclean pure bloodsĒ come to rent your units, send them my way. Iím thinking a discounted rent to the unvaxxed could be a long term money maker. Especially if the forever fearful LLís continue to deny housing to normal people. --174.198.x.xx




Screening for shots (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 11:15 AM
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Two thoughts -

if someone were really concerned, I'd say do in person showings. In today's climate, it's easy enough to work into every day conversation, even with a stranger. Lack of local testing sites, how long you waited in line, locally it has also been did you or did you not receive a lollipop ...all conversations to be had with strangers in the lack of 6 foot social distancing requested in check out lines, etc.

I know a chaplain with the army reserves at a rather large regional base. He said the majority of his time is spent filling out exemption forms. He joked that if they removed that exemption we'd be losing half our service members. --98.237.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 11:28 AM
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I will fill my places with these people if they start getting rejected as a common business practice. Shame on all of you. A hard-working man renting a two bedroom house with his wife and they have their third child and need to move and canít find housing big enough because their nosy landlord wants to know if they got poked. And after he gets sick and tired of telling prospect of landlords to mind their own business, he stumbles on NEís listing. And with a wink and a nod I let him know that at least in this regard, he and his family are safe within my house. Then point them to the quote on the Statue of Liberty, ďWith silent lips, Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to BREATHE free. The wretched refuse youíre teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door.Ē --174.198.x.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 11:54 AM
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Brad, just add ďmedical mandates resulting in lost incomeĒ into the lease clause you discussed the other day that turns a 1 year lease into MTM. Then you can cover all your bases and treat everyone Covid-equally. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:10 PM
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I would think those with a long term job history with their employer wonít want to risk losing their job over a COVID shot. So increasing your job stability requirement might be useful.

I donít see what you canít ask:

Does your employer have a Covid shot mandate? Have you complied with that mandate? And decide from there.

Itís definitely smart to have some concerns about it, but typically responsible people continue to be responsible people.

Most marriages that are going to fail-fail by the 8th year. Do you ask for marriage history as an extra precaution? Probably not. We simply canít predict everything. --75.89.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:17 PM
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I think we should also start asking if the man has had a vasectomy and the woman had her tubes tied. Because, you never know. One slip up or one drunk at night and a new baby on the way will certainly rock the financial boat. Where does it end? --174.198.x.xx




Screening for shots (by Carl [NY]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:17 PM
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Yeah NE, I've watched your logic before and things like non answers of getting rid of squatters etc.

I have a neighbor a few houses down from me and he had the same "logic". A few weeks ago this healthy 32 year old was buried. Amazingly right up to his last days he was telling his Drs that it really wasn't COVID he had. His wife finally decided to get the shot, will get their two kids too when its available as she saw it was a horrible way to die.

YOU are the one playing Doctor. But I understand, you can't reason with a sciolist or a sophist. --96.236.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:26 PM
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Carl, based on your assumed numbers that you take off the TV as truth, youíre looking at 700,000 deaths. Right? So divide that by 19 months and divide that by 50 states. Just a little over 700 people per state per month. Thatís not even a blip on the radar. Move on from the Covid hysteria. People die! --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:27 PM
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And also, for you brilliant landlords who decide to start rejecting applicants based on whether they got the shot, just know that if you do this you are no better than those politicians who put the moratoriums in place. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Alan [CA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:47 PM
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I'd like to know how many died from other causes vs. the Wuhan virus during the same time period? --71.198.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 12:55 PM
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When will they start requiring all the illegals pouring into the country to get the clot shot? I'm sure they will be looking for housing as well. I say this as a once LEGAL alien and now naturalized citizen who took the test, paid all the fees, got finger printed, had a background check, had to prove I wasn't on the system, could speak English, etc etc. --174.208.xx.xx




Screening for shots (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 1:23 PM
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Ahhh...Carl NE is right on the money. Biggest causes for me of a broken Lease is breakup of relationship, lost job, oopps pregnancy, and falling of the wagon of their particular addiction. --216.23.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 1:48 PM
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Alan....search All Cause Mortality by Year. This was 17.7% higher in 2020 over 2019. About the same increase as seen in a bad flu epidemic. COVID was the 3rd leading cause of death, but then they were calling everything COVID due to oversensative PCR tests with a 90% false positive rate and increased hospital reimbursement for COVID(those tricky coders). Fatal drug overdoses increased over 300% over 2019. It will take a lot of searching to find true stats, if ever.

