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Sky high materials (by LTD [AZ]) May 4, 2021 3:24 PM
       Sky high materials (by Robert J [CA]) May 4, 2021 3:43 PM
       Sky high materials (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) May 4, 2021 4:14 PM
       Sky high materials (by T [IN]) May 4, 2021 4:25 PM
       Sky high materials (by WMH [NC]) May 4, 2021 4:55 PM
       Sky high materials (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) May 4, 2021 5:37 PM
       Sky high materials (by Still Learning [NH]) May 4, 2021 5:40 PM
       Sky high materials (by Ltd [AZ]) May 4, 2021 9:18 PM
       Sky high materials (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) May 4, 2021 9:35 PM
       Sky high materials (by Still Learning [NH]) May 4, 2021 9:39 PM
       Sky high materials (by Hoosier [IN]) May 4, 2021 11:30 PM

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Sky high materials (by LTD [AZ]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 3:24 PM

Interesting article on the costs of lumber, etc. We are going to set our next mobile (already under construction in CA) in about 4 weeks and then I think call things off for the rest of the summer. They say prices will come down in the fall, but I don't see how. I can't even find pool pellets. I was hoping to make a killing this year, but the margins are disappearing. At least I got rid of my lots.



I think alternative / inexpensive construction methods are going to increase. But codes, lending and what people consider visually pleasing have to change. We have been interested in "ram earth" and berm style homes for years. Why we build "hot boxes" in the desert is beyond me. My spouse and I have been to Taos several times learning about the "earthships." I think this may be the future. At least in drier areas out west. Tires are free, dirt is free, old bottles are free, you just need a bunch of free labor and a source for sand, gravel and concrete.

Sky high materials (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 3:43 PM

I remember America bombing overseas then coming up with the brilliant idea of rebuilding their city's with our building materials. All of a sudden a sheet of plywood went from Six Bucks A Sheet to over Thirty Six Dollars a piece.

The City of Los Angeles sent me a notice I needed to replace 5 roofs on my single family homes. I had purchased them from a Bank and the roof's looked like a mess. With 4 layers over old wood shake, it needed to be stripped off, plywood covered and new asphalt shingled.

With the cost 10 times for wood, 6 times for shingles and Workers Comp costing double for labor, a simple $12,000 job jumped to $60,000.

I went to court on this one. I told the hearing panel I'm not going to drop Fifty Thousand Dollars because the timing isn't right.

So instead I pulled off 2 layers of roofing and then added a rolled sheeting to last a few years. Finally when the cost dropped to less than 1/3 -- I then changed the roof's.

Sky high materials (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 4:14 PM

My nephew built a straw bale house in the mountains of Colorado.

Basically bales of straw 2'? thick with stucco on the interior and exterior.

Heat bill was minuscule.


Sky high materials (by T [IN]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 4:25 PM

Brad, I'm laughing at that straw house. I saw one of the episodes based in Alaska... they basically pole barn built, fill the cavities with straw. Metal on the outside. Episode ended, so I didn't see how he finished the inside. Was curious though. But he didn't have access to insulation, drywall, electrical, etc. Wood was from local trees that was cut.

Sky high materials (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 4:55 PM

Had a friend back in the day - well, an ex-DH's friend - who built an entire huge house and barn with stolen utility poles. He had a ginormous truck and trailer and just would ride along the roads where they were replacing the old ones and just flat out steal the new ones that were not up yet.

He also had a license to hunt alligators back when most people could not. Had an air boat and a FREEZER FULL OF GATOR MEAT. Pretty sure most were poached...

Sky high materials (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 5:37 PM

I was told that 50 per cent of lumber to the Us comes from Canada where Us domestic producers imposed tariffs to protect Us lumber. What is happening is that lumber prices are starting to recover from the 2008 where demand has increases along with supply has gone down. Other building with concrete and steel the options are limited. In Europe for example they do not build wood frame houses like in North America where poured concrete or concrete block. I doubt the Us government is going to lift tariffs where here lumber is expensive as well. On the one hand if the price of houses drops the high cost of building materials is going to limit the drop. With immigration limits being changed the demand for all types of housing is going to increased as most jurisdictions vacancy rates are dropping. Other then using pallets for lumber the options are limited. In the house use pallets for the wood stove as this wood stove to heat up fast then use some of the wood from the trees that were cut down. Also consider visiting a few different Habitat for Humanity restores for building materials where sometimes can pick up some good stuff for a reasonable price. Open box is common where so what if a open box.

Sky high materials (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 5:40 PM

Brad, was it in Gunnison county, CO? I just saw a beautifully done small straw bale house featured in a local Homes magazine. It was the first time I heard about it.

Sky high materials (by Ltd [AZ]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 9:18 PM

BRAD - I think you are talking about the Eagle Ranch outside of Crested Butte. They built several awesome straw bale homes and I think there's a couple more in Crested Butte or Gunnison. Only problem is 2 million bucks is like a starter home there.

Straw bale would work well here too. Plus they grow miles of hay on the indian reservation so it's readily available. The advantage of earth berm though is you don't need to buy much except finish materials and roofing. Maybe if we do ever build a home for ourselves we will give one of those methods a try.

We were talking about the Yucatan on the thread about WMH's son. A number of the hotels and even homes throughout the Caribbean region use palm frond and bamboo construction to build like yurt type structures. Some can be pretty big. I always thought that would be a great way to go, if a storm comes, you just pick the fronds back up and rebuild. But I don't think building codes in the US will allow it. :(

The way it's looking we may all end up living in pallet houses with blue tarp roofs... Sigh.

Sky high materials (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 9:35 PM

His house was a one-off in the mountains outside Denver. If I remember correctly the insurance companies would not touch it due to it's flammable nature.

I have watched several YT videos on earth bag construction. Looks great for folks who have lots of time and cheap labor. Probably good in earthquake zones.

I LOVE the giant CDC type robot machines that lay a strip of concrete to build up walls. Makes so much sense.

I also like the foam "lego" blocks to fill with concrete.

The lumber industry is forcing folks to seek alternatives to wood.


Sky high materials (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 9:39 PM

Look up thepeakcb small bale house April edition

Sky high materials (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 11:30 PM

I'm doing a small handyman job for a lady that needs three steps and railing from her house to ground level. I priced the materials alone at $285! For three steps!

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