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Landlines (by Pat [VA]) Sep 22, 2021 1:22 PM
       Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Sep 22, 2021 1:41 PM
       Landlines (by Pat [VA]) Sep 22, 2021 1:43 PM
       Landlines (by Vee [OH]) Sep 22, 2021 1:45 PM
       Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Sep 22, 2021 3:20 PM
       Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Sep 22, 2021 5:10 PM
       Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Sep 22, 2021 5:13 PM
       Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Sep 22, 2021 5:27 PM
       Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Sep 22, 2021 5:46 PM
       Landlines (by DJ [VA]) Sep 22, 2021 6:55 PM
       Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Sep 22, 2021 7:08 PM
       Landlines (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 22, 2021 7:39 PM
       Landlines (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 22, 2021 8:28 PM
       Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Sep 22, 2021 8:33 PM
       Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Sep 22, 2021 8:53 PM
       Landlines (by JAC [OH]) Sep 22, 2021 8:53 PM
       Landlines (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 22, 2021 9:03 PM
       Landlines (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 22, 2021 9:07 PM
       Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Sep 22, 2021 9:09 PM
       Landlines (by Nicole [PA]) Sep 22, 2021 9:10 PM
       Landlines (by plenty [MO]) Sep 22, 2021 10:13 PM
       Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Sep 22, 2021 10:29 PM
       Landlines (by Small potatoes [NY]) Sep 22, 2021 11:08 PM
       Landlines (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 23, 2021 12:54 AM
       Landlines (by Laura [MD]) Sep 23, 2021 2:59 AM
       Landlines (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Sep 23, 2021 9:54 AM
       Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Sep 23, 2021 10:41 AM
       Landlines (by Still Learning [NH]) Sep 23, 2021 10:56 AM
       Landlines (by Laura [MD]) Sep 23, 2021 11:00 AM
       Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Sep 23, 2021 12:50 PM
       Landlines (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 23, 2021 2:01 PM
       Landlines (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 23, 2021 2:02 PM
       Landlines (by Vee [OH]) Sep 23, 2021 2:10 PM
       Landlines (by Jim [OH]) Sep 25, 2021 10:13 AM
       Landlines (by Nicole [PA]) Sep 25, 2021 10:46 AM
       Landlines (by RentsDue [MA]) Sep 26, 2021 8:09 AM
       Landlines (by Pat [VA]) Sep 26, 2021 8:38 PM
       Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Sep 26, 2021 10:45 PM

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Landlines (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 1:22 PM
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The new people that I found out he lied about working/job, keep asking me about the phone line in the trailer. They are trying to set up internet I guess. She said they keep looking but cannot find it! I advised her that handyman must have removed phone jack when he put some paneling around the wall.

I've told her there is an access panel under the unit, but watch for spiders & snakes! I also strongly suggested that she go ahead & contact the phone company to make sure they have a functional line. I honestly have NO idea when the last working line was in there.

Seems the phone company hands you a modem & you're on your own! We just got the new phone book for our area & it is so thin! Almost everyone has given up their landline, not me, I have to have it. Cell phones have such poor reception & drop calls. --71.219.xx.xxx




Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 1:41 PM
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We haven't had a landline in 12 years or so.

And modems aren't connected to phone lines anymore? --50.82.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 1:43 PM
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My modem has a phone line in the back of it, I have Century link. --71.219.xx.xxx




Landlines (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 1:45 PM
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You are required to offer 1 port for a landline phone so the occupant can dial 911, for all reading this is still a FCC requirement.

I agree internet might be carried on phone wire but most likely using cable or dedicated twisted pair. --76.188.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 3:20 PM
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Like Vee said. The good news is that carrier can provide the jack at the same time they install the service. For a fee. --157.131.xxx.xx




Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 5:10 PM
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You can call 911 from a cell phone? --50.82.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 5:13 PM
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Vee, please point me to the law requiring this? Can't find it. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 5:27 PM
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May be a state law. Working land line connection required in CA. There is no requirement to provide service.

e911 may not be a good option depending on location. --157.131.xxx.xx




Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 5:46 PM
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How do you know the landline is working if there is no paid service? When I've picked up a phone at a place with no paid landline service, it's just dead. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 6:55 PM
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I would also like to read that law.

I was unaware of it.

It would seem more sensible to say you may not prohibit a tenant to install a landline.

If anyone finds it(the law), please post it here. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 7:08 PM
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The telco will tell you when they attempt to connect the service.

You can also use a continuity tester or a tone generator/tester to check the line yourself.

It's just easier if you let the telco do it.

DJ: California Civil Code Section 1941.4 requires a landlord to be financially responsible for installing at least one usable phone jack, --157.131.xxx.xx




Landlines (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 7:39 PM
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My understanding is that once the land line service is disconnected, the law requires the service provider to continue to allow for 911 service for a limited period of time. I think it is either 30 or 60 days.

I am not sure, but I think the same applies to cell service. Either way, I don't see how it would matter if there was a jack in the house for if a new tenant were to move in considering the service provider has most likely already shut off that service.

It must be state specific. I have a land line in my house, that when I discontinued the service, the above was the case. --73.120.xx.xxx




Landlines (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 8:28 PM
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Are we also required to give them the number to 911? --24.101.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 8:33 PM
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Yes. "In case of emergency dial 911" stickers are sometimes required to be fixed to phones.

Mostly on phones connected to business PBXes.

You asked. --157.131.xxx.xx




Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 8:53 PM
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Can't find anything about it. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 8:53 PM
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911 requirements are very state specific. If this is a valid residence upon the service order, most phone companies are required to provide basic phone service. They will typically run any cabling from where ever they need to, to get the service working. The service customer may have to pay for inside wiring if there is no jack or existing wiring in the residence. There is no requirement for basic Internet service from any provider. The residence may or may not be qualified for Internet service. --74.215.xx.xxx




Landlines (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 9:03 PM
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Good one Ray --73.120.xx.xxx




Landlines (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 9:07 PM
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Do also have to provide the number for the operator? --24.101.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 9:09 PM
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It's already on the phone, Ray.

