Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Anton [PA]) Jul 18, 2021 9:53 PM|
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Jason [VA]) Jul 18, 2021 10:03 PM
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Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 18, 2021 10:30 PM
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 18, 2021 11:17 PM
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Gail K [GA]) Jul 18, 2021 11:40 PM
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 19, 2021 1:20 AM
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Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Nellie [ME]) Jul 19, 2021 9:01 AM
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 19, 2021 9:26 AM
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Allym [NJ]) Jul 19, 2021 10:58 AM
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Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Vee [OH]) Jul 19, 2021 12:53 PM
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Don [PA]) Jul 19, 2021 2:17 PM
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Robin [WI]) Jul 21, 2021 9:21 PM
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Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Anton [PA]) Posted on: Jul 18, 2021 9:53 PM
For kitchen flooring what is the best material?
Porcelain tiles or the luxury vinyl boards.
What is your experience.
I understand luxury vinyl tiles are lot easier and quicker to install.
My contractor swears by luxury vinyl tiles and the labor cost for both remain the same. Is he cutting corner?
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jul 18, 2021 10:03 PM
LVT can be installed by an inexperienced high school kid whereas a lot more skill is required to install porcelain. If your contractor is charging you the same to install both, fire him today.
LVT’s main selling point is its ease of installation (which is why he’s steering you towards it, to make his job easier). It’s water proof, but will not protect sub flooring from moisture damage. It will eventually scratch and show wear. Porcelain tiles are one of the most bullet proof floorings you can put in a property. It can be installed in a manner that will protect the subfloor from moisture damage and will not scratch. If you install porcelain, you’ll only have to do it ONCE. --73.177.xxx.xx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 18, 2021 10:17 PM
I would agree with your contactor. Many reasons to go this route. --172.58.xx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 18, 2021 10:30 PM
Don't make the mistake of only buying enough material to get the job done, purchase extra and store it in a safe place. You never know how much damage a tenant will do.
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 18, 2021 11:17 PM
Any domestic flooring in a rental unit will have low life expectancy where the lower price is going to be a higher price over a period of ten to fifteen years. While installing a commercial grade of porcelain is more labour intensive along with a higher cost of material upfront the commercial grade flooring is going to outlast along with a quick mopping then sometimes grouting then rent ready. The term luxury is not a luxury when seen many install the cheap laminate flooring the every three years replacing where more labour along with downtime for rental unit. Take a metal roof while may cost double then shingle roof but when compare warranties along with life expectancy over fifteen years the house next door has had three shingle roofs. Go to most commercial buildings what type of flooring is used. First a Schluter ditra membrane then porcelain or ceramic tiles on top of the water proof membrane then done. Remember in rental houses and rental unit a lit cigarette is thrown on the floor or pet is sneaked in then what flooring is easily cleaned up with mop and bleach. The rental units after 10 to 15 years the flooring is still there where vinyl does not last even commercial grade vinyl. Going to rip up the laminate flooring in the kitchen soon where that is garbage flooring then install a commercial grade porcelain where have not decided on wood grain type or other types of porcelain. Seen from experience what flooring is not luxury where the objective is to install what lasts in a hostile rental environment. Found commercial grade locks seem expensive upfront but in a rental environment the locks last where even spare parts are available which have grade one or grade two fire rating. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Jul 18, 2021 11:40 PM
One experience with porcelain tiles in the kitchen (they were there when the house was purchased).
Tenants had a leak from the refrigerator icemaker. Didn't report it for a long time. By then the floor was damaged and 1/3 of the tiles were cracked.
When the house was empty all the tiles were pulled up, flooring repaired and LVT put down (MUCH easier and faster than tiling).
Same issue with tiles in a bathroom. The toilet tank started to leak (rusted out screws) and again, the tenants (different ones) did not report this and never bothered to put a bowl under the edge of the toilet to catch the slowly dripping water. Tiles all cracked (and the clawfoot tub started to list eastward into the floor). Again requiring all tiles to be removed, floor repaired and LVT now put down instead.
Only tiling we'll do now are kitchen back splashes and tiling around bathtubs.