I don't think we will ever know.

I do know that since insurance companies stopped paying for autopsies in the 1980's, death certificates became mostly invalid. Whenever I was asked to fill out and sign a death certificate, especially on people found dead at home, I put down atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease. An educated guess as it is leading cause. I was never allowed to say Unknown Causes, Multiple infirmities of Old Age, or (my favorite) terminal cardiopulmonary failure.

Unless you attended a death with a clear diagnosis or had a clear cause like MVA(But how can you rule out a stroke or heart attack while driving) or were allowed to order an autopsy, death certificates are at best an educated guess. --216.23.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Carl [NY]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 2:05 PM
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"Carl, based on your assumed numbers that you take off the TV as truth, youíre looking at 700,000 deaths. Right? So divide that by 19 months and divide that by 50 states. Just a little over 700 people per state per month. Thatís not even a blip on the radar. Move on from the Covid hysteria. People die"

That is so erroneous and illogical that it doesn't even deserve an answer, you would discount it with the same "logic" anyway and a waste of time.

BTW, I don't get my information from TV, I'm guessing you don't either as you pick the news you want to hear from other mis informed people with poor credentials. --96.236.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 2:37 PM
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Carl(NY) and others, perhaps you didn't read the initial post, Brad asked us to stick with the concept of screening and rent ramifications. Please stick to the topic and avoid belittling others and name calling, that doesn't help. --209.16.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 2:44 PM
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Catl, averages. Donít be scared. Youíll be fine. Just like my freedom stops at your nose, your fear stops at others unvaxxed right to housing. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 2:47 PM
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HermanCainAwards

--157.131.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 2:53 PM
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Catl, averages. Donít be scared. Youíll be fine. Just like my freedom stops at your nose, your fear stops at others unvaxxed right to housing. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 3:04 PM
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Maybe Hubba, but even if I do die, I wouldnít want any of you locked down on my account. I wouldnít want your children muzzled, or housing to you loved ones denied. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 3:05 PM
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Just ask them Brad. What difference does it make. Absurdity is the new normal, so go for it. This question is embarrassing to the entire industry. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 3:14 PM
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Brad, It's understandable that you are trying to think ahead and there is that possibility that you mentioned. However, I would agree with others in that people get fired or quit every day for many reasons.

There are so many things at play with all of this and with no set perimeters. We could be changing leases and requirements every week trying to keep up with all of the changes in laws, mandates, politics, ect....

I also try and look at things as if "it were me". Put yourself in the tenants/employees position. What if the government required you to put cameras in your house, car, garages or anywhere you might be. Better yet, what if they wanted to mark you with the number of the beast. There are certain things that would reach your limit. Would you want to be required by your grocery stores to show that you had the mark in order to by food? What is the difference? I see none.

--73.120.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 4:25 PM
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Never, would I ask for a vaccine card.

None of a LL's business.

--173.216.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 5:52 PM
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I do agree with Carl that anyone who refuses to take this vaccine is taking chances with their own life. Frankly I don't understand the position of the anti-vaxxers. They're willing to inject unproven substances like ivermectin and HCQ into their bodies but reject a proven vaccine just because someone in authority told them they needed to get it? It is their choice but I believe it's a bad one.

Nevertheless I don't think it's a good idea to ask applicants for proof of vaccine. Where does this end -- do you ask a fat applicant for their bloodwork because you are worried they could have a stroke or heart attack at some point and be out of work? --72.188.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 6:41 PM
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Not all anti-vaxxers inject invermeticin. I have zero fear of Covid. I barely even take Tylenol under normal circumstances, why am I going to take some media vaccine? Iím not even anti-VAX. Iím definitely up to date on my tetanus shots for all the rusty nails I step out of these houses. My kids have all their normal youth shots. Theyíre time tested though. Iím just anti THIS shot. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by carl [NY]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 7:01 PM
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J:

Well,.. I think one difference is that fat person isn't going to spread their cholesterol/triglycerides or whatever to you.

Even a smoker would probably take a long time of your exposure to their smoke to affect you

Its possible that even a short exposure to the virus might affect you EVEN if you have been vaccinated (albeit very small compared to vaxed people.) And then you might be a carrier.

As far as COVID not being a big deal/problem, not much more than other times and over DXed for the COVID money,.. Where are all these people overloading our hospitals are coming from? Why are so many people with needed procedures are being put off because of this now limited resources for them. I see that in my state and area, most hospitals are at their limits with pts beds lined up in halls because there are no more rooms.

