Dirty Turnover :( (by WMH [NC]) Feb 27, 2021 3:54 PM|
Dirty Turnover :( (by DJ [VA]) Feb 27, 2021 4:50 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by myob [GA]) Feb 27, 2021 4:57 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by Ken [NY]) Feb 27, 2021 5:09 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by WMH [NC]) Feb 27, 2021 5:30 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 27, 2021 5:34 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by WMH [NC]) Feb 27, 2021 5:46 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by Ken [NY]) Feb 27, 2021 6:13 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Feb 27, 2021 9:53 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 27, 2021 11:27 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by BRAD 20.000 [IN]) Feb 27, 2021 11:57 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by MAP [NY]) Feb 28, 2021 11:06 AM
Dirty Turnover :( (by MAP [NY]) Feb 28, 2021 11:07 AM
Dirty Turnover :( (by myob [GA]) Feb 28, 2021 12:07 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by WMH [NC]) Feb 28, 2021 12:20 PM
Dirty Turnover :( (by Vee [OH]) Feb 28, 2021 10:06 PM
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Dirty Turnover :( (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 3:54 PM
First one in a long time! But we knew it was coming. She was two months behind in rent, she was a real slob (why is it some extremely pretty girls turn out to be the worst slobs??) and was leaving on a trip (had money for the trip but not rent...)
As we were sweeping and such, DH commented that most landlords deal with this stuff every turnover. He is right. We are really spoiled...
LUCKILY new tenant doesn't need the place until middle of month so we have plenty of time.
Dirty Turnover :( (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 4:50 PM
At least you were braced for it.
Spoiled by your own good management, maybe.
Can't be perfect, I guess - you can only influence others just so much.
How bad is it? --68.229.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 4:57 PM
As long as you put collectable tenants in units-- who cares?
think positive-- it's how you upgrade your unit each turnover on someone else's dime.
Don't get me wrong I dislike it just as much as the next LL but we make a small fortune on dirt and damage. Maybe we have a different mind set? --99.103.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 5:09 PM
MYOB-Yes you have a different mindset.WMH,why are you guys doing the cleaning yourselves? why dont you hire someone? --72.231.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 5:30 PM
This was a weird one. She left trash but it was all bagged up. She left furniture but it was all lightweight and all outside. She left dead flowers, all in pots. He just threw it all in trailer and did a few dump runs.
Water damage to subfloor appeared in just the last week, between the time I showed and rented the place and when she moved out. Not sure how or why! So DH has been pulling up Allure and replacing subfloor. Just a small hallway.
It's not FILTHY she was just a slob. Dust and MAJOR cobwebs and maybe wiping down a few cabinets. Vacuuming out kitchen drawers.
We THOUGHT new tenant was moving in Monday so we had to jump on it. But turns out he's not. But now we've got it cleaned to the point that it's not worth hiring a cleaner LOL! --50.82.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 5:34 PM
Some of my first partners on single family homes weren't happy with the cash flow. I was running a mean ship where every dollar mattered. If not for the 15 year rapid depreciation on the structure, we would be running in the "red", instead of being in the "black" -- profitable with only a 20% down payment.
After tenants would move out and we conducted a walk thru, partners would nit pick at every speck of dust, dirt, etc.
So I'd pull out the vacuum and cleaning supplies from my car and say, "Let's all pitch in an clean up the place, maybe we can list it for rent over the weekend"!
Can you imagine anyone helping you clean up after tenants, other than an owner/landlord? I couldn't get my wife or kids to lift a finger help cleaning out anything, any time or any place. --47.155.xx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 5:46 PM
We don't have a cleaner "on call" any more because our units are returned to us SPOTLESS 99% of the time! I knew this one was going bad but with Covid...you know the drill. And she was so sweet and compliant at all times.
