Gas or Electric (by Kevin [FL]) Feb 22, 2021 8:01 AM|
Gas or Electric (by myob [GA]) Feb 22, 2021 8:25 AM
Gas or Electric (by plenty [MO]) Feb 22, 2021 8:30 AM
Gas or Electric (by S i d [MO]) Feb 22, 2021 10:49 AM
Gas or Electric (by Roy [AL]) Feb 22, 2021 10:58 AM
Gas or Electric (by Ken [NY]) Feb 22, 2021 11:59 AM
Gas or Electric (by LindaJ [NY]) Feb 22, 2021 12:12 PM
Gas or Electric (by Still Learning [NH]) Feb 22, 2021 12:22 PM
Gas or Electric (by Kevin [FL]) Feb 22, 2021 1:15 PM
Gas or Electric (by Vee [OH]) Feb 22, 2021 1:22 PM
Gas or Electric (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Feb 22, 2021 1:22 PM
Gas or Electric (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Feb 22, 2021 1:30 PM
Gas or Electric (by Barb [MO]) Feb 22, 2021 6:17 PM
Gas or Electric (by Kevin [FL]) Feb 22, 2021 7:35 PM
Gas or Electric (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Feb 22, 2021 8:16 PM
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Gas or Electric (by Kevin [FL]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 8:01 AM
Happy Monday everyone,
Rehabbing my newest rental and trying to decide replacing the propane gas water heater with an instant on small unit to save space in a tight laundry room or replace gas unit with sane size electric heater. Not sure how well electric instant on works but I have a gas unit for water & dryer and it works great. Pro or cons of gas for a rental? I would need to run a new gas line and buy a propane tank. I plan on replacing old copper water line piping with pex and need to find the recommended tool for crimp fittings.
Gas or Electric (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 8:25 AM
I would go with electric also.
as far as pex-- we use it on rehabs but for repairs shark-bites.
GET a GREAT crimp tool-- not the EL CHEAPO.
Watch a few you tube video's if you've never done before. --99.103.xxx.xxx
Gas or Electric (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 8:30 AM
Pipes in meter gas ok. Refillable tank will always be an issue. I vote for electric as it's metered and the fewer utilities the tenant has to put in their name and/or manage the better. Easier house to rent = all electric --172.56.xx.xx
Gas or Electric (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 10:49 AM
All other factors held equal....
Gas is more expensive for you to buy & install but cheaper for the tenant to operate and has a faster recovery period.
Electric is less expensive for you to buy & install but more expensive for the tenant to operate and has a slower recovery period.
Other factors that go beyond simple cost analysis: gas requires venting and can become a C02 hazard if a bird builds a nest or something else clogs the flu line or knocks if off center. On the other hand, electric heaters can shock you pretty badly if something shorts out, and in a power outage it is dead. Gas water heaters still work in power outages.
Potayto, potahto. Someone is going to pay and there are Pros and Cons to each. I favor gas because if one thing will make tenants complain or move it's a water heater that doesn't "keep up." During our recent winter storm power outages, people still had plenty of hot water.
Gas or Electric (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 10:58 AM
In my primary residence, I prefer gas over electric. With my Class C tenants, all electric (if possible) is the way to go. My tenants do not like paying 2 power bills especially a gas bill for heat. Going all electric does require a modern 200amp breaker box and a heat pump. --68.63.xxx.xxx
Gas or Electric (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 11:59 AM
I would do electric but nothing fancy just a regular water heater --72.231.xxx.xxx
Gas or Electric (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 12:12 PM
Electric tank water heater. Easy to install. Cheaper to buy. Electric is pretty cheap in FL if I am correct. As long as the tenant pays, buy easy and cheap for you.
I do have a couple of natural gas heaters in one house. 2 units, I have separate gas utilities but have not separated electric yet. So tenant pays for hot water this way.
Gas or Electric (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 12:22 PM
Electric, no permit needed to replace. --73.17.xx.xxx
Gas or Electric (by Kevin [FL]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 1:15 PM
I like gas for myself but I am leaning towards electric for rental use, does anyone have good results with the instant water heater? I am replacing the panel and can add 50amp service to the tank. --47.205.xxx.x
Gas or Electric (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 1:22 PM
Have not had to relight an electric tank since the 1980's, no chimney liner either, they make hot water as advertised but a bit slower recovery if everyone takes a shower at the same time of day the last one will be cool and quick. --76.188.xxx.xxx
Gas or Electric (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 1:22 PM
Prefer the Uponor commercial A pex which bends more easily along no crimps. Special expansion tool where a lot easier to work with. With a demand electric water heater going to require 200 Amps of current as a lot of heat is required at one time. Demand gas water heaters may require a 3/4" as there water is heated right away then being stored in a tank. A heat pump tank water is more efficient as the water is heated from the surrounding air instead of using heating elements. While electric rates are low now no one knows where that is going to be in the future. What happened in Texas where the gamble did not pay off where in the future the low electricity rates are likely to be a thing of the past. --99.236.xxx.xxx
Gas or Electric (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 1:30 PM
I don't like propane for tenants. They don't like the big bill when they fill the tank, and propane is no cheaper than electric.
I use natural gas in my rentals because it is cheaper than electric, but that only works if you are on the gas mains. --76.178.xxx.xxx
Gas or Electric (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 6:17 PM
Electric for a tenant. Only one bill, no running out of propane.
Depending on where in FL you are, and the temp of the water entering, the on-demand tankless may be a good idea. My friend in Fort Lauderdale uses a tankless electric and it works great.
North of FL? Probably not. --67.43.xxx.xxx
Gas or Electric (by Kevin [FL]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 7:35 PM
I am just south of Tampa, we donít have ice cold water coming in to a home so a tankless electric will take up less space. Looking at a Rheem 2.4 or 3.5 tankless. Per Robert, I am going to Sarasota to check on Uponor commercial A pex that he recommended before. MYOB, GET a GREAT crimp tool-- not the EL CHEAPO yes, I want to get the best crimp as I may be changing other older rentals built in the 60s with copper in the floor. I would jump at the chance if we had natural gas but when they brought the pipeline across the gulf into our area they made the power plants convert to gas and did not need anyone else. --47.205.xxx.x
Gas or Electric (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 22, 2021 8:16 PM
While the Uponor pex expansion tool is expensive made by Milwaukee it is much easier system to install pex. Commercial pex is about the same cost as the B type where the diameter of fittings is not restricted like the crimp pex. So a half inch pipe carries the same amount of water like a copper half inch. It is possible to install a Uponor sprinkler system with commercial pex piping or radiant floor heating. Found commercial plumbing supply operations do not sell the cheap big box store products as plumbing and heating contractors do not want or can afford call backs along need a product that will work in commercial and can be used in residential as well. One set for everything. If want more information about commercial Uponor pex then view some videos on You Tube about how to install and how it works. As A type pex bends more easily then fewer fittings where less chance for a leak. From experience found commercial products more expensive upfront but last much longer. Take commercial locks for example which are more difficult to break into along with no plastic parts. --99.236.xxx.xxx
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