Nurses and some Drs are saying they at times they go home and weep because of what they see and how much they feel that they are over loaded with work.

--66.30.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 7:36 PM
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Well Carl, when you mandate a vax and Drs and nurses quit, I guess you can expect some labor shortages at hospitals. More stupid government. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Oct 2, 2021 9:16 PM
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J, nothing unproven about ivermectern. It has been widely prescribed for 40 years HCQ for even longer. That it has been found to be an effective therapeutic for c19 wasnít previously known, but that is how the practice of medicine works. Or that is how it was practiced.

--149.76.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 3:10 AM
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A hearty thanks to those who contributed to management ideas.

Keep the ideas coming. The discussion seems to be peeling away some of the difficulties and getting to realistic solutions.

Remember when smoking in the home was normal? Then society pushed against it and LLs had to figure out how we fit in to that trend?

We MUST adapt to the needs of our times.

Numbers are super high in my town which is another reason to NOT doing showings in person.

I'm liking Lisa FL's concept to ask if their EMPLOYER has mandated shots, and have they complied.

My friend who had to get the shot to keep their job said SHE is the one who has to fire those who don't.

She THEORIZED it might be an insurance issue - the ins co not wanting to accept employees that might need expensive treatment. Think how smokers pay a higher rate.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 6:04 AM
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Sisco, they may be approved for other uses but the talk show host Phil Valentine was taking ivermectin instead of getting the vaccine. And now he's dead. And probably others who did the same thing. I'll stick with the vaccine. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 7:28 AM
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Adapting is one thing. But you cannot deny the controversial aspect of this topic. This is nowhere near the same as smoking. This is medical apartheid. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 8:19 AM
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J, there are a great many more who died from the jab. Trust has been broken.

Check out the effectiveness of the therapeutics in India. A $2.65 kit containing the aforementioned drugs plus some other common therapeutics has had fantastic results.

--149.76.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 10:25 AM
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[[[[[...... Remember when smoking in the home was normal?.....]]]]]

I don't care if people smoke. Their lungs, their choice, and as far as I am concerned they can smoke more and die sooner. It's none of my business.

I don't rent to smokers because they damage my buildings. The damage they do to their own lungs is none of my business, nor do I care about their health choices.

When Covid shots have anything to do with damaging my buildings, I will rethink the issue. Until then, the medical treatments of my tenants are none of my business.... Although, I suppose that is only until their medical treatments require a reasonable accommodation, and then it becomes my business, but still not a reason to reject their application. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 10:43 AM
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Iím signing a lease on Monday with a young single mom. I think before we sign the last page of the document, I might ask her ďBy the way, are your tubes tied?Ē Now, being Iím 6í 4Ē 275 lbs and sheís probably 5í 8Ē and maybe 130 lbs max, should I take a witness?? I wonder how fast I can dodge a slap? --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 11:45 AM
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They are overlooking the people who HAD the covid. I had it before masks and shots were available. My pharmacist friend had it and she will NOT take the jab now. I know I should not. People need to get an easy antibody test so they don't have to risk a jab with a high level of antibodies to the covid. Did you see the woman who lost her fingers and toes and feet after the jab? Blood clots. What is causing the blood clots? Unless someone can tell me, no vax for me. I had the purple covid toes when I had it unknowingly before masks. So I must have had a couple of clots somewhere. I am glad to be here. Spoke to a post office manager this week. She had it before masks also and was hospitalized. Only places she went was work, Shop Rite. So the post office must have been delivering more than just mail. --108.24.xx.xx




Screening for shots (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 3:34 PM
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Yes, the virus itself is directly affecting my rentals in the form of lost income by residents.

One resident family has missed work for MONTHS because they keep passing the virus to each other. Their employers will not let them work if any family member is infected and the whole family has to quarantine for 14 more days after the illness clears. 14 days sick + 14 days quarantine = 28 days, basically a month of income lost.

They have gone thru this 3 times = 3 months of lost income.

The ONLY thing saving them from eviction is our state's Emergency Fund and the former stimulus checks. Took 6 months to see the first state dollar. Who knows how long that fund will last.(I predict this will continue.)

We had 2 families move back with family because their illness knocked out their income.

Another family moved back "to take care of Mom" because she is not fully recovering.

Indirect effect: Moms having to stay home from work because the TEACHER'S AIDE tested positive. The entire class is sent home for a week.

