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Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Jul 6, 2021 4:38 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Richard [MI]) Jul 6, 2021 5:21 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Jul 6, 2021 5:39 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Jul 6, 2021 5:44 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by JAC [OH]) Jul 6, 2021 6:06 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 6, 2021 6:14 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Vee [OH]) Jul 6, 2021 6:41 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Jul 6, 2021 7:03 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Still Learning [NH]) Jul 6, 2021 7:05 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Jul 6, 2021 7:06 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Barbara [VA]) Jul 6, 2021 7:07 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by JAC [OH]) Jul 6, 2021 7:11 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Mike45 [NV]) Jul 6, 2021 7:23 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Laura [MD]) Jul 6, 2021 7:33 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Gail K [GA]) Jul 6, 2021 7:44 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Gail K [GA]) Jul 6, 2021 7:51 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Sparky [PA]) Jul 6, 2021 8:10 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 6, 2021 9:55 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Still Learning [NH]) Jul 6, 2021 10:27 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Map [NY]) Jul 7, 2021 7:10 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Jul 7, 2021 9:18 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 7, 2021 9:46 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by MAP [NY]) Jul 7, 2021 9:48 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Jul 7, 2021 10:22 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Busy [WI]) Jul 7, 2021 10:28 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by RR78 [VA]) Jul 7, 2021 2:02 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Jul 7, 2021 2:56 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 7, 2021 3:05 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by RR78 [VA]) Jul 7, 2021 3:50 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Busy [WI]) Jul 7, 2021 4:38 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Jul 7, 2021 5:22 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 7, 2021 6:03 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Busy [WI]) Jul 7, 2021 8:37 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Nellie [ME]) Jul 7, 2021 10:26 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by dino [CA]) Jul 8, 2021 12:38 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Chris [VA]) Jul 8, 2021 1:46 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Garfield [KY]) Jul 8, 2021 8:05 AM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by brakes172 [OK]) Jul 8, 2021 1:38 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Greg [WA]) Jul 8, 2021 1:56 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by APM [CA]) Jul 8, 2021 3:24 PM
       Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Jul 8, 2021 3:30 PM
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Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 4:38 PM
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Anyone have experience with using Portable AC units for their tenants when the central AC is out of service? We had a lightening strike in a tree on one of our properties, which it seems ran through the ground and burned out multiple parts of the central AC (motors, contacts, air handler/fan motor, etc). Even though it's a name brand (Lennox), due to the issues with the supply chain, we can't get certain key parts, and it looks like we may have to do a full replacement. Either way, it will take some time (maybe weeks/months) to get the AC back up one way or the other.

Here in VA, we're running mid-90's now, and I don't think we can just leave the tenant without AC for weeks. My husband and I are having a running battle on what to do... I'm pushing for a couple of window units, but he says that will destroy the vinyl replacement windows. So we're considering portable AC units. Anyone have an opinion on how well those work?

I feel like I've got to do something, even if it will destroy the vinyl windows. If the portable AC's work ok, maybe that would be acceptable. Any thoughts/ experience would be appreciated. --108.4.xxx.x




Portable Air Conditioners (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 5:21 PM
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Get them a couple fans, or just suggest they get their own fans.

Explain the supply chain problem (NOT your fault).

Tell them you are doing the best you can and that's all you can do.

People lived without a/c for thousands of years. Only in about the last 100 years has a/c even been around. They need to be more resilient, not soft marshmallows. They aren't going to die without central air.

It's 90's here too and a fan works fine. --24.180.xx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 5:39 PM
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Yes. Bought it at Lowes works well free standing. --172.58.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 5:44 PM
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Plenty - do you remember what brand and size you bought? --108.4.xxx.x




Portable Air Conditioners (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 6:06 PM
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This is part of being a LL. How would you feel if you rented a home with AC then it broke and you were told you are out of luck for not days but weeks or months in the middle of summer, in 90 degree plus weather? Buy 2-3 window units and put them in. I have vinyl windows and they can handle window units just fine. It's not your fault and it's not their fault. The window units are not permanent and will go a long way to looking like you are doing something to help mitigate the issue. --66.42.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 6:14 PM
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If it were going to be several days, then I would ask them to use fans with the ceiling fans that are in the rental. If they balked at that then I would install a couple of small window fans or the portable.

