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LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by GKARL [PA]) Feb 24, 2021 2:00 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by NE [PA]) Feb 24, 2021 2:08 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Ken [NY]) Feb 24, 2021 2:32 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by RB [MI]) Feb 24, 2021 3:00 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Johnny B. [MA]) Feb 24, 2021 3:26 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Tonia [RI]) Feb 24, 2021 3:36 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 24, 2021 4:39 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Feb 24, 2021 5:25 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Dee Ann [WI]) Feb 24, 2021 7:54 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Small potatoes [NY]) Feb 24, 2021 8:11 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Ken [NY]) Feb 24, 2021 8:32 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by NE [PA]) Feb 24, 2021 8:40 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by WL [CA]) Feb 24, 2021 10:16 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by WL [CA]) Feb 24, 2021 10:16 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by WL [CA]) Feb 24, 2021 10:16 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 24, 2021 10:27 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Tonia [RI]) Feb 24, 2021 10:40 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by 6x6 [TN]) Feb 25, 2021 8:48 AM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by J [FL]) Feb 25, 2021 9:17 AM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by 6x6 [TN]) Feb 25, 2021 9:25 AM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by NE [PA]) Feb 25, 2021 9:28 AM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by J [FL]) Feb 25, 2021 9:32 AM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Jkj [MA]) Feb 25, 2021 6:11 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Jkj [MA]) Feb 25, 2021 6:14 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by NE [PA]) Feb 25, 2021 6:24 PM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 26, 2021 12:02 AM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by GKARL [PA]) Feb 26, 2021 4:51 AM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by J [FL]) Feb 26, 2021 8:06 AM
       LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Jkj [MA]) Feb 26, 2021 1:16 PM

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LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 2:00 PM
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Ken, this sounds like it might have been up your way:

An Albany landlord fed up with a COVID-19 eviction moratorium is accused of kidnapping his two tenants and leaving them at a cemetery early Sunday morning, a report said.

Shawn Douglas, 48, allegedly tied up the tenants and covered their faces with pillowcases during the gunpoint attack, the Albany Times Union reported, citing police records and law enforcement sources.

Two other suspects may have assisted in the kidnapping from Douglas’s home, the report said.

The two tenants — a 21-year-old woman and a 32-year-old man — were targeted while they were asleep.

The victims told police they were first taken to a motel, before being dumped in a rural cemetery about 35 miles outside Albany.

The woman managed to free herself and seek help from a nearby home, the report said.

Sources told the newspaper that Douglas was frustrated at his inability to remove tenants due to a COVID-19 order that bans evictions until at least May.

Douglas was charged with kidnapping. He was held on $50,000 bond at his Monday arraignment.

timesunion.com/news/article/Albany-landlord-tied-up-evicted-sleeping-15972981.php

--209.122.xx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 2:08 PM
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I would never go this route. It doesn't bother me that this guy did though. New world, new rules. --70.44.xxx.xx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 2:32 PM
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GKARL,next county over,i saw it on faceook but i dont know him and dont seem to know anyone who does know him.This is the kind of thing that will happen when the govt allows people to live for free for 11 months now.I dont know what i would have done when i was starting out and i couldnt evict ecause of a govt mandate and aout to loose everything i worked for --72.231.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 3:00 PM
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Bring proof of Ownership

and (take possession) the next time they both leave,

change locks, and wait for the police

to call it a "Civil Matter".

Post No Trespassing Signs and plan on riding it out

with a few of your friends.

As for their stuff, tell them to send 2 Men and a Truck,

because a Roll off Dumpster is scheduled to be there

in 48 hours. --199.192.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 3:26 PM
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I feel like there is an opportunity like never before to create a “business” to help LLs get rid of deadbeat tenants. The “business” would have to operate in a gray area of the law. Something along the lines of moving a biker gang in for the weekend until the deadbeats pickup and move. --73.186.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Tonia [RI]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 3:36 PM
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Not a good route to take although I agree, this is a new era. Time for fight or flight. I actually love RB idea, but the police would most likely arrest the landlord where I am from. Johnny B, you might have a good idea...sign me up on that one! --70.168.x.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 4:39 PM
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You could always plant MAGA hats on the tenants porch so the police will have to arrest them. --24.154.xx.x




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Fishsticks913 [IA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 5:25 PM
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Has there been a GoFundme set up to help him financially... I mean, there was one set up for the Gorilla Glue lady.

:) --98.21.xx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 7:54 PM
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I feel bad for the LL.

I'm not so bold, but how many of us can say we haven't felt like he did at times.

Being a LL is no walk in the park. It takes a strong person to do what it takes.