WFH - Work From Home folks can still try to log in some hours but have you tried to Zoom with 2 toddlers sent home from Daycare?

Factory workers are SOL when someone at their child's school tests positive.

I realize the res' shot will not stop the school from sending children home but as good managers we must be aware of what is happening to our res' income.

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 3:36 PM
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PS

I'm talking about what happens inside the rental, not at the employers' place of business.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 3:48 PM
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Brad, it is a problem. The Jabbed contract the virus at a very high rate, boosters, and more jabs are on the way.....I don't see how a LL knowing if the applicant has received the jabbed improves his chances of avoiding the can't work issues.

I do expect full force to be brought to bear against those who choose not to jab, so they may be hauled away. Obviously,unjabbed tenants being relocated to concentration camps will negatively impact LL's. --149.76.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 4:06 PM
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Sisco, I agree 1000%. Except today, unlike the days of old, there is nowhere to flee to to escape the Covid persecution. Thatís ok though, Iíve made my peace with it. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 4:07 PM
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Brad, I am a little confused.

Here, if someone ends up testing positive with COVID and/or is sick, then they must quarantine for 10 days. After that, if they are showing no more symptoms then they are free to go back to work. I think that is the Federal rule. Is what you described something to do with your state?

Also, as Sisco said, there are a lot of people who have gotten the shots getting sick. So, how does that solve the problem?

I think the family example you gave may also be an exception to the rule.

Don't most employers these days require you to use the "WORK" system to verify employment. Most employers these days do not give information verbally. How are you going to be able to get this information?

--73.120.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 4:15 PM
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And I also agree, this may negatively affect landlords entirely. Because this planned demolition is not over yet. It may escalate to the point where it doesnít even matter if you could rent checks anymore. Thatís why I said earlier on in this thread to not worry too much about these new lease clauses. The rules change daily, just ask Fraudci and his new warning about no possible gatherings at Christmas. Ya, ok pal. Stick your tenants on a month-to-month for now and see what shakes out. Because I guarantee if you update your lease, there will be something else that you have to change before the ink is dry. Just like the people who get fired for not taking the vaccine, what difference does it make? And here is why. If you have tenants who are vaccinated, but work at nonessential businesses, what are you going to do the next time they get shut down? Nobody is safe from this. Nothing is stable. Businesses are closing everyday. Your risk of exposure has been magnified since this started. Expect long-term vacancies, expect much more turnover. If you buy rentals during this, Iíd probably double your V/M expectations during due diligence. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 4:22 PM
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Iím also very conflicted with all of this. Because in my personal life, Iím really doing everything that I can to limit my exposure to the pro Covid crowd. I donít interact with them. Iím really not interested in helping anybody whoís supporting this new normal. Iím really surprised and saddened by some of the landlords here regarding this Covid stuff. But I guess it is to be expected, because the draw to this form is such a cross-section of society. Having an illness and getting sick is one thing. Dying is unfortunate. But Being so willing to quickly undo our entire civilization in the name of safety is not only unbelievable, but itís unacceptable from my point of you. It is definitely a schism of sorts. Things are changing very fast and people are parting ways. But like every other time in history, one door closes another one opens. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 4:27 PM
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Bingo ! --199.192.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 4:44 PM
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"Iím really doing everything that I can to limit my exposure to the pro Covid crowd."

NE, I completely understand that, but the pro COVID crowd is growing. --73.120.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 5:20 PM
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6x6, not so much around here theyíre not. Iíve seen several people come into places wearing masks and look around and say, ďYou arenít requiring them in here?Ē And when the answer is no, they take them off. My kind of America. I do see the occasional lone driver in the car with them on or the person at the gas pumps with rubber gloves. Good Lord. They are the real victims of all this. They are hostages until the TV tells them theyíre safe. Them and the poor 2 and 3 year olds in day cares wearing them for 8 hours a day. To them, this is the world. They are so young and now have come to earth seeing the faceless humans as a reality. Itís very very sad what human panic has done. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 5:34 PM
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That is one thing that I like about here where I am as most aren't concerned with it but there are a few. Mainly it seems the school crowd who are concerned.

The Governor here had a mandate to where no one could force you to wear mask, including in schools. The kids parents sued and won. Now they are wearing mask in schools and social distancing and have dividers up. I would hate to be a kid today. These kids will grow up afraid of everything.

These parents are being very selfish and not thinking about what they are really doing to there kids.

