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personal safety tips (by melinda [MD]) Sep 9, 2021 8:46 PM
       personal safety tips (by Still Learning [NH]) Sep 9, 2021 9:39 PM
       personal safety tips (by DJ [VA]) Sep 9, 2021 9:47 PM
       personal safety tips (by plenty [MO]) Sep 9, 2021 9:58 PM
       personal safety tips (by Still Learning [NH]) Sep 9, 2021 10:06 PM
       personal safety tips (by Richard [MI]) Sep 10, 2021 7:42 AM
       personal safety tips (by WMH [NC]) Sep 10, 2021 9:00 AM
       personal safety tips (by myob [GA]) Sep 10, 2021 9:24 AM
       personal safety tips (by Allym [NJ]) Sep 10, 2021 11:00 AM
       personal safety tips (by RentsDue [MA]) Sep 10, 2021 11:31 AM
       personal safety tips (by Vee [OH]) Sep 10, 2021 11:36 AM
       personal safety tips (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 10, 2021 3:49 PM
       personal safety tips (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Sep 10, 2021 5:53 PM
       personal safety tips (by Robin [WI]) Sep 11, 2021 10:58 PM
       personal safety tips (by WL [CA]) Sep 12, 2021 1:40 PM
       personal safety tips (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 12, 2021 8:52 PM
       personal safety tips (by myob [GA]) Sep 13, 2021 1:49 AM
       personal safety tips (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 15, 2021 8:35 PM
       personal safety tips (by jer [OH]) Sep 15, 2021 8:47 PM
       personal safety tips (by Nellie [ME]) Sep 15, 2021 8:49 PM
       personal safety tips (by Dave [CA]) Sep 15, 2021 8:53 PM
       personal safety tips (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 15, 2021 9:44 PM
       personal safety tips (by Dan Carver [TN]) Sep 16, 2021 1:20 PM
       personal safety tips (by WL [CA]) Sep 16, 2021 7:25 PM

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personal safety tips (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Sep 9, 2021 8:46 PM

This old gal is becoming more cynical and concerned about safety.

Last night around 8:30 our handyman was assaulted and robbed. Left unconscious on the ground near his truck until a lady saw him on the ground and called EMTs. Hit from behind with 2 men working together at the local shopping center. All caught on tape (not that it will matter). He had about $400 on him that was suppose to be used to buy roofing materials. His empty wallet was later discovered behind the grocery store.

This is certainly a reminder to be mindful of others around you.

And the question---- What types of safety measures are you all using these days. Not carrying. Handyman had his weapon in the truck,

personal safety tips (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Sep 9, 2021 9:39 PM

Local police officer attended our landlord meeting today and warned us to be visiting our vacant units because there is an increased theft of metals recently. They had a report 2 guys in an unmarked van put spikes in and were climbing utility poles to steal metal. If a crazy world out there.

personal safety tips (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Sep 9, 2021 9:47 PM

Keep your head up (not down at your phone) and look around.

Be aware of your surroundings.

Lock your doors - car & buildings.

Make sure somebody always knows where you are / who you are meeting.

If you meet a stranger / prospective tenant alone, keep yourself between them and the exit. Don't let them get you cornered to turn your back. Stay alert.

If it ever comes to it (God forbid) have a plan for how you can slow down the attack enough to escape. Ie: Kick them HARD in the crotch & when they bend over swing your elbow HARD into the front of their windpipe. Then RUN!

I hope your handyman recovers quickly.

personal safety tips (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 9, 2021 9:58 PM

Do you think someone saw him receive the money or told a bad friend? This is terrible. Yes I will be more alert. Thanks for sharing.

personal safety tips (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Sep 9, 2021 10:06 PM

For any females, I highly recommend RAD training (Rape Aggression Defense training). It’s free, often sponsored by local police. It teaches how to lessen being an easy victim and a variety of moves if you ever do end up in a bad situation.

personal safety tips (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2021 7:42 AM

That's terrible. He could have been killed.

I think we are going to see a lot more of this, especially that the free unemployment money has been cut off (or at least ended until the govt puts it back on).

It's easy to make after the incident "If only's". Just be aware that this will be increasing all over.

Situational awareness is needed. It's long been necessary and now more so. --24.180.xx.xx

personal safety tips (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2021 9:00 AM

We don't do it for safety, but this past year DH has been showing houses with me (I used do it alone) because of my now-fixed hip issues. He would show the upstairs, I show the downstairs. Everyone is pre-screened of course and masks are required, which shows some cooperation to start with. Not worried about house showings which are in such a tight group it would be hard to pull some shenanigans then.

But DH often works alone and he is more often caught unaware: the chatty neighbor dropping by, the drive-by person who "knows someone who would be perfect for this place when you get it done..." etc. He should probably be carrying.

personal safety tips (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2021 9:24 AM

I carry and have permit to do so.


With that said-- I've sent my people to training prior to them arming. I went along with them and we shoot regularly at my range.

I currently carry a Walther PPQ 9MM but my preferred gun is the Walther 45. The 45 is a stopper but is not the right arm to carry con sealed. Very powerful though. The PPQ 9 I carry a 10 round magazine and keep 2 spare in my door of the truck.

I CARRY EVERYWHERE now-- even when not working on houses.

I've tried some single stack handguns but most don't have the grip Ineed with my larger hands. Also most Walthers can be ambi converted. Since I'm left handed that's important.

My AR 15 is a Stag left hand with 30 round mags-- and I have 6 spare mags--.

