locking tenants out (by Marcia [WI]) Mar 28, 2021 1:58 PM|
locking tenants out (by Mike45 [NV]) Mar 28, 2021 2:26 PM
locking tenants out (by Richard [MI]) Mar 28, 2021 2:36 PM
locking tenants out (by plenty [MO]) Mar 28, 2021 3:01 PM
locking tenants out (by Ken [NY]) Mar 28, 2021 3:20 PM
locking tenants out (by Nicole [PA]) Mar 28, 2021 4:04 PM
locking tenants out (by Frank [NJ]) Mar 28, 2021 4:15 PM
locking tenants out (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 28, 2021 4:22 PM
locking tenants out (by Marcia [WI]) Mar 28, 2021 4:30 PM
locking tenants out (by Vee [OH]) Mar 28, 2021 5:04 PM
locking tenants out (by Vee [OH]) Mar 28, 2021 5:06 PM
locking tenants out (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 28, 2021 6:43 PM
locking tenants out (by PG [SC]) Mar 28, 2021 6:43 PM
locking tenants out (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 28, 2021 7:47 PM
locking tenants out (by Cat [WI]) Mar 28, 2021 7:51 PM
locking tenants out (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Mar 28, 2021 9:45 PM
locking tenants out (by Gail K [GA]) Mar 28, 2021 11:09 PM
locking tenants out (by W [CA]) Mar 29, 2021 11:51 AM
locking tenants out (by T [IN]) Mar 29, 2021 3:29 PM
locking tenants out (by don [PA]) Apr 3, 2021 9:01 PM
locking tenants out (by Marcia [WI]) Apr 3, 2021 9:06 PM
locking tenants out (by Small potatoes [NY]) Apr 3, 2021 11:06 PM
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locking tenants out (by Marcia [WI]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 1:58 PM
Has anyone ever locked tenants out of the house for nonpayment of rent?
I have some tenants who are moving the end of April. Sent me an email this morning saying they were going out of town until April 4 and would leave their April rent check in my basket in the breezeway (this is where they always leave it). Checked the basket and it isn't there. Emailed them with no response. Texted them with no response. Several times in the past I have had to remind them that I hadn't received the rent yet. They are an educated young couple (24ish). Going to be getting married, just bought a house, etc.
At this point, I'm thinking they are going to use their security deposit for last month's rent.
locking tenants out (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 2:26 PM
A local landlord locked out a tenant who has not paid rent for several months. Tenant called the cops. Cops told the LL that the T has the right to break a window if necessary to let himself in, and that the T would not be obligated to pay for the broken window.
T also called Legal Aid, which told him that if it happens again, they would file a lawsuit against the LL.
I do NOT recommend doing a self-help lock-out.
I recommend filing an eviction (if you can in your state) in early April. The eviction lawsuit will show up on the Ts' credit reports and will follow them around for years. Unless your courts are swift, it won't do you any good, but it will give you some revenge.
locking tenants out (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 2:36 PM
Sorry tenant, but mostly peaceful squatters broke into your house while you were away. Looks like they stole and sold all your stuff and have made themselves at home in your place. I called the cops but the cops told me it was a civil matter and that I had to go through the eviction process.
Don't worry though, I have already started the process and the courts said that in a few months they would get to it. In the meantime, you will have to deal with the squatters yourself as the cops said the squatters had "rights" and that I could not just throw them out. You are welcome to file your own eviction suit against the squatters. It only costs a few hundred dollars and the court will get to it when they get time.
By the way, this does not affect your obligation to pay rent as you agreed so make sure your payment is on time. --24.180.xx.xx
locking tenants out (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 3:01 PM
Well i think Mike45 gave some good information. Probably not your best idea, especially after it was written here. While that sounds like the end to the end, it would be just the beginning to the next nightmare. I do hear water running from inside, i can hear it from here, i would use my key, knock, enter and check all the water connections. Change the furnace filter while I was there and check the smoke detectors. Good news if they do try and use deposit as last's month's rent you know where they live and I maybe find out the closing company and give them a ring. Water and Fire are urgent, I'd take care of this asap. --172.58.xx.xx
locking tenants out (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 3:20 PM
If i really believed they were moving i would not give them an eviction notice,let them buy the house and move,then when you sue them in small claims court i would get an extra month on the claim for not giving proper notice to move,then file the judgment in the county where the house is and send a letter telling them to pay you or you will start a foreclosure against there house,you will get paid --72.231.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 4:04 PM
I agree with the op and with Ken. They probably intend to use security for last month; however, why would they make the effort to contact you to tell you they brought the rent if they didn't? Why not just ignore?
That said, the first is still four days away. Even if they're not back, do you have such a low tolerance that four days late when you know they are away is a true issue? Yes, I know many say "zero tolerance" but four days is four days. Yes, they can and should pay prior to the first but again, it's four days.
Finally, I also would wait if necessary, get the judgment, and dangle it. --72.70.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 4:15 PM
I like the reply from Richard[MI].
Mike45 is always the voice of reason with solid legal advice.