--73.120.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 5:43 PM
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6x6, thatís exactly why we pulled our kids out of the district. Itís the Karen soccer moms and the germaphobe teachers that we didnít want our kids exposed to. And boy, was that the right choice!! You should hear the school board meetings, what a blood bath. Kids at our district canít play with their friends during school and are separated by chain link fence. But they play on the weekends and in the evening, go figure. If you want to see something real neat, check out the Covid zombie walk. Google: school students zombie walk. Theyíre doing it in districts around the country. Ours included. What weíre finding is that anything public oriented or state funded, you really need to stay away from. Private entities and private groups is where we focus our time and money now. Most Franchises and city centers are also compromised. Private owned small businesses and rural settings are normal. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 5:44 PM
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Yet the fake deaths and fake total cases continue to rise in TN and PA. You would think your governors would fix that. --157.131.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 5:53 PM
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6x6, I also had a buddy of mine who is fighting the school board ask me to jump on board with him. I told him no way. I said Iíll help people who want to leave the district, but no way will I put energy into fixing a failed system --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 5:55 PM
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Hubba, just wake up? I donít care what the numbers say. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 5:59 PM
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Yeah I know. Science, BS. Medicine, BS. Media Reporting BS. Statistics, BS.

You live in a special world my friend. --157.131.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 6:14 PM
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Iím all for science! Not so much Fauci science, but fifth grade science like the immune system and stuff like that. I like the media, not the main stream media that tries to sell a narrative, but alternative medias where opposing viewpoints are expressed and dissent is not silenced. I also like medicine. Especially after itís been proven effective through a long period of time. But I donít prefer to take it. I prefer to eat things like fresh Dandelions from my yard in the spring for the anti-cancer properties and broadleaf plantain for bee stings stuff like that. As far as statistics go, the saying goes ďlies, d amn ed lies, and statistics.Ē --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 6:21 PM
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5th grade view of how the world works? That checks out. --157.131.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 6:26 PM
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Nope, just the immune system. Easy to forget for the Covid crowd, since it hasnít been address since, well, at all. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 9:03 PM
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I recognize your right to choose NE, so why are you so defensive with other peoples right to choose?

Is there really correct answer?

Instead this is a matter where people who will be successful will adopt to what ever the new standards will be. Did I say I like changes in standards? Nope.

One can be one of the greatest Carburetor repairman around, but with adopting to market changes and changes in standards - we all can join the carb repair man --24.101.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 9:07 PM
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Ray, this is none of a LLís business. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 9:14 PM
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Ray, I want to know how this particular ďadaptationĒ works out for a landlord who tries it. Iíd love to read the dialogue reposted here and the feedback that landlord gets from a tenant when the tenant finds out theyíre getting denied for being unvaxxed. Oh baby. Please report back. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 3, 2021 9:57 PM
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With about 70% of the population vaxed, it appears harder to find someone unvaxed than vax.

Hence the carb example.

If either side judges the other side for behavior, they are wrong by simplify casting judgement.

I someone one wants to use a shot record as the screening tool - sure go ahead. I hope they use income, criminal record, rental history, employment, and credit scores before using it though.

If you think if getting a shot is that big of deal great. I am retired military....it is just a couple of shots. Was it used for political gain from both sides. Absolutely.

I am about choice.

You don't want to follow the science and the masses, there are plenty of folks out there that will still die from this. Just make sure your life insurance is paid up since you have kids. Also leave the family a bunch of pics so they know who daddy was 20 years from now.