As you may have read we are out in SEA getting ready for a cruise. We came back from Bainbridge Isl. And while waiting for Uber ride women homeless person accosted my wife. Someone posted be observant-- which I try to do all the time and I noticed this person right off and warned our group to keep an eye on her that something wasn't right. I was right eventually she headed over and bumped into my wife-- intentionally while rubbing against her shoulder bag. She was looking down the whole time but I was on her like white on rice.

personal safety tips (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2021 11:00 AM

Maryland has been on the news quite a bit lately for crime. Baltimore has been known for bad behavior for a long time. The key words for me are "last night at 8:30". Getting dark early and they are coming out early. They don't get up early so that's the time to go shopping if you can. I go to the supermarket closer to town before 10 AM. --108.24.xx.xx

personal safety tips (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2021 11:31 AM

One more small ( but constantly overlooked) tip. Leave the earbuds at home. Keep the radio off or low when you are working alone. --68.191.xx.xx

personal safety tips (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2021 11:36 AM

Crime is nothing new, this person is very lucky they did not go into her/his truck and steal the weapon you describe, you must be aware of your surroundings at all times - people studying the mobile phone are so far from being able to take care of themselves - well look at over half the car wrecks, electronic distraction is such an easy 200bux traffic stop in my area, must use -one- headphone when driving and talking. A small city very near to me is the home of the seat belt law, they enforce the -park to talk- law on every road with 2 lanes and it is catching on and needs to, one of the big three auto makers has a key that limits speed, volume and disables mobile phone signals altogether for younger drivers.

personal safety tips (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2021 3:49 PM

Just because you carry doesn't mean that you are safe or can defend yourself.

There are even military people (trained killers ) who get killed out here in civilian land sometimes.

It sounds like, in this case, that your handyman was attacked from behind and snuck up on, in which case, if he would have had his gun on him, they probably would have gotten it as well.

personal safety tips (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Posted on: Sep 10, 2021 5:53 PM

This has totally been on my mind A LOT lately. I live in small town Iowa, like less than 5500 people. Normally I dont think twice about things.

A lot of the factories that we have here in town do recruiting from other states. Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama are the ones that come to mind.

I don't know any of these people and have been made to feel uncomfortable a few times and had a current tenant that made me feel very threatened after we gave him notice of non renewal.

Fishstick913 carries pepper spray now. hoping I never have to use it, but I carry it.

personal safety tips (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Sep 11, 2021 10:58 PM

Interesting question. I was visiting my kids who just gifted me with my first grandson. Apparently the neighborhood is a little iffy thanks to a budget motel, and they didn't want me walking the 5 minutes to where I was staying. "We know you're a bada**, but..." I had to laugh. Nobody has ever called me that before! I'm a Sunday School teacher, for goodness sakes!

We have rentals in some pretty sketchy areas, but I've never had an issue. I don't carry, but I do have several years of martial arts training. I chalk my luck up to a) clearly being aware of my surroundings, b) walking like a bada**, and c) guardian angels. I'm sorry, I don't know how I lucked out with mine, but I highly recommend them.

personal safety tips (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2021 1:40 PM

Suggest you get USCCA self defense insurance. Once you shoot or pepper spray an attacker, you will face prosecution. Self defense insurance pays your bail and legal fees and court costs. My policy is about $100 per year for minimum coverage.

personal safety tips (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 12, 2021 8:52 PM

Toss my wallet high and far away.....just enough for me to reach inside the truck door.

Someone is going to be having a bad day

After discharging my weapon call 911 and then my attorney.

I might render aid at that point....then again - I might also be just enough upset to want to look out for others and stand by to point out the bodies.

personal safety tips (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2021 1:49 AM

practice these words:

I was in fear of my life and I thought they would kill me.

I want my Attorney I have nothing else to say.


AND THEN SHUT UP!!!! SHUT UP!!!! SHUT UP!!!!! --66.133.xx.xx

personal safety tips (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2021 8:35 PM



Please tell your handyman we're all pulling for him.

I was attacked by my own handyman years ago.

Curious - caught on what cameras? Sounds like he didn't stand a chance. Wonder if this was random or did they see his cash.

Did they steal any tools? or were they just after the cash? his credit cards?

One take away from you story - no need for cash. Provide a handyperson with a Lowes gift card for the amount needed. Much less flashy than cash.

Some of MY safety habits: I don't go to rentals after dark.

I lock the door when I go inside a vacant building.

Never leave ANY tools in the home, not even a 59 cent screwdriver from BigLots. They will break my new $450 front door to steal that screwdriver.

Supplies are stored out of sight, in closets or a windowless bathroom with the door shut.

Blinds closed with a light on. My helper leaves a radio on all night in the home.

Hope he's OK.


personal safety tips (by jer [OH]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2021 8:47 PM

myob Best advice on this thread.

personal safety tips (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2021 8:49 PM

Timely topic. Yesterday a tenant shot his landlord in Biddeford, Maine. Tenant is being charged with murder. LL had filed for eviction in 2019 for back rent and lease violations, but the case was dropped in September 2020. I’d say he shouldn’t have worked with this tenant.

personal safety tips (by Dave [CA]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2021 8:53 PM

Brad, I agree with your comment about breaking in to steal a screwdriver. So I'm curious about your comment on closing the blinds. Wouldn't it be better to leave the blinds open so they can see there is nothing inside?

personal safety tips (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2021 9:44 PM


Good catch. My helper prefers to leave them fully open so he can drive by and notice if anyone closed them and/or turned off lights to squat and hide.

Vacant: I recommend SimpliSafe moved to each project.


personal safety tips (by Dan Carver [TN]) Posted on: Sep 16, 2021 1:20 PM

On their site, USCAA's minimum coverage is now $300, not $100

personal safety tips (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Sep 16, 2021 7:25 PM

I am grandfathered in at the old rate.

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