--157.131.xxx.xx




Landlines (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 9:10 PM
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not that long ago youngest grandchild walked into the room hanging her head and kind of mush mouth mumbled, "How do you spell 911?" Phone rang, it was the 911 center. Door bell rang, it was a police officer. --98.237.xxx.xx




Landlines (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 10:13 PM
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What's a jack? Wire? Go wireless... No jacks or cords required. Works at my house. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by hubba hubba [CA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 10:29 PM
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Definitely. Haven't had a land line in 10 years, maybe more. --157.131.xxx.xx




Landlines (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2021 11:08 PM
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I've removed some Jack's and wall mounted connections but many places still have phone wires because they were run along the baseboard and heavily painted. I suppose some could be made to work.

Don't get me started about Verizon discontinuing perfectly fine copper line and forcing people to fios. --24.194.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 12:54 AM
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Oops! I think I landed in another country with a strange language. I hear

PHONE BOOK - a book about phones?

PHONE JACK - to prop up your cellphone?

TELCO - Tell Mr Co what?

.

Call the landline provider and ask them to run a test from headquarters. In MY area they can determine if the wires are broken or damaged leading up to the house. (Squirrels, tree limbs...)

They care for the wires up to the box on the house.

Any interior wiring is the responsibility of the owner.

I THINK some internet is still using phone wires.

Ask your handyman about covered wires. They might be lying about that also, trying to get free labor.

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 2:59 AM
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While this is changing, the 911 & landline requirement is because historically the exact location was not always available from a cell phone (assuming caller did not know/did not give address). Landline phones you can readily know the address where the call is originating. --108.56.xxx.xx




Landlines (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 9:54 AM
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Phone line is required by law in Oregon. It was a real nuisance because tenants would cut the phone jack off the wall, so I was always replacing phone jacks between tenants.

Twice as annoying because I knew hat no one would every use the phone jacks that I had to keep providing.

The lower the income of the tenant, the fancier their cell phone was. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 10:41 AM
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I get the historical reason, Laura, but what about TODAY? I haven't had a tenant have a landline EVER, and we personally haven't for years and years. So even if someone could find an actual phone to plug in (and during an emergency, where are you going to find that? I don't keep one in my hurricane box LOL!) the 911 service on wherever the line is is long gone.

Could someone PLEASE point me to the law that requires this? If it's required, who pays for the service? Providing a jack is one thing - what about the SERVICE? --50.82.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 10:56 AM
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911 can pin point your exact location on a cell. I called in an active gas leak the other week while working on our boat. I didnít know the boatyard address but they figured it out in about 5 seconds from my cell location. --75.67.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 11:00 AM
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911 service is very localized. In some places you can tell the exact address(where to send the police) from a cell phone, in others you can't. That was the reasoning behind the laws. The laws persist in some places because you can still not universally tell the exact location in some place from a cell phone.

Tenant pays for the phone service, just not the house "improvement" (installation of jack).

California law is very clear on this. California Civil Code Section 1941.4 requires a landlord to be financially responsible for installing at least one usable phone jack, with inside wiring in good working order. --108.56.xxx.xx




Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 12:50 PM
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Well of course CA would LOL!

But if tenant never installs service, and they won't, the jack won't work is what I am trying to say. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 2:01 PM
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I still have several phone jacks in my house and an old turquois blue, rotary, bell telephone. I just don't use them.

Good one's Brad --73.120.xx.xxx




Landlines (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 2:02 PM
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It's fun to have around if kids come over --73.120.xx.xxx




Landlines (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2021 2:10 PM
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Well what I found is that this requirement for landline coverage to support 911 services faded out March of 2020, many metro areas now have struggling emergency management -911 centers- since this melted away, you have likely noticed tax increases to pay for more complex emergency service support services and staffing, response time has increased because the caller may know where they are but many times the caller is unsure where they are when they call to report a car jacking at the -marathon gas station- near the 32 busline and catholic church parking lot. --76.188.xxx.xxx




Landlines (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2021 10:13 AM
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Where I am from, no tenants are using landlines. Where am I from you ask? The 21st century. --184.57.xxx.xx




Landlines (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2021 10:46 AM
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I use the land line when I'm in the house. No one ever sounds like they are in a tunnel, underwater, or a dropped call. --98.237.xxx.xx




Landlines (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2021 8:09 AM
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FYI- this coincides with my ankle monitor post. A tenant who asks about a landline is an instant red flag for me. That is required when someone is on house arrest. They arenít letting you call them to check in from a cell phone. ( I gotta get out of the hood). --68.191.xx.xx




Landlines (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2021 8:38 PM
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Nicole (Pa), my thoughts exactly! I cannot hear as well now anyway so I much prefer my landline.

Also, follow up on the disconnected landline & 911:

1. I disconnected our landline at our farmhouse a few years ago, no one lives there now and I'm not in the house that much. But I did pick up the handset and it is still a beep beep beep on the line, not a dial tone but I'm pretty sure it can still be used to call 911. The farm adjoins our house property, my Dad used to live there and my son for a few years. --71.219.xx.xxx




Landlines (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2021 10:45 PM
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Little tip for hearing better on a cell phone: get a headset. A plug-in-to-the-phone headset, not Blue Tooth. Cheap and immediately upgrades the call. I have about 6 pairs sitting around the house, so if I NEED to have a long call (which I hate doing but sometimes you must) I grab my headset. --108.4.x.xxx



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