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Tenant dies from Covid (by Angelo [IL]) Apr 28, 2021 7:06 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by NE [PA]) Apr 28, 2021 7:16 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by WMH [NC]) Apr 28, 2021 7:23 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Barbara [VA]) Apr 28, 2021 7:50 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Allym [NJ]) Apr 28, 2021 8:42 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by S i d [MO]) Apr 28, 2021 9:06 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by tryan [MA]) Apr 28, 2021 9:13 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by plenty [MO]) Apr 28, 2021 11:46 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 28, 2021 12:20 PM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 28, 2021 4:11 PM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Apr 28, 2021 4:24 PM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Apr 28, 2021 4:26 PM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 28, 2021 11:49 PM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Angelo [IL]) Apr 29, 2021 7:23 AM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Cat [WI]) May 3, 2021 10:04 PM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Angelo [IL]) May 4, 2021 6:28 PM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by Nicole [PA]) May 5, 2021 12:26 PM
       Tenant dies from Covid (by MAT [PA]) May 5, 2021 9:23 PM


Tenant dies from Covid (by Angelo [IL]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 7:06 AM
Message:

State Specific Question About: ILLINOIS (IL)

Hello, our tenant in Chicago, IL for the past 20 years was hospitalized with Covid for the last 30 days and ended up passing away a few days ago while at the hospital. We knew him pretty well so he was not just a tenant. Unfortunately he had no next of kin or family here in the US. He only spoke to one of his nieces periodically that lived overseas. We were able to find her and contact her and also provide her info to the hospital however she did not want to make any medical decisions nor taking any responsibility for his body once he passed. My question is, since he did not die in the house he rented when and he did not have any family here at all, when are we able to go into his house and start the process of removing (and throwing out) the items? He did not have too many items as we already had the house furnished with couches and a dining room table for him when he first moved in 20 years ago.

Thank you

Angelo

--76.29.xx.xx




Tenant dies from Covid (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 7:16 AM
Message:

Get painting. --70.44.xxx.xx




Tenant dies from Covid (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 7:23 AM
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Our condolences about your friend/tenant.

I would go through his things and see if you can find a will anywhere, as well as packing up his stuff to donate to charity. --50.82.xxx.xxx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 7:50 AM
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Just take plenty of pictures as you walk in the unit and detailed log of everything. Protect yourself from anyone coming out of the woodwork looking for the incredibly valuable items he had "left to them".

I am sorry for your loss and the potential nightmare you may encounter over this tragedy.

Anyone wanting to remove belongings should have appropriate legal documentation. --174.251.xxx.xx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 8:42 AM
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So she will expect to know if he had any bank accounts etc and get access to the money. So be careful as you don't want to be accused of anything. If there are checkbooks etc. you may find them and check the mattress for money. He may have hidden money in there. He will be there in spirit so he may be able to guide you if you listen. I can hear dead people on the left side as I am 60 % deaf on that side. It's very quiet almost not a sound. So sorry. They stick around and help us. I have stories. I am getting the word "vase" so look for one or something like that. --108.24.xx.xx




Tenant dies from Covid (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 9:06 AM
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It sounds like he has died "intestate", meaning he has no last will and testament to divide up his estate. Most likely, your state has laws for property abandonment, which will apply in this case. Google search for "Illinois land lord tenant abandonment" and see what you can find out. If all else fails, a quick call to a local, experienced, landlord/tenant attorney should yield a quick answer. Even if they charge you $50 for a 10 minute phone call, how much rent are you losing each day by sitting on this vacancy?

Now is the time to leverage the knowledge of experts. It's relatively cheap compared to poking around on your own. --107.216.xxx.xxx




Tenant dies from Covid (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 9:13 AM
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Yesterday .... easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. --71.241.xxx.xxx




Tenant dies from Covid (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 11:46 AM
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That's what i would do. Carry on. Sorry for the lost, you were certainly ''family'' --172.56.xx.xxx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 12:20 PM
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You could ask the niece if she wanted a small box of photos shipped to her at her cost. If the answer is no, then you have cleared the first step in your path.