Richard is exactly right. I remember as a kid that all we ever used was window fans. I still use window fans in my shop, no A/C. It is the air movement that keeps the sweat factor down. People today are spoiled and have no clue how to do without. --73.120.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 6:41 PM
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Get a couple window units, let them run. Have you tried the very common capacitor? This can go again tmrw if lightning is in the area, can't stop lightning... If your outdoor unit was r22 you can get a complete unit and there is a conversion product called m99 which can be used if you replace the inline drier - you just have to find a a/c service person that has that product and skills to replace the one which was damaged. --76.188.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:03 PM
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Hisense. Model AP13HR1G

Cool or heat. We have used it in our own house. Sometimes a house has windows not conducive to window units. Plus while heavy i can still think myself strong enough to load and unload the unit. It rolls easily. Also has a remote control. I guess I've owned it for five years. Month at a rental and few years usage at our own house. --172.58.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:05 PM
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Bought a hi sense from Lowe’s for my daughters tiny college apartment where it worked ok. Our bedroom condenser went the other week in a heat wave so I attempted to use it. I didn’t want to really put sticky tape/foam down so I tried to just rig it temporarily. It was not easy to set up at her apartment and not easy to get it to work in our window either. Probably too small for our bedroom size but I wasn’t impressed and expect it was costing a good amount in energy because it never seemed to stop. I think a window unit would be more effective. --75.67.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:06 PM
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I believe i paid about $600 for it. And it easily cooled a two bedroom single family home. The house also had ceiling fans. --172.58.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:07 PM
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I have a portable ac for emergency use for my rentals. It is a Hisense 12K BTU. I have had it for years and love it. Currently testing it at my house. When AC is out I supply just that. I show them how to hook it up and operate it and let them determine location. I seldom need more than 3 days to get central ac up and running (have a great a.c.guy). Imho that's sufficient. That being said my units are small 1 level 2 bed units. --68.107.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:11 PM
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I remember when they used coal to heat houses. I also remember when AC in cars was an option. It's not that way anymore. Spoiled or not things have progressed beyond fans for cooling. --66.42.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:23 PM
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I have a portable AC unit that I let the tenants use when the central AC is out and we need a few days (or longer) for a part. At least one room will be cool.

90s? We need the heat when it gets that cold! It hasn't been below triple digits in weeks!!

The question is not if the tenants are marshmallows. The question is what are the consequences if you promised AC and are not delivering it. When I provide the portable AC, I am doing the best I can, and the tenants see that I am trying. As important, I think that will be persuasive to a judge if it comes to that. --76.4.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:33 PM
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Used one for my personal residence recently when my AC went out & I was impacted by the supply chain issues. Much better than a fan.

We have laws about how long tenants can go without AC. People have died from heat. I had 2 portable AC units on hand just for tenants. Used them for me, they made the place bearable. I purchased my at the end of the summer season years ago. Glad I had them. --108.56.xxx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:44 PM
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Not sure why your husband thinks a window shaker will damage the vinyl windows.

For what it's worth the "portable" air conditioners are not so portable (except they are on wheels). They still need to be vented out, typically through a window.

I use one in my own house (downstairs); Hisense; supposed to cover 400 square feet but does a good job in an area larger than this. I vent it out through a small door in my catio.

These are not inexpensive units. For what you pay for one you can probably purchase several 5000 BTU window units and place them in the tenants bedrooms for cooling at night.

Gail --73.108.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 7:51 PM
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For what it's worth, my local Lowes has these portable units that start at around $350 and can go up to $700 depending on size. Many have to be special ordered.

The 5000 BTU window units are running at $159. They are more readily available right now.

Places like Walmart might have them cheaper.

I use a window shaker in my own upstairs bedroom but I am living by myself now.

Good luck...

Gail --73.108.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Sparky [PA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 8:10 PM
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Don't know what you are looking to spend, but thought I would mention that there is a portable A/C in the ALDI ad that runs July 7-13, 2021. It is the Easy Home 8000 BTU Portable Air Conditioner for $199.99 --73.40.xxx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 9:55 PM
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You MUST get a portable a/c with two vent hoses. One hose to bring in fresh air to cool the system and 1 hose to vent the air outside. This way you loose non of the inside cold air.