I think 30 years from now C-19 will still be here, but it will have the same impact as AIDS does today --24.101.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 4, 2021 8:04 AM
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Ray, anti vax passport protests around the world are quickly becoming riots. Amsterdam is the most recent Iíve seen. Streets of Calgary Canada just filled with people who cooked and brought their own food and ate on the sidewalks in a big impromptu festival to protest the vax passports to enter restaurants? Tons of people participated. How do you think this requirement is going to work out for the average landlord with a rinky-dink apartment? Quite a foolish imposition if you ask me. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 4, 2021 8:12 AM
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Ray, I have to admit that Iím not innocent in this type of screening though. If I go to a Facebook page and their profile pic is wrapped in banner that says ďI got the a Covid-19 VaccineĒ and their page is littered with Convid propaganda, I wonít rent to them. I donít want people like that. So the discrimination is a 2 way street. Brad is protecting his income from a possible lay off and Iím protecting mine from ďone of themĒ. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Oct 4, 2021 11:09 PM
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Around the world vaccine mandates are going to become the norm where as in Ontario 81 per cent is fully vaccinated along with the vaccine mandates are forcing more to get vaccinated. Once at 90 per cent then the remaining 10 per cent can get essential services along with take out at restaurants and other non essential services. In provinces that have low vaccine rates the medical system is being over whelmed along the number of people is dying is increasing. While the new drug to treat will reduce the people dying and time in hospital the long term effects will be there for the rest of there life. Now that polio is behind us we all looking forward to the day when Covid 19 is behind us. Most people want something done about the virus where most do not like the over reach while at the same do not want to get the virus. Rental housing providers are in difficult position to screen out un vaccinated where some have fake certificates. For example I can not drive to the Us but take a flight into the Us where Americans can cross the Canadian land border. We have to wait until this month to see what happens as the province of Alberta is in very difficult shape with low vaccination rates along with high number of virus cases. The remaining 10 per cent in Ontario will continue to refuse vaccination but live with some of problems of not getting vaccinated as essential services will always be open to them. I know people on this street who have refused to get vaccinated. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 1:24 AM
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MY school board is only holding public meetings via Zoom for safety.

On Sat SNL did a skit about school board meetings.

Ray,

I searched and searched to find the ONE guy in my town that knows how to rebuild and tune (dual SU) carbs on my MGB. $800.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 5:55 AM
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Robert, wake up my friend. The people who want to be vaccinated, for the most part already are. The people who donít want to be vaccinated do not care what mandates come out at this point. They could care less! If rental housing providers become required to not rent to the unvaccinated people. I will personally ignore that mandate and begin to not rent to anyone who is vaccinated. Or I will sell. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 10:22 AM
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It is easier to rent based upon a credit report where the norm here is 700 and above as the one out three will have unpaid utility bills which means rent will be a problem. Once 90 per cent is reached those who are unvaccinated will be few and far between. Often if they claim discrimination I tell them to fix there negative credit report then reapply where they owe thousands in judgements where that is not possible. The extreme left wing tenancy advocates say they should not allow credit checks based upon need. No way they walk. They often never bring back rental applications. If housing is a right then let some squatters move in the houses that the tenancy advocates own then rent free with free utilities. They are fewer and fewer in the anti vaccine protests where they have to accept the reality where they have essential services. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 10:37 AM
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The anti-VAX protests are picking up all over the world! Find the YouTube channel called live world. They upload vaccine protests from around the world every single day. I donít know why you think that theyíre calming down, because they certainly are not. All Eyes on Australia. Also, 90% vaccinated is a fallacy. You may see it on the news, but no way 90% of the population in any nation is going to be willingly vaxxed. Maybe forced, but not willing. Just yesterday in New York City they held an anti-VAX protest in support of freeing Australia. They tore down a vaccination tent site. Go NYC! If you havenít been paying attention to what is going on in Australia, you should really take a little bit of time and bring yourself up to speed on that tyranny! --174.198.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 1:17 PM
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History. I remember here when the metric conversion process was taking place where at the gas stations gasoline was sold by litre where the imperial gallon was no longer used. A lot of protests but eventually people had to accept that gasoline was going to sold by litre where if had a calculator multiple by 4.54 to convert to imperial gallons. Here it is matter of going down to any pharmacy if want to get vaccinated or stay not vaccinated as long you want. If employed will temporary be laid off then decide to find a employer that does not require vaccinations. Other services will provide take out. At 81 per cent in Ontario it is approaching closer to 90 per cent except provinces like Alberta which is terrible shape. Rental housing is a essential service where if anyone was refused a rental unit that was not vaccinated that would be challenged. Those who are not vaccinated who do not make it will have no problem with funeral services. While most hear do not like the over reach they want to avoid getting the virus. History when anything happens things change forever when during second world war certain freedoms were suspended then changed after the second war was over. Once we get through the crisis then things will change once again. In a democratic country you always the right not to get vaccinated or not use the international metric system. If you go to the hospital or medical services they only use metric system where convert to imperial system to those who want to think in imperial measurement. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 4:46 PM
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Converting gasoline sales is no comparison to mandating a controversial jab. Itís the same argument that the germaphobe throw out regarding the seatbelts vs the masks. One has nothing to do with the other. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 4:52 PM
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Robert go to YouTube and type in ďDriver goes mad after being fired for not taking VseenĒ. This will happen more and more after people have nothing left to lose. What do you think will happen to some rental properties after ďlandlords turned-enforcement arm for the department of healthĒ start denying housing over it? I could see places burned down no doubt. Tread lightly newly anointed LL doctors! --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 4:56 PM
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I think I finally figured out NE's game on this thread. He has been very vocal and mad that the NUMBER of responses posted ups the "star" level next to your name. I think he is posting madly after almost every other post because he's keeping his stars up!

