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Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by DJ [VA]) Apr 3, 2021 12:31 PM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 3, 2021 1:22 PM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Robin [WI]) Apr 3, 2021 3:19 PM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by plenty [MO]) Apr 3, 2021 5:09 PM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by MikeA [TX]) Apr 3, 2021 6:28 PM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by DJ [VA]) Apr 3, 2021 8:42 PM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 4, 2021 2:24 AM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Busy [WI]) Apr 4, 2021 10:21 AM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Jim [OH]) Apr 6, 2021 10:25 AM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Jim [OH]) Apr 6, 2021 10:25 AM
       Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Jim [OH]) Apr 6, 2021 10:25 AM

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Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 12:31 PM
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Well, some of you asked to know, so:

The structural engineer looked at my little house this morning.

He said it doesn't need to be torn down-like some he's seen. : {

BUT:

Current ceiling joists are old actual 2" x 4", and 24" OC.

Need to sister them each with either one 2x6 or a 2x4 on each side. 17 of them

Addition (old kitchen & bath) on back of the house needs to be anchored / fastened better to the main structure.

Properly frame the back wall where the giant holes were cut out for the addition without headers, etc.

Replace the 2 wall studs that were totally cut through for plumbing.

Also need to patch the floor boards where the demo guys dropped the front chimney earlier in the week. (He said it was the last 4 feet or so that had "just" fallen over)

I had seen it, told him chisel and hammer - you remove a chimney brick by brick. Lucky it didn't break the joist. Be more careful. There were 2 chimneys to come down, and guess what?

YUP! Yesterday, they dropped the rear chimney, smashed the floor and this time broke 2 joists.

They also removed the one wall that was supposed to stay - but that's the least of it all - might figure it's just as easy to get tub out & re-frame. OK

Other than that, we're good to go! Aye, yay, yay

I sent a "heads up & we'll deal with it next week" message to the contractor along with a couple photos of the joists from below.

Now I'm going to try to not think about it too much, and have a Happy Easter.

Happy Easter to everybody! --68.229.xxx.xxx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 1:22 PM
Message:

So it sounds like you dodged a bullet but still have your work cut out ahead for you.

Happy Bunny Day --24.154.xx.x




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 3:19 PM
Message:

I think I'd bill the chimney guys for repairing a couple of those joists. I had a guy remove a chimney last spring that went up three stories. There wasn't a scratch on my floor when he finished. Glad to hear the good news, though! --104.230.xxx.xx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 5:09 PM
Message:

That Chocolate Rabbit will come to be quite a pleasure while you wait. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 6:28 PM
Message:

Nothing ticks me off like a contractor on a fixed bid cutting corners. In essence, they were trying to shave hours of work off their bid so they could make a bigger profit. I would make them pay for the floor repair in a heartbeat.

Sounds like most everything the Engineer listed is relatively painless. Seventeen 2x6x14 should be less than $500 in materials, not bad to fix the main structural issue. The rest of it shouldn't cost too much either. --64.130.xx.xx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 8:42 PM
Message:

Oh, they will definitely pay to fix what they broke!

But, I do hate dealing with those types of situations.

First time with this contractor - we'll see how he reacts Monday. So far, I'm not impressed with a couple (other) things.

The engineer says he'll send me a name of an "older" framer who only does smaller jobs (like mine) & is really good.

The current contractor is under contract to do the framing of the new interior walls, but not this structural stuff. And I hesitate to give it all to him / his crew - in light of what I've seen so far.

Right now, I'm just hitting the brakes & hope to talk to this other framer next week.

Might even consider just paying them for what they've done so far - minus repairs - and contract with someone else.

--68.229.xxx.xxx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 4, 2021 2:24 AM
Message:

DJ,

Is this your crew?

youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ6h16mYqIU

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 4, 2021 10:21 AM
Message:

Oh, if I could get ahold of an experienced framer who just wanted smaller jobs! That alone could be worth all of the troubles with the broken joists.

Sounds like something good is coming of this. Happy Easter! --104.231.xxx.xxx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2021 10:25 AM
Message:

Deej, Methinks this is your first and last experience with this contractor.

Grandpa always used to say; "An education costs money". --184.57.xxx.xx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2021 10:25 AM
Message:

Deej, Methinks this is your first and last experience with this contractor.

Grandpa always used to say; "An education costs money". --184.57.xxx.xx




Hoo Boy! Follow-up (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2021 10:25 AM
Message:

Deej, Methinks this is your first and last experience with this contractor.

Grandpa always used to say; "An education costs money". --184.57.xxx.xx



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