They portable a/c units steel air from the inside to cool the system and vent. So if you a/c is rated at 10,000, the loss of cold air will drop the BTU down to 7,500 BTU, a loss of 15-25%, ouch. --47.155.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2021 10:27 PM
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That makes sense Robert J. The one we have only has 1 hose and I felt like there was a lot of warmth around the unit. It worked better when I used the correctly rated extension cord to move it closer to the bed and away from the window/wall. I think that’s why I felt a window unit would work better, it’s only cold air coming into the room and no ambient heat being generated by the machine itself or the 5 or 6 inch hose bringing hot air into the room, let alone losing any cold air out the hose. --75.67.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Map [NY]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 7:10 AM
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Portable units usually have a condensate tube which has to be vented into a sink or to the outside.

We have put a lot of these and as well as window units up here in conjunction with one of the New York State programs. We size the square footage of the area to be cooled and then proceed thusly generally speaking they run $350 to 450 for 6K btu.

10K btu window units run about $349-375 --72.231.xxx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 9:18 AM
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Regarding the condensate tube: it is drained just by gravity (meaning the tube must be LOWER than the unit), or will it pump out (uphill)? If the unit is sitting on the floor, it could be difficult to get the tube drained to the outside or a sink. --108.4.xxx.x




Portable Air Conditioners (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 9:46 AM
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Our portable AC units are installed using a wooden stand, like a long legged table. The stand is build at the height where the AC is not resting on the vinyl window tracks. There is no way for the AC to damage the vinyl window. The stand is tipped just very slightly so any condensation runs away from the house.

It doesn't matter if cavemen lived without AC. It's still the beginning of July, so it is going to get a lot hotter before you get that repaired. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 9:48 AM
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@Rosie

You want to maintain a slight pitch with both the portable air conditioner with the condensate tube and with window units. --72.231.xxx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 10:22 AM
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We elevated the unit once in the house. Used a short bucket and yes it had to be emptied on a daily basis. The windows in this house would not accommodate a traditional window unit without alot of work. And this was a two week period of time in an unfortunate extremely hot summer and elderly residents --172.58.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 10:28 AM
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I cut a piece of plywood to fit around the window A/C, and wide enough o reach the Jack studs/ trimmers. I screw the A/C o the plywood, screw the plywood through the window casing to the studs. I store the A/C units in fall with the plywood attached.

No damage to the vinyl windows, yet very, very secure. I also use a tube of seasonal caulk to weatherstrip, and I put pink styrofoam insulation on the outside, though for your temporary situation, I wouldn’t.

Anyone who thinks it’s OK to say ‘Just open the windows’ or ‘just run a fan’ , well , ignore that. Tenants rented a home with A/C, and in many neighborhoods, there is No Way I’d be sleeping with windows open. (Those so-called night latches are useless. Zero security.) Yeah, I lived out in the country as a kid where we had no a /c, and come to think of it, not a lot of curtains. But we had lots of shotguns, farm dogs, and no neighbors for miles…. Closed and locked windows allow Mama some piece of mind when she is at work and the twelve year old is home. --70.92.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 2:02 PM
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Rosie.

On the drain. One model we have. The hose comes out high enough to fit in a 5 gallon bucket.

The other model is is lower. So we have a plastic tub for that one.

Need the container large, as tenants can still forget to empty. Or it overflow during the night.

And what Robert said. The 2 hose models cool so much better.

I do like Busy's idea for window models. I never could think of a way to use them with vinyl windows. We do have vinyl siding on most. So I may still need to build a simple pedestal on a stepping stone for the outside bracket.

Used portables for years. May try a window one sometime. They are suppose to cool even better than the 2 hose portables. --73.40.xx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 2:56 PM
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I can't tell everyone how much I appreciate your comments, advice, and help with this situation. It seems like the lightening has blown/burned out most everything, all the way (and including) the air handler fan motor and board. (The air conditioning uses the same air handler as the natural gas furnace). None of our suppliers has the air handler fan motor and (especially) the board. One says they are contacting an internet supplier that MIGHT have the parts, but we haven't heard back yet. So things are NOT looking good for a reasonably quick fix.

I'm going to be pushing my husband for us to get a couple of window units or a portable unit + a window unit. I appreciate the advice about how to handle the install of the window units without messing up the vinyl windows (his big objection), and about the drain on the portable. I don't work full-time in the rental/construction business (I'm an accountant for my day job), so I don't have a lot of expertise in this stuff. You guys are an amazing resource for advice & info!

This covid supply-chain stuff is really changing the rules on how to manage these houses. We've always been able to be very responsive, and keep our properties (and customer service) a cut above. This is nuts!

Please keep the comments/advice coming!

