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Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ltd [AZ]) Aug 12, 2021 6:10 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by DJ [VA]) Aug 12, 2021 6:34 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Sisco [MO]) Aug 12, 2021 6:47 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 12, 2021 6:59 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 12, 2021 7:02 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 12, 2021 7:10 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 12, 2021 7:13 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Sisco [MO]) Aug 12, 2021 7:16 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 12, 2021 7:18 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Allym [NJ]) Aug 12, 2021 7:30 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ltd [AZ]) Aug 12, 2021 8:34 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ken [NY]) Aug 12, 2021 8:37 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Frank [NJ]) Aug 12, 2021 8:37 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ken [NY]) Aug 12, 2021 8:55 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Paulio [PA]) Aug 12, 2021 9:52 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Mike45 [NV]) Aug 12, 2021 9:56 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by RB [MI]) Aug 12, 2021 10:13 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 12, 2021 10:55 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by MAP [NY]) Aug 13, 2021 5:39 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 6:08 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by myob [GA]) Aug 13, 2021 6:58 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 7:28 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by WMH [NC]) Aug 13, 2021 7:48 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 8:11 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 8:13 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ken [NY]) Aug 13, 2021 8:30 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Tonia [RI]) Aug 13, 2021 9:14 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Scott [IN]) Aug 13, 2021 9:56 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Paulio [PA]) Aug 13, 2021 10:21 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 10:25 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 10:26 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by WMH [NC]) Aug 13, 2021 10:39 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ken [NY]) Aug 13, 2021 10:55 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Paulio [PA]) Aug 13, 2021 11:32 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 11:41 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Jason [VA]) Aug 13, 2021 11:53 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Aug 13, 2021 1:58 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by JB [OR]) Aug 13, 2021 3:23 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 3:34 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Aug 13, 2021 3:36 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by JB [OR]) Aug 13, 2021 3:53 PM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Aug 16, 2021 11:13 AM
       Black Realtor Cuffed (by Wilma [PA]) Aug 16, 2021 12:37 PM


Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ltd [AZ]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 6:10 PM
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Anybody following this one? Black Realtor and Buyers handcuffed and detained for showing a house for sale in a predominately white neighborhood.

Racial profiling much? Supposedly the neighbors thought they were breaking in as someone had broken in previously. And naturally the police instead of asking what's up, immediately cuff them. Then say, "Oops, sorry for the inconvenience." Yeah, sorry for the lifelong trauma.

Wyoming, Michigan, I think says it all...

abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/black-realtor-client-traumatized-by-handcuffing-at-house-viewing-in-michigan

- --47.216.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 6:34 PM
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Instead of halting his home search, maybe he should buy that one and show the neighbors whet nice people they really are. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 6:47 PM
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I saw the pictures posted online. The realtor is dressed in gym attire.

Who would see people unknown to them in gym clothes going inside their neighbors vacant house and not call the police?

What policeman would check the house, find gym clothes wearing people inside claiming to be realtors and not take the to the station?

Poor sartorial choices.

Not racism. --149.76.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 6:59 PM
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Clearly we should only use realtors who will show up in three piece suits with shined wingtips --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 7:02 PM
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I once wanted to see a house the evening before i was going to Japan for a week. My realtor was busy at his high school reunion. So it was that around midnight or 1am we went and checked out the house.

In hindsight I'm glad he's white --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 7:10 PM
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not sure why a suitable white permissable apparel is a requisite to show a house. my daughter’s realtor showed her houses on a Sat while in jeans. oh. He was non white. for sure this was racial profiling. --107.77.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 7:13 PM
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David. you are a rascist. Jeffrey: he needs to be blocked --107.77.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 7:16 PM
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Dressing in business attire when conducting business is good policy for everyone. If this had been a white realtor showing houses while dressed in gym clothes, I am confident , he too would have been cuffed and hauled in. --149.76.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 7:18 PM
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Lol, it's not my fault other people are racist --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 7:30 PM
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Where is the real LTD? --108.24.xx.xx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ltd [AZ]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 8:34 PM
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@ Ally - LOL I'm the kinder, nicer version, who belives in equality for all humanity, and who can generally distinguish between a hoodlum and an under dressed professional. I dislike injustice wherever it is found. :D

