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What the heck! (by Cat [WI]) Feb 22, 2021 7:44 PM
       What the heck! (by Still Learning [NH]) Feb 22, 2021 7:59 PM
       What the heck! (by Dee Ann [WI]) Feb 22, 2021 9:19 PM
       What the heck! (by Jerry [MA]) Feb 22, 2021 10:06 PM
       What the heck! (by Cat [WI]) Feb 22, 2021 10:13 PM
       What the heck! (by Cat [WI]) Feb 22, 2021 10:18 PM
       What the heck! (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 22, 2021 11:29 PM
       What the heck! (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Feb 23, 2021 3:45 AM
       What the heck! (by Steve [MA]) Feb 23, 2021 6:25 AM
       What the heck! (by S i d [MO]) Feb 23, 2021 8:37 AM
       What the heck! (by Tonia [RI]) Feb 23, 2021 9:53 AM
       What the heck! (by Jo [CT]) Feb 23, 2021 10:01 AM
       What the heck! (by Jim in O C [CA]) Feb 23, 2021 10:12 AM

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What the heck! (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 7:44 PM

I was over at the property yesterday, where I evicted a tenant on Feb 9 when she finally moved out. I told her at that time, that I did not want her on my property after that date. It is in the lease that any belongings left after final move-out date, is mine to do with, what I want (legally), and she had 2 months to get it all out since the 30 day notice was given Dec 7th. I suspect that she was living elsewhere for a least a couple weeks prior to move out,and that she was just using my apt for storage. Her beds were torn down, etc

I have been suspicious that she has been back. The locks were changed but due to the damage to the door jamb, etc, the lock could probably be jimmied open.

Still waiting on someone to fix the damage and/or replace the door. It is really hard to find someone here and then if you do, they have to finish other jobs first.

Why am I suspicious? After I was done showing the carpenter what I needed done to remove the back deck enclosure the tenant put up, I went inside.

I heard running water. The good news is that it was not a broken pipe. The bad news is that the kitchen faucet was on, running hot water. When working over there, I did not run the kitchen faucet at all, as it is on an outside wall and I did not want water in the water lines to freeze during that long deep freeze weather. It is possible the line had frozen in the kitchen previously and the tenant had turned on the hot water to know when it thawed before she actually moved out her things and never shut it off. NOT smart. The other reasoning may be that she was back in there and turned on the faucet intentionally to get back at me for eviction.

I could have sworn that she left either 2 or 3 curtain panels behind when she moved, folded up on the kitchen counter but not taken. That did not concern me when I found them after she moved out, but when I was there on Saturday, there was only one curtain panel in the apartment so she would have been in the apartment, past the day she had moved out. There was really nothing there of any value left at all, unless she had something in a cabinet or something and came back to get it. She had left her phone charger there but if she came back for it, I had picked it up already and moved it to another spot there, to use if I needed to charge my phone while over there. It was still there but not easily seen.

All of that was not really proof, if I had been incorrect on what was there or gone, etc

Even when the older tenant downstairs told me that she had seen their outside apartment motion light come on and back off, I thought, since she is hard of hearing with a bad memory, maybe she was mistaken or it was during the time they were still living there. She had no idea how long ago so I let it ride.

There is also a dog and a cat that wonders on the property at times, belonging to a neighbor. They could have set it off.

However, when I asked the upstairs tenant, who works second shift, she told me that she had seen what she thought was a gold vehicle over at the other apartment approximately 9:30 pm to 10:00 pm when she got home from work a few days before. She did say it could be any color as it was dark over there and she did not really get a good look at it. That report concerned me greatly as no one should be over there at all, much less at night.

She has promised to call me if she sees anyone over there again.

I did report the suspicions to the county sheriff and they will have someone be more of a presence around there and keep an eye on it, especially at night, as requested.

I did have a smoker/grill disappear from the garage there a few weeks ago and suspected the tenant that got evicted later, took it, but no proof. A tenant had left it a year ago and I was going to haul it home to use it myself. Then it disappeared. It was not a big deal. It didn't cost me anything and I probably would have just sold it, but still stealing it ticks me off. She did get nailed for theft after her first year with me. I have no idea who she stole from or what she took. It was just in the court records.

We had actually talked about the grille/smoker a few weeks before. Ironic that she also left behind one of those heavy looking cast iron smokers. Filthy inside of course and probably didn't work or too heavy to move. Mine disappeared only a few weeks before she moved out. It was nearly new, I believe.

The door to the upper floor in the garage had also been pryed open but there is nothing but junk on the upper floor, so they would have been disappointed. It had been nailed shut by my late fiance decades ago, so no kids went up there. An adult would have needed to pry it open.

So all this smells to high heaven of the tenant I evicted. I hope the sheriff just happens to drive by and nail whoever it is. I am also going to ask my rental property neighbors to let me know or call the sheriff, if they see someone over there, especially at night.


What the heck! (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 7:59 PM

If you know someone with a game camera and could set it up where it wouldn’t be seen, you would find out if there is someone going in and out. --73.17.xx.xxx

What the heck! (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 9:19 PM

Hey Cat, quite plausible from what others have seen. Hopefully the sheriff will see someone and justice will be served. --198.54.xxx.xxx

What the heck! (by Jerry [MA]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 10:06 PM

If the door can be jimmied, use some screws from the inside to temporarily make the door non-operational. Then use the other door that locks properly. --71.233.xxx.xx

What the heck! (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 10:13 PM

Still learning (NH). Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a game camera and I know absolutely nothing about setting up a security system or game camera or anything like that. I am technologically challenged.

Dee Ann. I hope they can catch someone there. Somewhat unnerving.