--108.4.xxx.x




Portable Air Conditioners (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 3:05 PM
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I believe some people have missed the point that Richard and I were trying to make.

Obviously some people get very bent out of shape if they loose a luxury, that came to the home in 1929, for just a few days.

Yes, the tenants are paying for a home with A/C and in most cases HVAC. Sometimes things happen beyond our control. Like, having to order parts or wait on labor. The idea is to get the unit repaired ASAP, obviously, and with as low cost as possible, right?

What harm does it do to ask the tenants to use fans, which I would provide and the ceiling fans that I am already proving? They may say yes.

On the other hand, if that does not satisfy them, then I will go out and purchase a couple of small window A/C units as they are paying for a home with A/C or HVAC as the case may be.

The point is that no one is going to die going without A/C for just a few days. We are not suggesting go without it for weeks or months. Just be a little patient and work with me, geeeeeees! If it were my home that I live in I would use window fans and get the unit fixed ASAP. A much more efficient option. People should be more understanding and less whiney.

If all of life reverted back to the pre industrial revolution, there would be a lot of people die and the others whiney as ****. --73.120.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 3:50 PM
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I will add one other thing. Had a handicap tenant once that could not empty the bucket when needed.

So we also used a condensate pump about 50 bucks. Like a Little Giant 554415 VCMA-15ULST

And used this to also pump the water out the window.

--73.40.xx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 4:38 PM
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6x6, sorry, but I DO get what you are saying. It’s not up to business-owners to make value judgements for our customers. Persons with asthma, multiple sclerosis, and other diseases DO indeed die from heat/ humidity. And, yes, those persons would perish sooner if A/C wasn’t invented. The thing is, we, as landlords do not want to put ourselves in a position to be liable because we didn’t act when we had simple options available to remedy things.

Besides health concerns, we now have many people working remotely. Guess what? Computers don’t work so well when they get hot. So, not supplying A/C when we could otter a portable unit in place also can affect the tenant’s employment.

Point being, it’s probably not in a landlord’s best interest to make these choices for the tenants. AND, failing to provide some sort of remedy could lead to a tenant’s botched attempts at ‘self-help.’ Such as, the tenant might decide to get a window unit and screw it into the vinyl window, or get the kind of unit Plenty, RR78, and others mentioned, but then NOT drain it properly, ruining floors. I could see a Judge disallowing damages because the tenant was trying to remedy the situation. That’s not based on experience, just a hunch. (I could be wrong, but I don’t think so…it’s a jungle out there…lol!)

Rosie, I forgot to say, my plywood method DOES leave holes in the window casing. All of my trim is painted Swiss Coffee white, and I supply curtains, so the holes are easy to patch/ hide. The portable A/C might be a better choice if there is a beautiful stained wood casing around the windows. --70.92.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 5:22 PM
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People have died do to summer heat and broken or no AC. Also people sometimes have to leave to stay with family or friends. Seems like you are fixing this like it was your own home. Sometimes we do without. Yes how things are done nowadays is different. Stay on it. Fix it like your own home. --172.58.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 6:03 PM
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Busy, thank you for explaining your points. --73.120.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 8:37 PM
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RR78, none of the window units I have used need the outside support anymore. They’ve gotten lighter --70.92.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2021 10:26 PM
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Probably what your husband is concerned with is that technically they are supposed to be screwed into the window sash to prevent them from falling out if someone forgets and opens the sash, allowing the ac to fall out of the window and drop onto the ground 2 floors below (no, no, I have never done something like that……..) I really like Busy’s idea as the plywood could be wide enough to sit against the frame preventing some dumb person from watching that ac fall out a second story window. (Yes, I really did do that)

The other concern of course would be security if the window sash is not attached to the ac. Using a stick wedged between the sash and top of window frame to keep it down would be a way to counter this problem. (It would keep some stupid person from opening the sash and watching that ac fall out of a second story window….) --71.161.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by dino [CA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 12:38 AM
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The portable ones don't require any real installation. Just set them up and go. However, I remember some issue about dumping the tray of condensation created water every so often. It's possible someone might make one that automatically evaporates that water, not sure.

Of course the portable ones also are not as efficient. Tenant might notice increase in electric bill.

Still, when you get things back to normal, you just wheel them out and you're ready for the next emergency.

Wd don't have any AC so some tenants bought their own portables and they like them. And I never need to deal with fixing them.