--47.216.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 8:37 PM
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I would assume a licensed agent and his buyers standing in the driveway were not acting like punks so the cop jumped to conclusions pretty quickly.Cop pulls in the driveway and they stand there and say hello to him,not acting suspicious i would think the cop would assume there was a misunderstanding,but apparantly not.Show a business card and maybe the ability to open the lockbox and the cop should be on his way but not in that case. I bought a house from the local city and my partner and i did not get a key so he climbed through a window,5 minutes later we had guns pointed at us by the cops,i explained we just bougfht it from the city and apparantly the citys incompetent attorney did not call them to tell them it was sold and they dont have to watch the house anymore for the city,everyone knew the city attorney was incompetent and the cops put there guns away and said just show me your identification --72.231.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 8:37 PM
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If the Realtor did not have a card snd/or his resl estate license on him while conducting biz then thsts a problem --174.206.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 8:55 PM
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Frank,the ability to get into the house by getting a key out of the lockbox or having the key because he stopped at the listing office and picked it up on the way is all the cop needed to know.The cop didnt think,he just acted on what the dispatcher told him a neighbor said --72.231.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 9:52 PM
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Ally, you are correct. This certainly doesn’t sound like the person who has spent year after year advocating for personal safety, self-defense training blah blah blah. Maybe some of you are living under a rock and are not aware of the police officers who are murdered or attacked almost every day. You begrudge the officer his right to remain safe by handcuffing suspicious persons while investigating a call at a previous crime scene?? The entire incident….from the initial 911 call to removing the handcuffs…took 20 minutes. Good grief. That’s wildly outrageous, huh? --174.198.x.xx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 9:56 PM
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I do not know if this was racism or not. I'd need more info.

However, we all have heard of "driving while black" traffic stops. A local Las Vegas attorney, David Lee Phillips, was stopped and cuffed and knocked around, for "jogging while black."

Phillips was in a jogging suit, with reflector tape for high visibility, in a black neighborhood that he had lived in for decades. I do not know why the cops stopped him, but they did. I assume (as Phillips has loudly proclaimed) that it was because he is black, but maybe the cops can show evidence that there had been a crime reported that night in that neighborhood with a description that fit Phillips. I never heard the cops' side.

Phillips filed a lawsuit, but I don't recall the results. The incident was 12 years ago, more or less. Phillips still uses this incident to get clients, and he still loves to tell white attorneys about it. The last time I saw him in court, he explained to me (unsolicited) that the reason why he was wearing a three piece suit in 100+ weather was [launch the story again].

I hope the realtor and his clients can put this behind them. --76.4.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 10:13 PM
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The Realtors car,

matched the description of the car used to rob the

place, earlier.

Protocol was used and everyone made it home.

Next.

--199.192.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2021 10:55 PM
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Why did this situation end peacefully,,procedures were followed and everyone cooperated. --24.130.xx.xx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 5:39 AM
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Doesn't pass the smell test. False flag? --72.231.xxx.xx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 6:08 AM
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"The Realtors car,Matched the description of the car used to rob the place, earlier."

Nope completely different make and model . Don't be a cop if you can't kill a Kia from a Benz --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 6:58 AM
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Just because someone wears a suit doesn't mean their not crooks. Heck look at the bank people and lets not forget politicians.

No matter the color--- when acting as a professional act and dress the part. For me the Realtor when working should have an ID. Same as we require for the gas man tax person power company.

When I show or work on houses I always wear ID Walther PPQ M2 45 or M1 40 just visible below my T sheet line. -- Sometimes in my tool box I keep extra ID PDP M2 9mm.