I applaud everyone here; we are the champions. --75.11.xx.xx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 8:11 PM
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That incident is only a black eye on the rest of us. I can't believe some here seem nonplussed w leaving them for dead in a rural area in the snow on a cold night. If that's what you're thinking then you should probably use your inside the head voice. I don't think there are details about what kind of tenants they are, but death for no rent, is all anyone who wants too turn the screws on lls has to bring up to make things harder for us. I'm sitting w tenants I was in the process of evicting before covid started. They have paid me something, and it's frustrating but I remain professional and don't do anything they could use against me. --24.194.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 8:32 PM
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Small Potatoes, would you do nothing if it was going to ruin your business,bankrupt you and make you start over? I can carry one now if need be but i do not blame any landlord who takes this into there own hands. --72.231.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 8:40 PM
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I agree with Ken, I can't think of any other business that has had NO RECOURSE except for landlords. Restaurants can reopen in defiance if they want to. A landlord can't force a court to open and hear a case. --70.44.xxx.xx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 10:16 PM
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Anarcho Tyranny. Antifa can attack Federal buildings and police stations with fire bombs in "peaceful protests" and walk but this LL gets the book thrown at him when his pro LLP erty rights are confiscated? Maybe he should have hired protesters to tell and block the driveway like Antifa did...

--189.223.xx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 10:16 PM
Message:

Anarcho Tyranny. Antifa can attack Federal buildings and police stations with fire bombs in "peaceful protests" and walk but this LL gets the book thrown at him when his pro LLP erty rights are confiscated? Maybe he should have hired protesters to tell and block the driveway like Antifa did...

--189.223.xx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by WL [CA]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 10:16 PM
Message:

Anarcho Tyranny. Antifa can attack Federal buildings and police stations with fire bombs in "peaceful protests" and walk but this LL gets the book thrown at him when his pro LLP erty rights are confiscated? Maybe he should have hired protesters to tell and block the driveway like Antifa did...

--189.223.xx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 10:27 PM
Message:

I feel his pain.

But wow. Unbelievable.

BRAD --73.102.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Tonia [RI]) Posted on: Feb 24, 2021 10:40 PM
Message:

Small Potatoes, I do not think anyone here is condoning leaving a tenant, or anyone else, for dead. However, we hear more and more stories of late about LL being killed by their tenants. I do agree however that this story puts a black eye on all of us; we are supposed to be "better" then them. In any event, it is a sad state of affairs. --172.56.xx.xx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 8:48 AM
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He left witnesses. --73.120.xx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by J [FL]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 9:17 AM
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I hope this was worth going to prison for (perhaps for many years), not to mention whatever legal fees and court fines he will incur. He would even have been better off selling this place to an investor at a steep discount than doing this. --72.188.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 9:25 AM
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My guess is that if he was in the frame of mind to go this far then he doesn't really care about the consequences. Therefore, he should have eliminated the witnesses and left no trace or bodies. Just saying. --73.120.xx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 9:28 AM
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Hopefully stories like this motivate tenants to keep their rent paid. Considering how braindead the average person is, I doubt it will have any impact. --174.249.xx.xx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by J [FL]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 9:32 AM
Message:

True 6X6. Lack of impulse control, or else so many things going wrong in his life at once that he just snapped.

I can understand that but you just can't do these kind of things, no matter how frustrating.

There is a low end long term stay motel here in my area that's been in the news. Almost all the "tenants" in the motel stopped paying and refused to leave near the beginning of this COVID situation. The owner ended up abandoning the complex. I'm sure that was an excruciating decision but he is still better off than this other guy is now. --72.188.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 6:11 PM
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I’m not condoning his actions in anyway, but at the point he decided to go through with his kidnapping plan, he may as well have just gone the whole way and killed them! He accomplished absolutely nothing, and is facing a long stretch in prison now. --174.196.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 6:14 PM
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I just read the other posts, J, you are 100% correct. Unfortunately I think it’s fair to say this guy wasn’t thinking rationally. --174.196.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 25, 2021 6:24 PM
Message:

I would say the NY government has blood on it's hands with this story as well. --70.44.xxx.xx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 26, 2021 12:02 AM
Message:

Mail a copy of this story to each late resident?

--73.102.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Feb 26, 2021 4:51 AM
Message:

This guy wasn't a killer. He was just pissed. Hopefully, he'll get some leniency. --209.122.xx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by J [FL]) Posted on: Feb 26, 2021 8:06 AM
Message:

JKJ,

It is a sad situation all the way around. These "tenants" are total sleaze, to be sure, but even they didn't deserve to be kidnapped at gunpoint and then dumped. And the LL was driven to the brink by bad gov't policy and whatever else was going on in his life. --72.188.xxx.xxx




LL Kidnaps Deadbeat Ten (by Jkj [MA]) Posted on: Feb 26, 2021 1:16 PM
Message:

J, agreed, what these tenants deserved was to be legally evicted, unfortunately the LL’s hands were tied, (no pun intended) regarding legal evictions. It’s sad, as NE mentioned the government had a hand in this too! --174.196.xxx.xxx



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