--76.171.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 1:46 AM
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I don't know what part of Virginia you're in, but here in the RVA area of central VA, you really can't go even one day in the summer without air conditioning. It could be a different story in the Virginia mountains, or in the upper Midwest where I grew up.

We keep two or three small window units on hand for events like this. It's easier to deal with a couple of small units instead of one larger one when we need to take them to a house that's awaiting repairs.

We'll probably buy portable ones in the future (when we needed them quickly, the portable ones available at the time at the local big box stores all had bad reviews). --71.246.xxx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Garfield [KY]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 8:05 AM
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I provide window units if central A/C is going to be down for a few days or longer. I find the portable units to be more of a hassle and more expensive. You can get used window units for under $100 on Marketplacs or Craigslist regularly. I also buy them in the winter time at their cheapest and sit on them. The people that say “back in my day, we didn’t have A/C” or “tenants are soft” are slumlords. --100.8.x.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by brakes172 [OK]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 1:38 PM
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I had bought a used portable to cool my office. One tenant's unit went out, so knowing the part was on order, i loaned it.

I no sooner got it back, when a power outage fried a part on another tenants unit. I moved it over. I can say they were both very appreciative. Much easier to manage than window units. Whenever i install window units i screw it to the frame and then screw a wedge in the window frame so the window cannot be opened. this way i avoid any possibility of the unit falling or being stolen.

I will probably always have one on hand in the future. --67.61.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Greg [WA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 1:56 PM
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Has anyone tried Portable Evaporative Coolers? --66.172.xxx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by APM [CA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 3:24 PM
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We had one go out and it took a month to replace and we just told them they'd have to hang on. We did the best we could in terms of availability of the equipment and vendor. Air conditioning is not considered a habitability issue, so CA law gives us 30 days to fix it. They were unhappy, but dealt with it. If it was heat, we would have had to offer a rent refund for the period they had no heat, but there is no similar obligation for AC. If someone pushed back we might try to do something, but it is just one of those things that happens. --108.252.xx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 3:30 PM
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Brakes172 - You mentioned you used a portable unit for your office. How do you handle the drain/condensate water? I dropped by Home Depot to see what they had in stock, which were several Toshiba units. Way, way down in the small print they mention that the portable is designed to be drained into a BASEMENT floor drain! Since I need something for the living room/bedroom, I'm not sure how I'd handle this other than put the unit up on a table or stand and get a 5 gal bucket to catch the water.

Thoughts? --108.4.xxx.x




Portable Air Conditioners (by Sue [IN]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 3:58 PM
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I use window AC units in my properties that have vinyl windows. I place a piece of wood in the bottom of the window frame to keep the AC unit from damaging the vinyl and to set the AC unit on and use a piece of wood that spans across the top of the window opening to hold the AC unit into place. I can then screw the window AC unit into the top piece of wood which keeps it from being stolen or accidently falling out if the upper sash gets pushed up. I have extra window AC units to loan out if Central Air unit quits working and I have space heaters for use in winter when furnaces decide to take a vacation. --71.46.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Sue [IN]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 4:12 PM
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I should also mention that Board of Health says landlords have to have HVAC issues fixed in 24-48 hours. And when it's extremely hot or sub zero it's going to take longer than that to get someone to come check it out, let alone get parts and fix any HVAC issues. --71.46.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 5:22 PM
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Rosie,

the pump I listed before is perfect for this. Pump it anywhere you want to. Easy to just go out the window. Drill a hole in the blank cover part to stick the hose thru.

Drain line goes into this small pump. Then a another line goes out. Plug into the wall and all automatic, turns on when needed.

If you have one with a low drain. Then same pump to pump water into 5 gal bucket. --73.40.xx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2021 5:22 PM
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Rosie,

the pump I listed before is perfect for this. Pump it anywhere you want to. Easy to just go out the window. Drill a hole in the blank cover part to stick the hose thru.

Drain line goes into this small pump. Then a another line goes out. Plug into the wall and all automatic, turns on when needed.

If you have one with a low drain. Then same pump to pump water into 5 gal bucket. --73.40.xx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2021 2:18 PM
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Portable units cost more, but they are more effective in my opinion --72.23.xxx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Lucy [IN]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2021 9:59 AM
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We tried the portable ones. They are not so portable as someone said. They are very heavy but do have wheels. They do have the water running out into a bucket that needs dumped. I just went to small window units. Much lighter and easier to install and remove. I gave my portable away, that's how much I wanted to mess with it again.

