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SFR ADU (by Aaron [CA]) Jul 20, 2021 11:29 AM
       SFR ADU (by Plenty [MO]) Jul 20, 2021 11:54 AM
       SFR ADU (by Aaron [CA]) Jul 20, 2021 12:01 PM
       SFR ADU (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 20, 2021 12:39 PM
       SFR ADU (by plenty [MO]) Jul 20, 2021 1:44 PM
       SFR ADU (by Mike45 [NV]) Jul 20, 2021 4:29 PM
       SFR ADU (by P.B. [MI]) Jul 20, 2021 4:39 PM
       SFR ADU (by Pmh [TX]) Jul 20, 2021 6:14 PM
       SFR ADU (by Jerry [MA]) Jul 20, 2021 6:22 PM
       SFR ADU (by Deanna [TX]) Jul 20, 2021 9:53 PM
       SFR ADU (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jul 23, 2021 7:55 AM

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SFR ADU (by Aaron [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 11:29 AM

Hi All,

We have ready to issue permits in hand for an ADU in Los Angeles and want to proceed with the project on a single-family rental. We currently have tenants in the house and the backyard where the ADU will be built has both a game room and a storage unit which will both be demolished.

I wanted to provide a notice to our tenant that we will begin construction, but wanted to make sure all my bases are covered and there is no grounds for any sort of issues with the tenant. Are there any sample notices or tips you may have on what to include in the notice along with how to word it, just want to have all my bases covered.


SFR ADU (by Plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 11:54 AM

My first question is does your current lease exclude the use of this anxiety building!? Sounds like a great opportunity! --172.56.xx.xx

SFR ADU (by Aaron [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 12:01 PM

It says it can be used as a game room, and the storage as a storage.

SFR ADU (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 12:39 PM

What you HAVE TO DO IN LOS ANGELES is to make a separate water connection with two turn off valve, one for the current house and one for your ADU unit.

While your tenants are in their rental, if you want to turn off the water to make a connection to your ADU area, the City "may" make you pull an "emergency water turn off permit" AND "water plan), only obtained from the downtown permit counter.

Second if you think getting permission, having plans approved in Los Angeles is going to take weeks, you are in for a shock. We are taking about months or years.

SFR ADU (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 1:44 PM

Sorry wasn't clear. On the lease you have with current resident in the house in the front. --172.56.xx.xx

SFR ADU (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 4:29 PM

Aaron, does your lease with the current tenants exclude the back yard from the tenants' use? I would not be able to start a construction project in the front yard, side yards or back yard of any of my SFR properties, because that would interfere with the T's exclusive use and possession of the property. And the construction noise would interfere with the T's enjoyment as well.

SFR ADU (by P.B. [MI]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 4:39 PM

I agree with Mike45. Also, when and if construction starts I would certainly have a fence installed around the entire project with a sign stating Danger, no trespassing, etc.

Building with tenants occupying the premises is a sure possible way to get sued.

I would not do it. Wait until it is unoccupied. --67.22.x.xx

SFR ADU (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 6:14 PM

so demolition & construction workers traipsing around their (rented house) back yard for weeks & weeks...I for sure would not put up with that. unless you gave me 3 mos no minimum.

SFR ADU (by Jerry [MA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 6:22 PM

You are likely going to need to wait until the end of their current rental term, and then change the conditions going forward so that they don't have access or rights to the the backyard and the backyard structures. Ignoring the noise issue (which the tenant won't ignore), you have currently rented the back yard, including the structures, to the tenant. You can't take that back without a new rental agreement.

If you are MTM, give the tenant 60 days. If you are on a lease, wait until the lease is up.

SFR ADU (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2021 9:53 PM

Another vote for waiting for turnover before you tackle this kind of project. If a tenant rents a house with 5000 sf of backyard, they're going to be upset if you take away a giant chunk of that and build an adu on 1000 sf of it, and turn the yard into a shared yard.

I've got at least three nice lots that I'd like to put an ADU on myself. One is a half-acre lot that the sellers had arbitrarily put up a fence across a mid-point, just so they'd have less yard to mow. It was a surprise when we realized we didn't just own the parcel with the house and garage, but also this other parcel behind it. Since the fence is there, and I've been running the yard maintenance on the vacant part of things, I can throw an ADU anytime I'm ready for the expenses and the hassle.

The second house is at the very end of my renovation queue. It's on a double-lot, with a fenced back yard. The second section is to the side of it, and totally unfenced. It can either be used as grass parking for the first lot, or a secondary dwelling. I haven't worried too much about it because the initial renovation is way at the bottom of my priority list, let alone new build.

The third house is on a quarter-acre lot, and I can fit a very small 1-br off the alley. But the entire lot is unfenced... so I'd have to be more careful about timing construction. If I have tenants who move in with the expectation of having a full quarter-acre parcel, and then suddenly say, "Surprise----!" that would be a significant change to the premises that isn't covered by our lease agreement.

SFR ADU (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 23, 2021 7:55 AM

I would be concerned about the liability risk, especially if there are kids in the front home.

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