I alerted the neighbors to please keep an eye open. They work 3rd shift so may be going to work about the time that someone has been seen over there. I am sure they will help if they can. They have given me info before and I am also sure they don't want a thief or someone else hanging around when they don't live there. --50.105.xxx.xx

What the heck! (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 10:18 PM

Jerry. That is the only door that would lock with a key to get in.

All the extra back doors had locked changed back in 1992 when we bought the place and the keys are probably at the bottom of the pile of keys in the shed, with no way to identify them, when we had to change door knobs instead of just the cylinder. We did not want to have to change more than one lock per apartment, every time we had a new tenant so that one is the only one I can get in, when locked.

Hopefully the guy I am getting an estimate on tomorrow, will be reasonable so I can hire him and be able to do all the things I need fixed including the door. I have used him before a long time ago and it went ok --50.105.xxx.xx

What the heck! (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 11:29 PM

I evicted a family for their terrible conduct. The Sheriff put them out leaving 70% of their stuff inside. I tired to make an appointment for them to return with a truck and friends to remove their stuff. But they weren't civil and threatened to break-in if the door wasn't left unlocked!

So I contracted with a neighbor, a former military man. He put a sign on the front and rear doors of the apartment saying, "Any unauthorized activity will be reported to the police immediately -- trespassers will be prosecuted." AND if the prior tenants wish to reclaim their "stuff", go to unit 3 next door and speak with Jose. For a fee, $35 an hour, Jose will open the door and supervise the removal of junk".


What the heck! (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 23, 2021 3:45 AM

Some tenants are nasty like the rental housing provider is responsible for the rent arrears as there huge profits in rentals where it is completely different in reality. More then likely she holed at a friends or relatives place where soon she will be looking for another rental unit where file with credit bureau so if she does not put that address on the rental application it will come up on the credit reports. Vacancy rates in the province of Ontario are extremely low where those with credit score below the seven hundred are going to shown the door. Careful screening avoids handing the keys through the gates of hell where there are videos on You Tube on the tenants from hell. Had a couple around thirty holed up in mothers basement where he said his girl friend was not going to fill out a rental application where he called six months later he forget he was around before where they are still holed up in mothers basement. Head up them up at the pass like in Western movie. Holed up that sounds the bad people are waiting for things to cool down. Sometimes there are good used or seconds doors the Habitat for Humanity restores where have bought in the past where when a door was destroyed by a tenant. On and off shopped at different stores where could find different things at each store within in the city. Could find enough ceramic or porcelain tiles for a bathroom. Grade 1 and Grade 2 commercial dead bolt locks. If one was short of parts then could two where one complete with spare parts. --99.236.xxx.xxx

What the heck! (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Feb 23, 2021 6:25 AM

Cat, unfortunately you're now finding out just how short sighted your old method of not having all of the exterior doors at each rental keyed alike is. This would allow either your self or the tenant to need only a single key to enter either their main front door or their secondary entrance is. Having all of each unit's entry / exit doors keyed alike couple with a master key system would make your life much less stressful.

I would think that at this point the simplest thing would be to install a padlock & a hasp on the door with the broken jamb. Then once you find someone capable of fixing the broken door / jamb have them install keyed alike locks in both this door & the other entry door. I personally prefer to use single cylinder deadbolts coupled with a non keyed knob for all of my rental units. I find that doing this results in far fewer tenants locking themselves out.

Is there any sort of council on aging group in your area? If so give them a call & ask if they know of any semi retired handymen in your area. Around my area they as well as off duty firemen are a good source of trustworthy semi skilled handymen.

Next time you go there bring a large container of baby powder with you. Spread some on the floor in the area that you think they might be entering. Then you should be able to see the foot prints of anyone entering. Baby powder is easy to clean up & even if they try to cover their footprints you will be able to tell if the powder has been disturbed.

One last thought, do you know any of the other LLs in your area? If so reach out to them to help you find a reliable handyman to help you with these types of things. Even if you don't know them well, I find that most LLs are willing to help.


What the heck! (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 23, 2021 8:37 AM

Yikes! An unsecured door at a rental that just had an eviction!?

I'd be on the phone 12 hours a day until I found someone to fix that. It's a quick job....1-2 hours at most. Offer someone $200+ materials paid to get it DONE and you will find someone, guaranteed. Pay only after work is 100% complete and tested to your satisfaction.

The loss you can and probably will incur from having strangers and/or ex-tenants roaming around inside, as well as the threat to your personal safety, are far more than $200. Get 'er done! --107.216.xxx.xxx

What the heck! (by Tonia [RI]) Posted on: Feb 23, 2021 9:53 AM

I am preparing myself for a similar scenario in early March as I am evicting for serious nuisance in a SFH. The tenant has a felony hanging over his head currently, so I am hoping that will be enough to keep him away. I like the idea of the baby powder for foot prints (as I too worry they will return on property after they are gone). --70.168.x.xxx

What the heck! (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Feb 23, 2021 10:01 AM

Years ago a friend of my mothers mentioned to her that her young son wanted to take a bath. He turned on the hot water, but none came out.

Turns out that that pipe had froze enough to stop the flow, but not break the pipe.

They went out and came back later in the day. The pipe thawed, and they came home to an overflowing tub!

Evidently he never told his mom about this and evidently he didn't turn the water spigot off! So, yes that could have been the problem, but you never know. --68.191.xx.xxx

What the heck! (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Feb 23, 2021 10:12 AM

Put in a Simpsafe alarm system. A cell tower is all that is needed. About $250 and $15 a month cancel anytime. --99.23.xxx.x

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