I texted her after she was out and read her the riot act. She agreed it was her fault but that "she didn't have any help." Luckily for us, she DID move on her own before her lease was up and before she owed any MORE rent. --50.82.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 6:13 PM
Robert J,I didnt get in this business to make my wife clean up after tenants.I hire a lady to do it,it is not a big deal --72.231.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 9:53 PM
In the province of Ontario it is illegal to charge a cleaning, damage or pet deposit as it is very rare that a rental unit or rental house is left in decent condition. So in the end those costs have to be passed on in higher rent for all tenants. One reason why avoided hardwood flooring, laminate flooring was after tenant moved out the flooring had to be replaced all over again where found commercial porcelain tile was more expensive upfront and labour intensive to install where a quick mopping then clean where in some cases the grouting have to be done again. A lit cigarette or tenants sneak in a pet where the durability is more important. Installing porcelain tile is DIY job where require a good wet saw to cut tiles. If on a wooden base then a Schluter ditra membrane then tiles are installed over membrane. Porcelain tile can be installed outdoors as not effected by freezing temperatures. You tube has videos on how to install membranes and porcelain tile. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 11:27 PM
Ken I agree. But when a large property has many partners and no one want's to be available to assist, I wanted to teach everyone that ownership isn't that glamorous and to save money so there was a larger budget to re-hab units, it was necessary for the partners to pitch in...they wanted all of the work to fall on my shoulders. --47.155.xx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by BRAD 20.000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 11:57 PM
My lease is clear: $50 per hour for our people to clean.
I have no mercy for people who leave a mess. They KNOW they left a mess and their momma taught them better.
I think our 2 Minute In Home Visit prior to final approval has greatly improved our move outs.
Dirty Turnover :( (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Feb 28, 2021 11:06 AM
Good looking people often rely on their looks and nothing else. They are rewarded for being attractive at an early age, thus getting away with a lot and being spoiled.
I had a very attractive young woman apply to one of my units earlier last year. Her hair and nails were done to a "T" but she ended up having one of her friends pose as a former landlord. The real story is that many male landlords gave her a pass and were VERY sorry. --72.231.xxx.xx
Dirty Turnover :( (by MAP [NY]) Posted on: Feb 28, 2021 11:07 AM
I should add that I'm not swayed by this being a female and would never rent to someone with shady references or who lies no matter how handsome he is. --72.231.xxx.xx
Dirty Turnover :( (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Feb 28, 2021 12:07 PM
i am in this business to make real money. Dimes are not big money.
Ken thank you for the acknowledgement.
my last clean up: took 1200 of the deposit and an agreement to pay 800.00 per month for 2 months to cover cleaning. Just got first 800.00 Friday. Next payment is end of march-- another 800.00. 2800.00 goes a long way. We turned the place in 3 days. Rented it for 300.00 more a month.
We are collecting many thousands of dollars a year for dirt.
So 2 thoughts-- if I charge a low deposit say 400.00 they walk thinking it's just 400.00-- then the rest of the cleaning bill comes for 3 or 4K more OR and this is a biggie-- I charge 1200.00 deposit and they make a half hearted attempt to clean up and then bill them 3 or 4K more?
I like plan B. 1200 dep. --99.103.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 28, 2021 12:20 PM
I am going with double deposits these days, so all are well over 2k, approaching 3k. But not this girl, I only had 1 month plus $500 (old policy) or about $1700.
In the old days pre-Covid, I would have issued her an eviction notice after first missed rent, but courts were closed so I just tried to "work with her" and she kept promising she would make it up. Then second missed payment and she agreed to leave...
I am working up her damages now and will include every last screw. Then will tell her she has 60 days to pay or it's going to collection. --50.82.xxx.xxx
Dirty Turnover :( (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 28, 2021 10:06 PM
I have stopped guessing the definition of -slob-, -filthy- and -messy-, this costs the outgoing tenant a lot and I quickly ask under my breath if they turn in rental cars this way along with motel rooms... --76.188.xxx.xxx
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