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Helicopter Mom (by Shaun [FL]) Apr 8, 2021 9:44 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by Txlord [TX]) Apr 8, 2021 11:03 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by Jim in O C [CA]) Apr 8, 2021 11:13 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2021 6:52 AM
       Helicopter Mom (by Roy [AL]) Apr 9, 2021 7:40 AM
       Helicopter Mom (by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2021 8:11 AM
       Helicopter Mom (by NE [PA]) Apr 9, 2021 8:28 AM
       Helicopter Mom (by S i d [MO]) Apr 9, 2021 9:11 AM
       Helicopter Mom (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Apr 9, 2021 9:42 AM
       Helicopter Mom (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Apr 9, 2021 10:36 AM
       Helicopter Mom (by Wilma [PA]) Apr 9, 2021 1:54 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by Allym [NJ]) Apr 9, 2021 4:23 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by RentsDue [MA]) Apr 9, 2021 5:32 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by Vee [OH]) Apr 9, 2021 6:16 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by Robin [WI]) Apr 9, 2021 7:55 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by Lana [IN]) Apr 9, 2021 8:29 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Apr 10, 2021 11:51 AM
       Helicopter Mom (by plenty [MO]) Apr 10, 2021 6:47 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by Jim [OH]) Apr 11, 2021 4:03 PM
       Helicopter Mom (by WMH [NC]) Apr 11, 2021 4:11 PM

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Helicopter Mom (by Shaun [FL]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 9:44 PM

OMG!!!! They are back. And even more pusher than a year ago. I manage to side step them last year.

I so want to tell them that being pushy, overbearing, and domineering is NOT a protected class. Last year it was everything I could do not to pull that young lady aside and tell her I will not rent to you because I refuse to deal with your mother. But I didn't.

Helicopter Mom has already sent me an email--they're good kids, clean, don't do drugs, her husband will guarantee the rent, yadda, yadda, yadda

Apparently they kept my business card from last year because there is also a voice mail on my machine...Really! The property has only been on Zillow a day.

I realize that most people do not realize that when I list a property on Facebook, Craigslist and Zillow in 24 hours I am will over 25-30 hits. In about 72-100 hours I have had up to 85+ hits on my class "B/C" properties. I think to myself, I need to raise the rent :-). Of course Step 1-Sending out the questionnaire weeds out +/-50%. Someone on here refers to them as "tire kickers".

Would it be against the law to tell Helicopter Mom that I will gladly rent to her daughter and daughter's boyfriend for $3500.00 (3x's the rent); 2400 is for my pain and suffering.

OK I feel better now. --173.31.xxx.xxx

Helicopter Mom (by Txlord [TX]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 11:03 PM

Just ignore them all --72.180.xxx.xxx

Helicopter Mom (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 11:13 PM

Itís amazing how their interest in the property will get lost with all the other reasonable applicants. I once had the same type of applicants who wanted to repaint my newly painted and relandscaped my very well landscaped property. I told them to buy their own home and they can do anything they please but theyíre not going to move into this property. --99.23.xxx.x

Helicopter Mom (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 6:52 AM

Tell them you don't do 3rd party placement and need the kids to contact you directly. Then make a mental note of who it is. Ignore the mom. --70.44.xxx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 7:40 AM

Why do helicopter moms exist in the world? Why can't parents let their 18 year old plus kids grow up and fend for themselves?


Helicopter Mom (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 8:11 AM

Roy, because they're stupid. Obsessed with her own kids. To the point that they don't leave them alone. Helicopter mom's hover around everything that they do. Lawnmower moms clear the path of all trouble for their kids. These kids grow up not having to deal with anything on their own.

The kids show up to view the unit and mom does all the talking. Rips your place apart because it's not perfect for little Johnny or little Suzy.

This is why the prescreen question: "Are you looking for a place for you or someone else?" Is so vitally important. Send this question electronically during your prescreen and when they respond my son or my daughter or my nephew, all you have to do is tell them to tell their beloved little children that they need to apply on their own. And then sometimes you'll get a bunch of excuses back from the Karen moms and you just ignore them. --70.44.xxx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 8:28 AM

Roy, you see this a lot with single moms. That's why they say "smothering isn't mothering."

I don't know if you spent much time around drug attic's in early stages of recovery, but they almost always have a helicopter mom or a lawnmower mom.

It doesn't do anyone any good never have to deal with any hardship.

My son broke his wrist a few weeks ago because his cousin dared him to jump off the swing at max height. Came right down on his wrist. I walked over to him and asked him if he was going to jump off a swing again if he was dared to? Eyes full of tears and a blubbering voice, he cried no. Yesterday he was at work with me, he climbed up a tree with a broken arm and got stuck.

He yelled over to me that he was stuck and couldn't get down out of the tree. I said, well if you got yourself up in that mess, get yourself out of it and I went back to doing what I was doing.