Not all cops are Tom Sellick some are goober or Barnie Fife! --99.103.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 7:28 AM
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isn't funny how so many people rail against big government , bootstrapped thugs, knocking on your door, but when literal armed agents of the govt harass you for being where you have a right to be ... suddenly the armed agents of the govt are your best friends

couldn't possibly be because of the victims' race! no way! --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 7:48 AM
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We've known our Realtor for decades. He has shown us houses on his way to (and from!) camping trips, family vacations, on his off weekends, etc. He shows up in shorts and flip flops sometimes. We don't care, so do we - we just want to see the house ASAP.

I know when he meets NEW clients he doesn't dress like that and doesn't drive his pickup either, but with us he does. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 8:11 AM
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The part about being a realtor is just a red herring. The individuals in question could have as well been the owner's family or friends that the owner had go over to check on the condition of the house, or they wanted to buy it .

really irrelevant if the realtor had or didn't have good clothes on or realtor ID or cards. --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 8:13 AM
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I had a vacant rental broken into and the water heater stolen. The neighbors would have good reason to call the police because

- people entered by breaking window

- in the middle of the night

- and were hauling away a water heater

did anything remotely like that happen here? nope nope and nope --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 8:30 AM
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David, I am in agreement with you,think about this the cop comes pulling into the driveway and see 3 people there who he is told are breaking in but as he pulls in noone runs away,noone is acting suspicious etc and the first thing he does is puts handcuffs on them? --72.231.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Tonia [RI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 9:14 AM
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Police react improperly, and many seem afraid to do their jobs. I have to admit, having vacant apartments are risky. Being a realtor can be a tough job. --172.56.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 9:56 AM
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I had a similar situation as Ken. Met my realtor at a roachy house in a D neighborhood. No lockbox, so my realtor pried open a window and crawled through to open a door. I was standing outside writing notes on a clipboard when a K-9 cop pulled up wanting to know what I was doing. He said that if I had not been there to explain, he would have stuffed his partner through the window and let him sort it out. Maybe the realtor would have presented his business card to the dog. --107.141.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 10:21 AM
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Tonia - Cops seem afraid to do their job? I wonder why. Being shot, murdered, or indicted for doing that job probably has nothing to do with it.

David & Ken - You guys are just plain wrong on this. There are soooo many stories of cops who have been killed by people who act suddenly without warning. These guys were in cuffs for just a few minutes until it was determined they weren’t a threat. Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to work? Maybe you feel guilty about how some people acted 150 years ago. I don’t know, but you’re acting like white people don’t get handcuffed during on-scene investigations.

--174.198.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 10:25 AM
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No. The way it is supposed to work in free countries, is that police don't handcuff you UNLESS you are a threat.

--50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 10:26 AM
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I have been (wrongly) the target of "on scene investigations". I have never been handcuffed --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 10:39 AM
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Our Realtor has crawled through a few windows for us too... --50.82.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 10:55 AM
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Paulio,If i ever get handcuffed in a similar situation where i am innocent that cop will have an enemy for life,i will cause him more grief than he thought possible.I can hold a grudge forever and be very vindictive.I do not feel guilty about anything that i had nothing to do with.These cops are trained to be robots in many cases,he pulled into the driveway and just starts putting cuffs on guys standing there showing no signs of doing what they were accused of,apparantly he wasnt capable of thinking for himself and realizing that they were not acting guilty and maybe they were not doing what the neighbor was accusing them of. --72.231.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 11:32 AM
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If your residence or one of your rentals got broken into and the cop stopped the guy but let him go because he said he was a realtor, everyone of you would stroke out. --174.198.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 11:41 AM
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The whole point is that this house WASN'T broken into! --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 11:53 AM
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Has anyone watched the video? Cops pull up without seeing any of the individuals. They get in the loud speaker and say “we know you’re in there, come out with your hands up”. The people come out and get cuffed. They stay cuffed until their story was verified. The cops followed protocol. Not everything is racially motivated. --73.177.xxx.xx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 1:58 PM
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I saw that video. Seems a neighbor (trying to be helpful) called 911 reporting that a subject who had broken into the empty house the day before, was BACK. Police responded based on that report. I think there was also a 14 year old son of the guy there too who was also handcuffed. Thank goodness nobody was hurt. Could have been different if everyone wasn't thinking straight.