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 1:20 AM
Putting ceramic or porcelain tiles on a OSB or plywood base by itself will cause cracking compared to installing a waterproof Schluter Ditra membrane where the weight from the tile is transferred out. For a concrete floor ceramic or porcelain tiles can be installed without membrane. Last year installed large porcelain tiles in the bathroom where first installed a Schluter Ditra membrane. Never had cases of porcelain tiles cracking or even in the bathroom not even one porcelain tile has cracked. Installing if done properly then the tiles will last a very long time. Like everything else if installed properly no matter what will last. It is important in a kitchen or bathroom to have a waterproof membrane as this is high moisture area. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 7:09 AM
I had the same experience GailK had -- not in a rental but in my own house. DW leaked and tile (it was ceramic) started cracking.
However if I remember correctly the tile only went up to the edge of the cabinets...best practice is to tile the whole kitchen floor first and then put the cabinets in on top of the tile. This could make a difference if the leak water flows outward into the center of the room and doesn't have the tile lip at front edge of cabinets to make it's way under. --72.188.xxx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 8:46 AM
Same price installation? He's ripping you off. It's a LOT harder to do tile than LVT. *I* can do LVT, I couldn't begin to do a tile job. --50.82.xxx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 9:01 AM
It is obvious that your GC does not understand the requirements to do a good job with tile. (Porcelain or ceramic will take the same amount of labor.)
Materials costs for tile are also much more expensive, as tiling is more than the tile. You have tile, mortar, grout. Those is the minimum amount of materials you’ll need for a basic job. Installing on plywood instead of cement board sets it up for eventual failure, as plywood expands and contracts with temperature and humidity levels and the mortar and tile does not. So add the cement board and the screws needed for that.
There is no way LVT is going to be the same installed price as porcelain or ceramic tile. Apparently he thought you would be a great opportunity to learn. --70.16.xxx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 9:26 AM
Porcelain tile correctly installed costs a heck of a lot more than Luxury vinyl flooring.
To me, the porcelain tile is much superior, but if you do tile buy the through-body porcelain where the color goes throughout the entire tile. If you floor with that and the tenant manages to chip it, the chips won't show.
Have spare tiles. They aren't easy to break but nothing is tenant proof.
If you do tile, make sure it is installed correctly and not haphazardly just slapped down on whatever subfloor is there. --76.178.xxx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 10:58 AM
No your contractor is familiar with rentals. Tenants break stuff. The drop heavy things that will smash tile and give you a giant headache. I always use vinyl and keep some extra around so I can replace a piece quickly if there is a problem. I hate cleaning grout personally as a landlord and a homeowner. --108.24.xx.xx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 11:17 AM
To give you an idea of the difference in price to install, I have a guy that does both. If I furnish LVT or ceramic/grout and the floor is prepped he charges $.75 /sqft for LVT or $3.25/sqft for ceramic over a concrete floor and he provides the mortar.
If your guy quoted ceramic and you go with LVT there should be a significant price difference for install. --209.16.xx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 12:53 PM
I thought this would be a porcelain vs ceramic story so I will advise that ceramic is not durable against heat such as taking a roast out and setting on the countertop, ceramic will often crack porcelain will hold up better. On the flip side most ceramic has a grid of squares - porcelain is hexagon honeycombs. For years I made my own porcelain countertops, now I just make pot holders from porcelain tiles. --76.188.xxx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Jul 19, 2021 2:17 PM
Porcelain tile is very durable IF the preparation is done right. No bounce in the floor, cement backer board properly put down and thinset has good adhesion. If not, it will haunt you forever and no easy way to correct it. Tiles will crack, pop, grout will crack and come out.
Vinyl click tiles do not require a perfectly still floor as they can flex. --73.194.xxx.xxx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2021 9:21 PM
I enjoy tiling. The first few houses we rehabbed, I did gorgeous tile tub surrounds with shower niches, tiled bathroom floors, etc.
Now, with more experience, I do vinyl plank. Why? Unless you use grout the color of dirt, the grout will always look dirty. Tiles are tough, but they do crack, and replacement is a pain. When styles change, you're left with a BIG job pulling out the old tiles.
That said, if my houses were C-level finishes, I might go with tile just because I don't think the tenants would care about color, cracking, or cleanliness. --104.230.xxx.xx
Porcelein tile vs vinyl t (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2021 9:42 PM
Does the place have a dish washer?
If this is a class A unit, maybe porcelain, but for the majority of Cs and Bs, I like using the vinyl as it is fast and easy to do. It also holds up much netter --72.23.xxx.xx
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