I do not imagine its illegal to tell such a lie...about the squatters anyway. I heard water, the sounding of the smoke alarm is good too....just go in and replace it. Its cheap insurance. If they should show up to get rid of the squatters, then you can brace them in person. --74.105.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 4:22 PM
In my 42 years of being a landlord, I only know of 1 (one) time that a landlord was successful in doing their own lock-out, but it could have gone the other way and sent the landlord to jail. --47.155.xx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Marcia [WI]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 4:30 PM
Yes, I probably do have a low tolerance; likely in this case only. I give a 3-day grace period for late rent and then after that charge a late fee. However, these tenants have been particularly challenging. In the 2 years they have been in the apartment, in the beginning they tried to negotiate the rent, have been late several times with their rent stating, "they just forgot." But yet they have enough money to buy new cell phones and new cars. It has just happened too many times, and if I'm not on it right away, now they are moving, and it would take longer than they are staying to start an eviction action. And also, there is an eviction moratorium in place right now. --50.235.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 5:04 PM
I would file, if they do not fill out the proper CDC paperwork to prove they can not pay due to covid demand the eviction go thru same as pre-covid, as a housing provider you have recently updated your state and local tenant rules, right? --76.188.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 5:06 PM
Actually it would probably be best to send a blank of the CDC required paperwork using either the green card return receipt requested or fedex - whatever your court uses as acceptable transport. --76.188.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 6:43 PM
I have been hearing so many folks lately talk about wanting to evict. What happens if you evict - of yeah you will not get any of the CARES stimulus money.
over all NOW is not the time to evict.
In your case since they just bought a home, if they damage your place and you notice it after they move out - let them know that you place a personal judgement against them that impacts their new home.
That said......wait a few more days and wait and see how this plays out --24.154.xx.x
locking tenants out (by PG [SC]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 6:43 PM
Do NOT lock them out. In SC only the Courts can do that.
Call or text emergency numbers - you should have that on you lease.
Call or text their place of employment.
Be creative maybe something like Richard suggested.
Keep an eye on the place if possible - contact a neighbor.
Wait until the 4th. --184.63.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 7:47 PM
Do NOT change the locks. In MY state and probably in yours it is illegal. Our judge put a LL in jail for doing that.
They are ghosting you - on purpose. They know it's unpaid and have spent the rent and are hiding.
Act now. Do not wait. Deliver (post it on their door today) the required late/default notice and file eviction ASAP.
We get what we allow. I realize WI has tenant friendly laws but a grace period tells renters the payment date does not matter. It's like telling a 2 year old they cannot have a cookie but giving them a cookie while they wait to get their cookie.
I have a court hearing tomorrow with a couple that we "worked with" during the pandemic, owed a few thousand in rent and another few thousand in cleaning/repairs, total $6676. The qualified for a loan because MY eviction filing was posted AFTER they signed for the new house.
Moratorium: judges differ greatly. If your judge will actually read the CDC rules your people are not protected.
We have evicted several during moratorium.
Indiana Supreme Court and maybe yours, declared a moratorium cannot stop someone from FILING.
locking tenants out (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 7:51 PM
Do not EVER do a self eviction of any tenants. It will bite you and give the tenants more power, if it goes to court, not to mention you will probably be fined a LOT of money, look bad in the public (and other tenant's eyes) when it goes public and just makes things much easier for the tenants.
It is illegal to do an lock out until the eviction has proceded through court and you win or they move out on their own and it is vacant.
Just don't do it. --173.87.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 9:45 PM
If they have left then can take to small claims court for rent arrears, damages and cleaning. Once you have received a judgement then can put a lien on house where when they renew mortgage then the rent arrears will have to paid up. A lot depends on the condition of rental along the amount of rent arrears. --99.236.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2021 11:09 PM
Have you actually checked your rental unit to see if these tenants haven't moved out early?
Didn't I hear that neighbors contacted you reporting the sound of water running in your rental? Better go over there to check out this possible emergency repair.
locking tenants out (by W [CA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2021 11:51 AM
Offhand, in today's environment, you are probably better off getting an RV, moving it onto the common area of the property, then letting the musicians you found practice their drumming and musical skills daily plus large helping of Rap music at night... This might work to move deadbeats elsewhere unless you yourself live on the property . . . This would likely be a civil matter between your musical tenants in the RV and the deadbeat tenant . . . Have seen this approach work on feuding neighbors - some elderly neighbors spent their time peering out their windows all day turning in their neighbors for whatever - large doses of obnoxious music on a boombox cured them of being snitches. --174.65.x.xxx
locking tenants out (by T [IN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2021 3:29 PM
Since we can't lock the doors... can we move in a new tenant...
as in about 200+ roaches? :)~ --76.77.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by don [PA]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 9:01 PM
Marcia, are you joking? You wanted to lock them out for not paying April's rent when APril had not even arrived yet? --73.141.xxx.xx
locking tenants out (by Marcia [WI]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 9:06 PM
don't jump the gun Don, (PA) and make assumptions. I was only asking in potential anticipation as I am reading their nonverbal communication. --50.235.xxx.xxx
locking tenants out (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Apr 3, 2021 11:06 PM
Count your blessings that they are moving and remember to be professional about this situation. It's a business, take a breath and regroup. We have all been in your shoes where a tenant gets under our skin. It sucks as much as your let it get personal and eat you up. I have my own late rent tenant who had said that they can pay any time since I can't charge a late fee. They were sometimes late before covid, now it's every month. But I don't let it get to me anymore. When covid is over an my ducks are in a row. This one is history. --172.58.xx.xxx
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