I keep thinking about being 'swatted' a few weeks back and if I'd responded differently going to the door, who knows what the 6 armed officers might have done? Still trying to figure out who did the 'swatting'. I'd love to thank them properly for scaring the daylights out of me. Neighbors were coming out of their homes thinking something terrible had happened to me. Ugh. --72.207.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 3:23 PM
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Oh boy, I so wanted to let this post go but some of these comments don't deserve to go without argument. And I must say that I'm frankly surprised that some of you veteran LLs are so quick to blame the police and that includes the OP (nearly every sentence being some of the most blatantly argumentative words I've ever seen on this site).

I really expect a story like this to be entirely blown up by the mainstream media and social justice circles but I thought this group was so much smarter than that. Some of you are becoming so "woke" you may never sleep again.

And David, you seem to be incredibly intent upon stoking the flames of racism here, posting one strange comment after another with nearly none passing the smell test.

Let me start off by saying that I worked on cars professionally for 30 years. And while it's true that decades ago many of car models were very distinguishable it is the exact opposite now and has been for quite some time. As a matter of fact hardly a month goes by when we're out driving and we pull up next to or behind a sedan close enough to see the name or emblem, my wife comments how that Mercedes or BMW looks almost exactly like a Camry. And I can't argue that. It's absolutely true that 90 plus percent of today's sedans are indistinguishable from the next. And the Korean and German models are particularly similar. If me as a "car guy" has trouble telling them apart I know you and most cops certainty can't.

I also had a remarkably similar experience with a RE agent showing me a house many years ago. A neighbor called us in to the cops while we were looking at a home for sale. But my agent was quickly prepared to show identification as an agent, and just like here, nobody was arrested, although we were also briefly detained. This is exactly what we expect from them. It sickens me so many quickly turn it in to a race thing. Also, when multiple possible suspects are involved at least one is usually going to be cuffed temporarily as a safety precaution for the officers well being. It seems quite obvious many of you have either never had police as family or friends or you wouldn't be so quick to condemn them for doing their job. --73.25.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 3:34 PM
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I always get a kick out of people who rant and rave about government overreach and regulations, but when armed jackbooted agents of the government harass people, it's fine and dandy.

I see another thread about "burden of proof", well in a free country, the burden of proof is on the police . If someone has not broken into a house , there's no sign of forcable entry, then the police have shifted the burden onto you , the citizen, to provide proof you haven't done anything wrong. That's not freedom --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 3:36 PM
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And for the record, I have rented to four, count em , four cops. One state police, and three city cops.

Some LLs here are on record as refusing to rent to cops. Not me. --50.4.xxx.x




Black Realtor Cuffed (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2021 3:53 PM
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David, somehow I knew it would be you here again first to double down on your wrong-headed thinking. The police did their job professionally and everyone walked away safely. --73.25.xx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2021 11:13 AM
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It is a shame this happened - regardless of race.... even more so now a days.

That said, I am glad it ended peacefully. I am making it a point to make sure I have business cards with me.

Should anyone go into any place without permission? NOPE. But sometimes, it can seem to be part of the job description. I have had to break into my own home before.

If I feel I might be racially profiled, and I am dark colored - especially by the end of summer - it stands to reason that my business cards might be of even more value.

--24.101.xxx.xxx




Black Realtor Cuffed (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2021 12:37 PM
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Our county had an incident 3 years ago when a local black homeowner came home late from a business trip. He was awakened by cops surrounding his home and demanding that he come out with his hands up. It turned out that the white guest of a white neighbor saw a black man entering the house next door at night and assumed that he was up to no good.

The black man is a county judge, and everything de-escalated when one of the cops recognized him. The judge was calm and gracious throughout. I hope that guest got a talking to! --96.227.xxx.xxx





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