And on let them suffer, or fix it temporary. I side on fix it temporary. I think it's an issue of landlord responsibility to provide/replace what was expected at the initial renting. --69.160.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2021 11:56 AM
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I can remember slaughtering our own hogs, going barefoot all summer, and no AC. But I'm not going back to any of that voluntarily.

If any of our ACs fail, I provide window or free standing AC units. I'd do it for my house, so I do it for my tenants.

Some of the higher end free standing portables have a built in condensate pump. I have cheaper ones. I try to sit them on the kitchen counter to drain into the sink, or on a piece of furniture so it's high enough to gravity drain out the window. --69.80.xx.xx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2021 11:54 PM
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A 5000 or 6000 btu unit will cool a bedroom and the models today are light. Will not damage the window. You can buy them for about $125 each, and they only pull about 5 amps.

Put them at least in the bedrooms so they can sleep well, and they can hang out there.

Keep them on hand for emergencies in the future. --73.194.xxx.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Arlene [MD]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2021 2:54 PM
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I say get some window units. They won't ruin your windows...they are made to be put in all kinds of windows. We have one single family home that doesn't have central a/c, only window units, and it's just as comfortable as central air. --24.235.xx.x




Portable Air Conditioners (by Christine [OK]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2021 10:23 AM
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I always have portable window units on hand for a weekend part delay etc.

I personally like the ones that stand up in the room and vented outside. It doesn't tear up vinyl window frames and you do not have to remove the screen to install. We have never had to deal with this, but they are supposed to need drained of the condensation in the unit.

--172.56.x.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Christine [OK]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2021 10:23 AM
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I always have portable window units on hand for a weekend part delay etc.

I personally like the ones that stand up in the room and vented outside. It doesn't tear up vinyl window frames and you do not have to remove the screen to install. We have never had to deal with this, but they are supposed to need drained of the condensation in the unit.

--172.56.x.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Christine [OK]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2021 10:23 AM
Message:

I always have portable window units on hand for a weekend part delay etc.

I personally like the ones that stand up in the room and vented outside. It doesn't tear up vinyl window frames and you do not have to remove the screen to install. We have never had to deal with this, but they are supposed to need drained of the condensation in the unit.

--172.56.x.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Christine [OK]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2021 10:23 AM
Message:

I always have portable window units on hand for a weekend part delay etc.

I personally like the ones that stand up in the room and vented outside. It doesn't tear up vinyl window frames and you do not have to remove the screen to install. We have never had to deal with this, but they are supposed to need drained of the condensation in the unit.

--172.56.x.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Christine [OK]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2021 10:23 AM
Message:

I always have portable window units on hand for a weekend part delay etc.

I personally like the ones that stand up in the room and vented outside. It doesn't tear up vinyl window frames and you do not have to remove the screen to install. We have never had to deal with this, but they are supposed to need drained of the condensation in the unit.

--172.56.x.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Christine [OK]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2021 10:23 AM
Message:

I always have portable window units on hand for a weekend part delay etc.

I personally like the ones that stand up in the room and vented outside. It doesn't tear up vinyl window frames and you do not have to remove the screen to install. We have never had to deal with this, but they are supposed to need drained of the condensation in the unit.

--172.56.x.xxx




Portable Air Conditioners (by Rosie [VA]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2021 4:15 PM
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For those of you who might be interested in how this saga ends.....

Tenants decided they'd prefer small window units in 2 of their bedrooms, so that's what we did. (I think I may buy a portable one too to keep for future situations, along with the pump that RR78 suggested).

My (wonderful!) HVAC guy kept trying to find the Lennox air handler motor & board all over the country, and also did a lot of research to see if there was any other work-around. (the Lennox part MIGHT be available by the end of September -- if production started back up). He eventually had a Lennox HVAC supplier tell him about a possible retrofit kit that might allow us to use a more generic/standard board and motor. We kept our fingers crossed and ordered that kit. Low and behold, it worked! He was able to use the generic board/motor. (Oh, also had to replace the thermostat & wiring because the lightening took that out too!).

Anyway, tenants are happy, I'm happy and very relieved! I can't tell ALL you guys in this Brain Trust how much I appreciate every bit of advice, opinion and encouragement. It would be very hard to be in this business without having resources like you all. And Jeffrey, thank you for providing this forum!

PS: Chris (VA) - I'm in central VA/RVA too, so you KNOW how hot it's been! --108.4.xxx.x



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