As he has often said - paraphrasing - quantity vs. quality. :) --50.82.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 5:05 PM
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Nope WMH. I wish I had no stars and we all had a rating system instead. A more balanced approach to the quality vs quantity. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 5:12 PM
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Wrong on that one, NE. Jeffrey wants participation and ideas, even if they don't agree with you. If all we had was, "I agree!" or "great idea!" it would be like everyone saying, "I like toast!" I mean who doesn't like toast? --50.82.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 5:14 PM
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Wrong on that one WMH. There are many readers here, many who I have met at the conventions who never post, just read. But a thumbs up or a thumbs down to good advice or bad advice would definitely be beneficial overall. And readers may be more inclined to rate something vs posting a response. Those of us who talk canít help but talk, wink wink. Although, I will admit, you did hold out pretty long on these discussions. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 5:56 PM
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The debate needs to shift to the fact that the vaccines are worthless. They donít even work. As I showed and proved in the other huge thread, in Scotland 89.5% of covid hospitalized in the 60 and over age group for the month of August are fully vaccinated. This is right around the percentage of vaccinated in the 60 and over age group that are fully vaccinated. This raw data shows that the vaccines are useless --107.77.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:01 PM
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Joe, although the fight is fun, itís not going to really matter. When it comes to Covid, people are the news that they watch. Every once in a while, I go behind enemy lines and click on CNNĎs website. It is story after story after story about how the Covid sky is falling. And then you go to MSLSD and itís story after story about the same thing. And then you can go to a different channel and it talks about how much of a hoax it is. Itís just insanity. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:09 PM
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You are correct NE I posted the raw data in hope that some may open their eyes to the absolute corruption in the cdc and the fda. As you say this is a giant Psyop. To me it is a gargantuan crime against humanity --107.77.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:13 PM
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In the other thread when I posted that data I was called stupid, told that I should be ashamed of myself etc etc etc. when I posted the actual government report that person went very quiet. --107.77.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:15 PM
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Yes, it is criminal. Iím more concerned about the people who still believe than I am the virus itself. Because the people who still believe it and unpredictable and will literally do whatever the TV tells them to. They are under a spell. At this point, they will do anything to be safe. Mask, vax, booster, double booster, monthly pill booster. Who knows what else is coming. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:16 PM
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Should read: they ARE unpredictable. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:19 PM
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It is going to be hard for folks to accept that they took a worthless shot with unknown side effects. When these people give me flack I just tell them Iím a proud non GMO certified pure blood --107.77.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:20 PM
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Joe, in all of this, I keep going back to 2nd Thessalonians Ch 2 V 9-12. A great delusion is brought unto them. It really lays this all out. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:25 PM
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I also see what you are seeing. It seems like those that are vaccinated become aggressive and rigid about getting the shot. Iíve been called stupid more times than I can count. And I never bring it up in private conversations but when someone asks me I will politely answer no. If you try to tell them why then the aggressiveness starts. Itís all very strange --107.77.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 6:33 PM
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Joe, itís because it does not register to them how other people can not share in their panic. Iíve never once been worried about Covid. The media lies about so much stuff as it is already, and they want me to just take everything that youíre saying about this is truth. Not going to happen. So we automatically become science deniers and conspiracy theorist and we hate grandma and we are selfish and we donít care about our kids and we are T rum p tards and on and on and on. But donít lose heart Joe, there are more of us than there are of them. We just donít get our time on the TV. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 9:18 PM
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Now all the provinces including Alberta are going to have a vaccine certification process where those who are causing problems in front of hospitals will be dealt with. On main street here seen the number of people at protest go down every week where last Sunday there was only two people. Denmark is starting to return to normal again where the economy is opening up completely. The conservative party in Alberta is calling for leadership review where the premier may be out at the next review. As the fourth wave the curve is flattened where the number of people admitted to hospitals is going down along with deaths are going down. China is a not democratic country where they intended to take over the world where once the people are eliminated then it is matter of getting rid of the bodies. Nuclear war the world is finished. The federal government is going to have a national vaccine certification card or app where the provincial certification is only temporary. As far as rental housing where rental housing is a essential service where asking for a vaccine certification would be discrimination. This is the first people can look forward to the future as Covid 19 cases are going down. I remember the demonstrations from the extreme left wing radicals who wanted the government to nationalize all the rental units in Ontario as that is goal of the socialist. There is not enough money in the provincial treasury to do that. Fifty per cent of the treasury is spent on universal health care every year. --99.236.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 9:37 PM
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Youíll see violence when they make V passports into law. Especially when the people protesting start to get ďdealt withĒ. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by JOe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 9:57 PM
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Yep NE, and that's what the scum politicians and the deep state are counting on so that they can take away even more of our freedoms --76.105.x.x




