Water Heater Brand? (by dino [CA]) Jul 20, 2021 3:58 PM|
Water Heater Brand? (by Deanna [TX]) Jul 20, 2021 4:42 PM
Water Heater Brand? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 20, 2021 5:20 PM
Water Heater Brand? (by RB [MI]) Jul 20, 2021 5:50 PM
Water Heater Brand? (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 20, 2021 7:58 PM
Water Heater Brand? (by Hollis [MA]) Jul 20, 2021 8:44 PM
Water Heater Brand? (by Kevin [FL]) Jul 21, 2021 6:46 AM
Water Heater Brand? (by dino [CA]) Jul 21, 2021 10:14 AM
Water Heater Brand? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 21, 2021 10:29 AM
Water Heater Brand? (by BRAD 20,00” [IN]) Jul 25, 2021 1:37 PM
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Water Heater Brand? (by dino [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 3:58 PM
For gas water heaters, I don't really know if there are regional brands or if they are all available nationally, but for the last few replacements for residential size of 30 gallons to 60 gallons, I have replaced them with Bradford White gas water heater. For commercial size of 100 gallons, I have replaced with American Standard gas water heater.
I know that these have been quality manufacturers in the past, but I was wondering whether other brands might be considered better choices these days.
Yes I am considering the tankless water heater for future replacement of the smaller sizes but have not done so yet.
Any opinions on best choices these days???
Water Heater Brand? (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 4:42 PM
Kind of like how faucets are better on the inside if you get them from the plumbers' supply store, versus the ones you've got in the box stores, it's my understanding there's a similar thing with hwh's. So if you go to your local plumber's supply store and ask them for their thoughts, they can probably give you some pretty good direction on what they carry, and why it's better or different. But it's another thing where source might be more important than manufacturer. --137.118.xx.xxx
Water Heater Brand? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 5:20 PM
In the house using a Takagi natural gas demand water heater where installed in 2005 that never broke down. Demand water heaters are similar to a small mass gas boiler where only hold 3 to 4 litres of hot water. Hard water will cause problems as there is low mass where water heater will become clogged up. In that case vinegar with a small pump to clean out. So if the water is hard then recommend a water softner. It take a small bathroom basin to be filled before there is hot water as the water heater slowly heats up water then from point continuous hot water. May require a 3/4" gas line as there is high Btu output where the burner only fires according to amount of hot water required. If there is a boiler then a indirect hot water tank which has a immersion coil where the boilers heat the immersion coil. Very efficient but more expensive along with long life expectancy. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Water Heater Brand? (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 5:50 PM
Lochinvar 6, 8, 10 year warranties. --24.151.xxx.xx
Water Heater Brand? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 7:58 PM
I've worked on and owned all different brands. Even the best manufacturer can have a bad batch of great 30, 40 and 50 gallon water heaters -- there's not guaranty you'll get a good one. PLUS, even when you buy a 8 year, 10 year 0r 12 year guaranteed model, it is almost exactly the same. The only difference is the label. They charge more for a longer warranty, and for them it's a roll of the dice.
The only way to insure you get a good brand and model, is to properly service the water heater.
A) The supplied plastic drain valve is garbage. To opening is so small that large particles of sediment can never drain through it. You have to replace the drain vale with a proper 3/4 inch full port ball valve with a standard hose fitting. That's round $24.
B) and after you drain the sediment and flush out the tank, you use your pin head camera and view the Anode Rod. If it's bad or chewed up, you replace it. Do so every 3 to 5 years, then you water heater will last over 15 years. I had one last over 35 years.
C) You mark on the water heater with a marker each time drain/flush the unit. Each time you replace the Anode.
Water Heater Brand? (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 8:44 PM
One thing I might recommend, when you first get a water heater maybe hit the screwed in anode rod base with "Blaster," or" Liquid Wrench " etc. Let it sit for a while and then make sure you can unscrew it,..... after you unscrew it, use Never seize ,or a good Teflon gel on the threats and reassemble it. If ceiling height is a consideration ,..you might just buy one of those jointed anode rods so you could get it out when you wanted to. I would then write the date three years in the future on the tank with a perm marker to unscrew it and check it and either replace it at that time or let it go another year or two it will greatly extend the life of the tank in most water areas. --66.30.xx.xxx
Water Heater Brand? (by Kevin [FL]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2021 6:46 AM
Thanks Hollis, what a great tip with the anode base. I am replacing a tank this week. --47.205.xxx.x
Water Heater Brand? (by dino [CA]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2021 10:14 AM
Yes, I always get from plumbing supply rather than big box store. Also I don't rely on what I hear from guy at plumbing supply store as they will usually just favor what they carry if they even know anything. On that issue, here's something that points out just that:
I asked plumber I had been using for many years something about a backflow prevention device. This plumber had done a very good job on simple jobs every time and was ethical businessman. Unfortunately, it turned out he was lacking in knowledge on backflow devices so he asked the completely moronic plumbing supply guy to suggest the parts needed.
There is a type of valve called a reduced pressure backflow preventer. It has the words reduced pressure in the name but it is not a pressure regulator. It is just the technique used to accomplish backflow prevention. The plumbing supply guy and the plumber did not understand this. So when I asked for a separate pressure regulator and a backflow preventer valve, they suggested a device called a reduced pressure backflow preventer which would have left me without out any pressure regulator on a street pressure of over 130. Fortunately, the correct info was right on the website of the manufacturer and easy to understand for a non-plumber like me.
Complete incompetence. I never considered that plumber again for any serious plumbing and I never trusted a plumbing supply guy for any important information.
Water Heater Brand? (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2021 10:29 AM
It is worthwhile to view different videos on You Tube about different products where there are different ways to resolve a problem along how to do things. The water heater which is going a last a long time with the least amount of problems is a indirect hot water tank which is made from stainless steel where there is no consumable anode rod. For a indirect hot water tank will require a boiler or boilers depending on the type of heating. A indirect water heater will last up to thirty years or more. The immersion coil operates at lower temperatures instead of using high temperatures from the bottom of the tank along with less stress. Indirect hot water tanks put out more hot water as boilers have higher Btu output then direct fired hot water tank. In Europe indirect hot water tanks are very common where some cities have a district heating plant or they use boilers. In Europe they do not use forced air heating. Here there many magazines about plumbing and heating products where can good information. Some magazines are online. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Water Heater Brand? (by BRAD 20,00” [IN]) Posted on: Jul 25, 2021 1:37 PM
We only install Bradford White because Consumer Reports ranked them highest / best value AND I lost 5 Whirlpools a few years back when their ignitors had no replacements due to a big lawsuit.
Tankless are not as good as advertised. Each time I check they are expensive to install and must be in the perfect location, not suitable in our cold climate. If you are in warm Cali you could install outside for
Also check your incoming water temp. Tankless raises the water temp by X degrees. Mine is cold enough in winter that tankless would only make the water very warm, not steamy hot.
Check out the review on YouTube by Matt Rissinger / The Build Show.
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