Tenant Disputes (by Tracy [OR]) Apr 8, 2021 7:24 PM|
Tenant Disputes (by JB [OR]) Apr 8, 2021 7:40 PM
Tenant Disputes (by OPM [OR]) Apr 8, 2021 7:57 PM
Tenant Disputes (by razorback_tim [AR]) Apr 8, 2021 8:04 PM
Tenant Disputes (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 8, 2021 8:05 PM
Tenant Disputes (by Ken [NY]) Apr 8, 2021 8:05 PM
Tenant Disputes (by DJ [VA]) Apr 8, 2021 8:06 PM
Tenant Disputes (by Nicole [PA]) Apr 8, 2021 8:07 PM
Tenant Disputes (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Apr 8, 2021 8:57 PM
Tenant Disputes (by Fabric Gal [CA]) Apr 9, 2021 3:34 AM
Tenant Disputes (by S i d [MO]) Apr 9, 2021 8:45 AM
Tenant Disputes (by RentsDue [MA]) Apr 9, 2021 3:30 PM
Tenant Disputes (by Vee [OH]) Apr 9, 2021 6:14 PM
Tenant Disputes (by Jason [VA]) Apr 9, 2021 9:26 PM
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Tenant Disputes (by Tracy [OR]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 7:24 PM
I have 2 tenants on one lease. They do not get along with eachother, and tenant 1 has felt the need to get us (landlords) involved. Tenant 1 claims tenant 2 is committing lease violations, specifically not locking doors. We have so far issued 1 written warning (strike 1 in a 3 strikes system). Tenant 1 claims tenant 2 is still not locking doors (personal safety, in addition to personal property, is a concern to tenant 1).
We are under the impression that because both tenants are on the lease together, any written warnings are directed at BOTH tenants. Is this accurate? If tenant 2 says that they WILL NOT lock the doors, can that tenant be singled out? We have to take both tenants at their word, as it is nearly impossible to verify who is or is not locking the doors. But, if tenant 2 has been recorded stating that they will not comply... ?? What's a landlord to do? --66.222.xxx.xxx
Tenant Disputes (by JB [OR]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 7:40 PM
Don't be the Door Lock Police.
If they start giving you more trouble, send them packing...TOGETHER. --73.25.xx.xxx
Tenant Disputes (by OPM [OR]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 7:57 PM
Hi Tracy.... Oregon is a a state that holds both tenants
All tenants and roommates and guarantors, are ‘equally and severally’ responsible for their performance under the entire agreement, addendums, laws and statutes.
The landlord has the option of holding tenants and rents from all or any individual tenant/s and or the guarantor, and reporting breaches to the public records companies or credit bureaus.
Tenant Disputes (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 8:04 PM
I don't know OR law, but I trust that OPM does. I think it would be uncommon for them not to be treated together and both be held for performance of the lease.
Regardless, add into your lease a jointly and severally clause and a "default by one lessee is a default by all" clause. Sometimes we have to spell it out for them.
I've never had a situation like you describe, but I have had neighboring plex tenants get me involved. If I get involved they both get to move. --70.178.x.xx
Tenant Disputes (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 8:05 PM
I had tenants that shared a 3 bedroom apartment together. One tenant would run 5 miles a day and leave the back door unlocked, he didn't want to carry keys with him while jogging. When I touched on the subject with all 3 tenants, they became unglued and started to point fingers at each other over different issues.
I told them to "STOP", that I had one issue pointed out to me in writing, the back door left unlocked. I offered several solutions. 1) put a lockbox on the back door with a key so I could be kept locked at all times. 2) give the jobbing tenant a light weight key on a string worn around the neck. 3) I could install a key lock with key pad so a code could be sued to open the door at a cost of $125.
The three tenants could not agree who was going to do what or pay for the keypad lock. I offered a lockbox for free..
So again the back door was left unlocked another tenants graphite light weight racing bicycle was stolen, valued at $15,000.
This is one case where people are to stubborn to resolve things between themselves and even with a landlord who wants to help -- some people are beyond help.. --47.155.xx.xxx
Tenant Disputes (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 8:05 PM
Are you saying you have 2 people living in 1 unit together that cant get along? why do you get involved? --72.231.xxx.xxx
Tenant Disputes (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 8:06 PM
You just need to make sure that they both understand that you are in no way responsible for the safety and security of their stuff (or them) while they are in possession of the rental property.
Remind them of this in writing, and that your insurance does not cover their belongings or negligence either.
Then stay out of it. --68.229.xxx.xxx
Tenant Disputes (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 8:07 PM
Tenant 2 is getting ready for bed. Gets into her nightgown. Gets a drink of water. Uses the bathroom. Locks the doors. Under the blankets for a long winter's nap.
Tenant 1 then goes and unlocks the door?
If not, tell tenant 2 to be in charge of door locking and double check that tenant 1 has done so when coming or going.
Tenant Disputes (by Sorta Blonde [CA]) Posted on: Apr 8, 2021 8:57 PM
Resist the urge to help or be a mediator. It will only end badly for you. If they are on the same lease, they follow the same rules. Not your problem to get in between warring tenants. I've been there, and it ended with both of them making my life miserable. Never again. Now I just tell them to call the police. --72.197.xx.xx
Tenant Disputes (by Fabric Gal [CA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 3:34 AM
For me, unless the rental agreement specifically states about locking the doors and which tenant(s) is going to do that, I'd tell everyone to work it out among themselves b/c if it isn't in the lease or rental agreement, it's not my problem to be their "mommy" but I'd say it more professionally of course, and in writing. --68.8.xxx.xxx
Tenant Disputes (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 8:45 AM
Do not get involved in their drama. If there are lease violations or non-payments, then you get involved. Until then, this is their problem: not yours.
I am a real estate investor: I am not Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil. If they want me to play the role of psychologist to address their dysfunction, I bill out my time at $500 per hour, cash, paid in advance.
That's a joke. Yes, I'll keep my day job. --107.216.xxx.xxx
Tenant Disputes (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 3:30 PM
If I ever get a complaint about tenant’s whining about locking the doors, I will evict all involved parties ASAP. If I was forced ( at gunpoint) to get involved in that drama I would install keyless entry locks that auto lock when they shut. --68.191.xx.xx
Tenant Disputes (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 6:14 PM
This is a secret code that they need a 100bux rent increase starting when you read this again. --76.188.xxx.xxx
Tenant Disputes (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2021 9:26 PM
Stop answering their calls. Problem solved. --172.56.x.xxx
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