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 5, 2021 10:01 PM
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Ya but Joe, itís not just here. Youíll see it in many nations. It may even escalate to a multi national conflict. Especially once goods stop flowing due to labor shortages and business shut downs from quarantines, lay offs, quitting over jabs, etc. This is either gross incompetence or deliberate chaos from leadership. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 6, 2021 2:03 PM
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It's deliberate. Remember this term "Order out of Chaos" This is how they will bring in the globalist system of government. --76.105.x.x




Screening for shots (by BRAD 20,0000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 6, 2021 11:59 PM
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Back to the original post..

Today's headline KAISER suspends 2200. Another employer laid off 1409. I suspect many of those have LLs.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Oct 7, 2021 12:20 AM
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I just got a notice from a tenant that she has been laid off. I am wondering if that is why. She doesn't come off as a crazy non vaccer, but in this day of labor shortages getting laid off seems suspicious. --108.56.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 7, 2021 5:25 AM
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Crazy non vaccer? Hmm. Is that the opposite of a crazy vaccer? For every one business that lays off employees over no hokey pokey, I bet thereís 2 not enforcing it that you donít hear about on the news. And besides, BRAVO to those who got laid off!!! Well done standing you ground!! Never sell your soul for a dollar. Never compromise your principles, especially because some politician or employer tells you to. Now go apply at a conservative freedom loving business, youíll be fine. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 7, 2021 5:33 AM
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This lay off nonsense is going to be fun to watch. I have NO SYMPATHY for any business that puts itself out of business for following these BS toothless mandates. If I was a business owner with over 100 employee, Iíd be firing the pro Covid liberals first. --24.152.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Oct 7, 2021 8:33 AM
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Ditto --199.192.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Joe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 7, 2021 8:21 PM
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Yeah I caught that crazy non Vaxxer comment as well. Itís the new authoritarian leftist mentality. Anyone that doesnít agree with me is crazy or bad. Just like you say these type of folks really are unpredictable and will do whatever the TV tells them to do --107.77.xxx.xxx




Screening for shots (by Beth [WI]) Posted on: Oct 10, 2021 3:50 AM
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Brad how will you handle the prospects whoÖ.

Identify as being vaxxed? --47.12.xxx.xx




Screening for shots (by Mike [CA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 11:26 AM
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Fake vax cards are readily available and I wouldn't know a real one if it bit me on my okole. Do we ask for a copy of their vax card? It's a medical record...how do we store and protect that. We have clear obligations for secure storage of social security numbers.

The issue for me is the reason we all screen anyhow. To establish both ability and willingness to pay which derives from honorability. My tenants are solid folks with strong employment in the trades, defense, military disabled, and a few county retirees...the incomes are there and the willingness was established before we tossed the keys. This last year SHOULD have reminded everyone about the crucial importance of a screening as invasive as one might get at a proctologist. Until the covid I considered myself an expert landlord with a firm grasp of the laws I operate under. Not anymore. Going ahead my screenings will go from thorough MOLECULAR. In California they counties have overlays on the state and some cities are intruding as well. The deck is stacked...against me/us. I did not say that 2 years ago.

And next...how do we --172.56.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 14, 2021 11:42 AM
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Another reason that screening for proof is a waste of time, itls because you need to wait for the stuff to make it through the courts. These meaningless mandates should get stopped by the judicial system. Thereís no sense in ruining your reputation as a landlord by rejecting already hard to find good people for not having the Bi de n booster. --174.249.xx.xxx




Screening for shots (by DD [ON]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2021 10:15 PM
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It is personal information. No business of a LL, or government, or an employer. Maybe ask if they have a yellow six sided star? --99.233.xxx.xx



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