Wood floor rationale
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Wood floor rationale (by Rangor [TN]) Feb 25, 2021 3:35 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by plenty [MO]) Feb 25, 2021 3:42 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by Sisco [MO]) Feb 25, 2021 3:58 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by RB [MI]) Feb 25, 2021 4:15 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by razorback_tim [AR]) Feb 25, 2021 4:28 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by Rangor [TN]) Feb 25, 2021 4:55 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by Rangor [TN]) Feb 25, 2021 4:59 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by razorback_tim [AR]) Feb 25, 2021 5:57 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by Richard [MI]) Feb 25, 2021 6:43 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by DJ [VA]) Feb 25, 2021 8:54 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by Rangor [TN]) Feb 25, 2021 9:13 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by Robin [WI]) Feb 26, 2021 8:56 AM
       Wood floor rationale (by DJ [VA]) Feb 26, 2021 12:04 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by Steve [MA]) Feb 26, 2021 1:09 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by Wilma [PA]) Feb 26, 2021 2:00 PM
       Wood floor rationale (by cj [PA]) Feb 27, 2021 6:07 AM

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Wood floor rationale (by Rangor [TN]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 3:35 PM
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After last nights post about putting down wood floors in a rental I thought I would explain my rationale. We all know that tenants can be rough on a house so why not use that momentum instead of always fighting it?

What I buy is the Lumber Liquidators utility grade 5" planks of 3/4" tongue and groove. When you buy more than 500 square feet it is a whopping $1.69 per square foot. It is unfinished, may have splits, knotholes, etc - so many imperfections that they say to count on 20-30% waste. Never.

After I've nailed it down, I will grab whatever tools are laying around that might leave cool indentations in the wood and start roughing it up. I also take the nails out of my nail gun and fire it into the ends of the boards where nails would look natural. (These are just indentations from the air pressure itself - no actual nails).

At this point I will take the solution of vinegar that has had steel wool soaking in it for a few days and brush it on these oak floors. It is important to make sure enough of this solution is brushed on that all the indentations are filled. Within just a few minutes the floors will turn black. (The solution is not black, but the chemical reaction will turn the wood black).

The next step is sanding off as much black as you want so that you get the amount of remaining black you are after. I have actually found the easiest method that gives me the most control is to use a hand held orbital sander with very coarse grit. (It sounds horrible but remember you are not sanding the entire floor - you are just removing some of the black surface).

The idea is that all of the indentations you've created (as well as the natural imperfections within the wood itself) will still look black and appear naturally distressed. Finally, put on some poly and you are essentially done.

The beauty of all this as it relates to tenants is that if they drag a piece of furniture across your 'new' floors it's no big deal. just mix up some more solution, brush it on and it is black and matches the rest of the floor. I have put some pictures of the process and some examples on my picture page if anyone is interested.

I couldn't figure out how to delete old pictures but if you will look at pictures 16,17,18,19 and 20 you will see the process. If you look at 8 and 9 you will see before and afters of a bedroom and 21,22 a kitchen.

I would NEVER lay a nice uniform $5 per square foot hardwood floor in a rental that one scratch will ruin. These floors though are unique enough (and cheap enough) that I really enjoy them. I even have them in my own house and it is amazing how different each of the rooms can be.

--64.252.xx.xx




Wood floor rationale (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 3:42 PM
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you wrote near the end: I really enjoy them.

Awesome, just awesome. And that's what is all about! --172.58.xx.x




Wood floor rationale (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 3:58 PM
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That looks like a great choice in flooring and should lower turnover expenses/time.

Thank you for sharing. --67.43.xxx.xxx




Wood floor rationale (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 4:15 PM
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Antiquing furniture has a similar process.

They wack it with a chain. --199.192.xxx.xxx




Wood floor rationale (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 4:28 PM
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Rangor - could you post the SKU of the flooring? I'm looking at Lumber Liquidators site and I'm not seeing a flooring that matches what you describe. Thanks. --70.178.x.xx




Wood floor rationale (by Rangor [TN]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 4:55 PM
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Tim- According to the guy that I just called the SKU is 10012530. I couldn't find it on their website either when I looked a couple weeks ago, but when I called them they saw my orders from a couple years ago and said they still had that product available. Glad they have better records than I do. --64.252.xx.xx




Wood floor rationale (by Rangor [TN]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 4:59 PM
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The one downside to this product is that the pieces tend to be shorter - average piece about 24" - 30" maybe. The longer pieces (5 -6 feet) actually are harder to deal with so don't give in to the temptation to use them in areas that will be more visable. --64.252.xx.xx




Wood floor rationale (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 5:57 PM
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Thanks Rangor. I noticed in the pics the pieces were shorter. But I think that fits the finishing style you are using pretty well. --70.178.x.xx




Wood floor rationale (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 6:43 PM
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Rangor, That is good stuff. --24.180.xx.xx




Wood floor rationale (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 8:54 PM
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Those floors look really good.

Couple questions: It looks like you put it on a poured concrete floor. What do you use to adhere it?

Ever try it without the blackening/sanding steps? I wonder how that would look. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Wood floor rationale (by Rangor [TN]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 9:13 PM
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DJ - Actually the concrete floor was a different project that I couldn't remove from the picture page. All of the floors I've done have just been on a wooden subfloor. In terms of how it would look without the blackening/sanding steps I guess it would just look like a normal oak floor - just with lots of 'imperfections' --107.77.xxx.xx




Wood floor rationale (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Feb 26, 2021 8:56 AM
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Cimba pointed me toward a similar approach a couple of years ago. I get "cabin-grade" white oak from A & B Hardwood out of Chicago. Last time I got it (about 4 years ago) it was $1.10/ft. Imperfections, lots of variation. Skim-coat with Woodwise wood filler if you want and clear-coat it. Looks like a million bucks. I love the idea of pre-distressing, though! --104.230.xxx.xx




Wood floor rationale (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Feb 26, 2021 12:04 PM
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What is the purpose of the tar paper, or red rosin paper, under the wood?

I'm seriously thinking of doing this in my current rehab. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Wood floor rationale (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Feb 26, 2021 1:09 PM
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traditionally red rosin paper or tar paper were used to cut down on drafts when boarding was used instead of plywood or OSB for the subfloor. It also allowed the flooring to more easily expanded & contract with the changes in humidity. --71.174.xxx.xx




Wood floor rationale (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Feb 26, 2021 2:00 PM
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Hubby just used the vinegar and steel wool solution on some crates that he was making for a barn wedding. The bride wanted them to look weathered. He did discover that fresh vinegar works best, and that leaving the steel wool in for at least 2 days gives a better result. Also, with some woods, a freshly cut surface won't darken enough unless you apply a solution of steeped tea - it puts tannins in the wood, which makes the vinegar solution more effective. --96.245.xx.xx




Wood floor rationale (by cj [PA]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2021 6:07 AM
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Rangor, how much longer do you think it takes to install this as opposed to better quality wood flooring? --174.55.xxx.xx



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