There is an official way of tackling this and an informal way of dealing with this. Without family near by and being almost totally estranged, you might be able to take the easier path.

Please understand - that at least in our state, that a lease ends when someone passes. --24.154.xx.x




Tenant dies from Covid (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 4:11 PM
Message:

Angelo,

People die everyday. Most of them lived in a home. many without a will.

A resident passing is a common, everyday event in property management.

A proper lease covers this event.

My lease is clear: We require 4 Emergency Contacts per adult with one of those listed with permission to remove personal items in case of death, incapacitation, or incarceration.

Unfortunately you can be sued for improperly handling their personal items. We contact that person.

Me? Move forward with businesslike compassion. Realize every day that passes is lost rent out of YOUR pocket. Since you don't have permission I would

-take TONS of photos as evidence

-toss perishables (food)

-bag/box any items of value and move them to storage

-begin turnover cleaning and repair.

-Post notice on the door with your number for family members to contact regarding his personal items.

-post an ad in the LEGAL section of the newspaper for any related person to come forward

-hold for the time period required by your laws. Indiana is 90 days.

-THEN you can sell, donate, or toss it

BRAD

--73.102.xxx.xxx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 4:24 PM
Message:

Go ahead and pack up all of his things and move them into a storage unit. Let the relative know that she can pick up his things and that you'll only hold it for 6 months in that storage unit. After that, they'll be sold at auction. Put it in writing to show as evidence of notification. I'd also send a copy of a lease cancellation and ask her to sign and return too.

Doesn't sound like you'll be paid by the estate for any rent due, or the heir is in much of a hurry. I'd get his stuff out to save on future unpaid rent.

I'm with the others about begging for permission. Shouldn't be an issue as long as you save everything for a period of time (6mo to 1 yr) or until the estate is settled. You can always take the position of doing them a favor regarding packing their stuff and saving the estate future rents. --108.69.xxx.xxx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Landlord ofthe Flies [TX]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 4:26 PM
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I meant "begging for forgiveness" when I said "begging for permission." Don't beg for permission. Doubt she wants to make any executive decision regarding the estate. --108.69.xxx.xxx




Tenant dies from Covid (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2021 11:49 PM
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I love all my friends here. ďAsking for forgivenessĒ is a cute phrase but does not work in court. The prosecutor will eat you for lunch.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Angelo [IL]) Posted on: Apr 29, 2021 7:23 AM
Message:

Thank you everyone for the replies. I really appreciate them.

Angelo --76.29.xx.xx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: May 3, 2021 10:04 PM
Message:

Would he happen to have a Facebook page? If so, maybe you could find any possibly family through there or post that you are trying to locate his family, without details.

Otherwise I think I would send a letter to him at your rental address to see if anyone is picking up his mail, that his items will be donated to charity or put in a storage unit in his name in 30 days, if no one steps forward. Take lots of photos and maybe look at his own photos if he has any that may be labeled as family. Would his employer know anything, if he is still working. I don't know how old he is. Would the cousin have a living parent that would be his sibling?

--50.105.xxx.xx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Angelo [IL]) Posted on: May 4, 2021 6:28 PM
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He does not have a Facebook page or any other social media. Pretty much lived off the grid at 72 years old. Mail is not being picked up my anyone so we are holding on to it. His employer does not know anything either as we have been in touch with them. His niece said her dad (his brother) is in pretty bad shape mentally so we could not do anything. He also has 2 older sisters according to the niece that are in their 80's that live in the village in Greece and they said they cant do anything. Aside from the tenant issue it is a sad situation in general as his body from what we were told from the hospital was turned over to the morgue and would eventually be cremated. We do plan on taking lots of photos and move whatever looks like it could per personal items to storage in our basement for a while and then eventually throw them out if no one comes asking. --76.29.xx.xx




Tenant dies from Covid (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: May 5, 2021 12:26 PM
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Contact the local parish priest. There is someone locally that will be able to help. --72.70.xxx.xx




Tenant dies from Covid (by MAT [PA]) Posted on: May 5, 2021 9:23 PM
Message:

Just my two cents, but if it were me, I would not be playing detective here. Thatís not the landlordís job in this situation. --100.34.x.xx





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