Eight years old, he was out in a few minutes.

When he's old enough to rent from any of you here, his mom is not gonna be there tearing the place apart and making everything OK for him. He'll do it himself or he'll be able to just buy the place.


Helicopter Mom (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 9:11 AM

Ever since I adopted the "All calls go to voicemail" policy, I haven't had to talk with any helicopter moms. Or in one recent case, grandmas. Had one call last week for her granddaughter. She's called 3 different times over the past month or so, and each time it goes to voicemail.

Google voice let's me listen to their message, so that can then push '7' and archive it immediately once I know that there's no chance I will ever return that call.

Easy cheeZ! --107.216.xxx.xxx

Helicopter Mom (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 9:42 AM

So... my son went to college this past year and when we started looking at apartments for him to stay in (mind you they have to be ADA due to him being in a wheelchair), Right in front of the Property Manager, he says..... "I need to tell you, my mom is a property manager, so I am sorry if she tries to over step you!" I about died. The PM and I get along just fine and there are no problems.

It gave me another insight on things. My lease vs her lease.... HA. I blow her away and I don't deal with college kids. She has even called me to throw things by me to see how I would handle them! Great respect both ways, but I was worried at first with how my son "presented me" --173.190.xx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 10:36 AM

I have it in my written criteria that I automatically reject any applicant who I have rejected before.

Also, the person who will be living there must be the person who applies.

Parents applying for their children are always trouble. Tell mama that her child will have to come and apply in person.

One year later, they are looking for another rental, so I am going to jump to the conclusion that they were kicked out for being a PITA at the end of their lease. --76.178.xxx.xxx

Helicopter Mom (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 1:54 PM

I accompanied my eldest, at her request, to first a viewing and then a lease signing. I made it clear to the property manager that although I was myself a landlord, I was only there for moral support and to be another set of ears, that I would not be interfering in any way. The PM relaxed, and eventually asked me if I had any questions that my daughter hadn't thought to ask.

The other daughter rented an off-campus efficiency, and as we were guarantors, we were politely included in all discussions. This came in handy when the daughter was offered an internship for the summer immediately following graduation and wanted to stay on for 2 months. The PM allowed me to arrange for all but the final signing, as our daughter was away for several days, and others were interested in the apartment. (The PM was happy to not have a turnover, so we got a great rate for the extension.) --96.245.xx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 4:23 PM

Parents do that if they are afraid the kid will end up in a flea bag place and have agreed to help with rent. Or if the kid is a total mor on. I have had two or three of those and I now immediately do not accept that application. Flushing paper towels, freaking out because the faucet whistles, leaving a bag of cat poo in the room until it gets full, not paying rent. Letting shower spill over the tub down to the next floor and etc. --108.24.xx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 5:32 PM

I donít deal with parents , I want to deal with the applicant. However, I donít ask ď Is this rental for you or someone else?Ē during prescreening anymore. A local LL was sued for this. Some disabled applicants who have problems with verbal communication use a third party to help them find housing. If they pass the prescreening then we move forward. --68.191.xx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 6:16 PM

Send the helicopter to the airport, deal with tenant in writing - enforce the lease or ask for a mutual moveout. --76.188.xxx.xxx

Helicopter Mom (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 7:55 PM

I'm with Woodsmoke. If they're looking for another place just a year later, I'm guessing their current LL has had enough of them. Hit Delete and move on! --104.230.xxx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 8:29 PM

Thankfully, I have never met a subtle helicopter mom. Why are helicopter dads so rare? --216.23.xxx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Apr 10, 2021 11:51 AM

{{{{{{.......I donít ask ď Is this rental for you or someone else?......}}}}}}

I do ask "who is the rental for? Who all will be living here?" If they are applying for someone else, it comes out then. Usually. That still has to be checked since applicants lie.

It is also on my application, list all persons who will reside in the house. --76.178.xxx.xxx

Helicopter Mom (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 10, 2021 6:47 PM

Ya know, there are scammers out there, naive youngsters entering the real world, and parents who care enough to give a dime so i am ok with parents coming with respect and gratitude. Have a few *to involved* they usually disqualify themselves if I just listen. No place is good enough. --208.54.xx.xxx

Helicopter Mom (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Apr 11, 2021 4:03 PM

I phrase the question; "Are you looking for a place for just yourself or are there others?"

That one question tells me who the tenant will be. It tells me if there is a significant other. It tells me if there are children.

Always phrase your questions to answer at least three questions. --184.57.xxx.xx

Helicopter Mom (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 11, 2021 4:11 PM

I'm okay with parental involvement up to a point; it shows they have a support system and some semblance of family life. It's when the mothers get too involved - or try to be the only involvement - that I step back. --50.82.xxx.xxx

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