Smoke Detectors (by Frank [NJ]) Jun 8, 2021 7:16 AM|
Smoke Detectors (by J [FL]) Jun 8, 2021 7:36 AM
Smoke Detectors (by Tony [NJ]) Jun 8, 2021 8:09 AM
Smoke Detectors (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jun 8, 2021 8:18 AM
Smoke Detectors (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jun 8, 2021 8:24 AM
Smoke Detectors (by WMH [NC]) Jun 8, 2021 9:07 AM
Smoke Detectors (by PG [SC]) Jun 8, 2021 9:51 AM
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Smoke Detectors (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jun 8, 2021 10:52 AM
Smoke Detectors (by MikeA [TX]) Jun 8, 2021 11:33 AM
Smoke Detectors (by AL [MO]) Jun 8, 2021 11:49 AM
Smoke Detectors (by Robert J [CA]) Jun 8, 2021 11:51 AM
Smoke Detectors (by Hoosier [IN]) Jun 8, 2021 2:38 PM
Smoke Detectors (by 6x6 [TN]) Jun 8, 2021 2:53 PM
Smoke Detectors (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jun 8, 2021 4:47 PM
Smoke Detectors (by Frank [NJ]) Jun 8, 2021 8:30 PM
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Smoke Detectors (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 7:16 AM
We will be purchasing some soon. Any suggestions on makes/models? Not hard wired, smoke & CO Detecting
Smoke Detectors (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 7:36 AM
I just did this but sorry mine was not CO2 enabled so I don't have suggestions for what you want. But it appears the Code now requires either hardwired or 10 year sealed battery. At least it does in Florida. --72.188.xxx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 8:09 AM
I added up the quantity needed, shopped on Ebay and saved a lot. There are a few good brands. Try and find the ones with the "silence" feature to discourage removing the batteries - tough if not impossible on 10 year models. Not sure about separate CO detectors but NJ requires 10 year smpke detectors as J mentioned. --73.215.xxx.xx
Smoke Detectors (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 8:18 AM
I've gotten the first alert 10 yr smokes on sale at Costco over the past 4 years. 3 failed. I've gotten free replacements. Recently doing a move out inspection, the tenant told me that they get dusty which sets them off and can be cleaned. Problem is that the only way to disable them is to kill the battery and tenants don't know they can be serviced. Add that to your list of chores. --172.58.xx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 8:24 AM
While more difficult upfront where a junction box is near a ceiling light where hard wired smoke detector is more reliable as very drain on the battery along with will operate if the power fails. The green light then can see there power to smoke alarm. The ten year battery type never last ten years. The last anyone wants is for smoke detector or combination carbon monoxide to fail. When the tenants decided to take revenge as put carriage bolts to prevent breaking in commercial front load washing machines they decided to deliberately set the commercial natural gas clothes dryer on fire by putting in combustion material where the building had a central fire alarm system installed where the damage was only the double stacked dryer was destroyed. Fires no mater how caused can cause considerable damage, loss of life or injuries. I never cheaped out on safety. The central fire system was expensive to install along with hard wired smoke alarms with battery back up. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 9:07 AM
We use the 10 year sealed battery models and replace after 5 years. DH writes year of installation on the bottom where it can be easily seen.
We've learned not to install them too near the stove because tenants just take them down when they burn the toast. --50.82.xxx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by PG [SC]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 9:51 AM
You may want to check with your local fire official. Mine was most helpful.
I use the Kidde Code One I9040 micro profile.
I inspect my units every 5 to 6 months and checking the detectors is on the list. --75.107.xxx.xx
Smoke Detectors (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 10:19 AM
I was trying to avoid the 10 year sealed because of the problems Small Potatoes brings up. Then I read that the code requires them now and I don't want to go against code on something as critical as a smoke detector.
I ended up getting 3 of the the Kidde Model Model P3010B because they didn't have a lot of negative reviews about early failure. They were expensive but my Amazon points paid for it. What Tony is suggesting (Ebay) might be a good idea in the future.
Though when these arrived they had a red plastic dust cover on each detector with a warning to to remove the cover until all construction and drywall work was done because the detector is sensitive to dust. I've never seen this before on a detector and it is not very encouraging. --72.188.xxx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 10:52 AM
Check with your local fire department because sometimes they give out the smoke detectors for free.
Smoke Detectors (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 11:33 AM
Cheapest 10 year smoke detectors I've found are at walmart, they are like $13 so price has come down substantially over the last 2-3 years.
I buy them separately. Code enforcement here wants a smoke alarm inside each bedroom and the CO2 near the gas fired water heater and HVAC closet. --64.130.xx.xx
Smoke Detectors (by AL [MO]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 11:49 AM
We went with Kidde Hardwired Combination Carbon Monoxide & Smoke Alarm, Model KN-COSM-IBA, about $35 each with a discount for buying in volume.
We choose them because it was a decent price for a combined smoke and C02 detector. --24.178.xxx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 11:51 AM
Several tips. First look up the models you're interested in or just check for the top performers on Consumer Reports online.
Second major City's will put out an approval list like Los Angeles. The fire marshal.
Third, I would mix in each rental different manufactures and models. In a 3 bedroom apartment I had a smoke detector in each bedroom and 1 on the common hallway. One Smoke Detector in 1 bedroom failed, bad design but not recalled yet. So the Hallway smoke detector let the person in the bedroom with the defective unit there was Trouble in the rental...mainly a fire. --47.155.xx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 2:38 PM
Robert from Ontario, in the US smoke alarms (if hard wired) must be on their own circuit….cannot attach them to a light circuit.
And there are two types of smoke detectors. One detects smoke and the other detects flames. Most people die in smoky fires so that is the type I prefer. Unfortunately those are the more expensive type. Flame ionization is what they call the ones that detect fires and opacity is what they call the ones that detect smoke, but you will almost never see those words on the packaging. Look for phrases like detects flaming fires or something similar.
Sadly, when I was a home inspector I would estimate only about 15% of houses had the correct number of smoke detectors and in the correct places. --99.92.xxx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 2:53 PM
Hoosier, what is the correct number and places for them? --73.120.xx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 4:47 PM
I was told that if hard wired was connected to power it can not be connect to a light switch where it is easy to wire without going through a switch as the power and return without going through the switch. Constant power where can check with switch in on and off position. I find hard wired to have less tempering along with the battery only requires replacement every year. The green light is on then there is power. As a back up there are heat sensors in the rental unit which are connected to the central fire alarm where after a high temperature the central fire goes off. The current draw of a smoke alarm is very low where does not the full 15 amps. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Smoke Detectors (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 8, 2021 8:30 PM
Thank you all for your info.
It will be very helpful. --174.206.xxx.xxx
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