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Biden Extends Moratorium (by W [CA]) Feb 16, 2021 5:23 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by NE [PA]) Feb 16, 2021 5:46 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by John... [MI]) Feb 16, 2021 8:03 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Allym [NJ]) Feb 16, 2021 8:39 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Steve V. [WI]) Feb 17, 2021 1:16 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 17, 2021 6:16 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by LisaFL [FL]) Feb 17, 2021 7:21 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by S i d [MO]) Feb 17, 2021 8:40 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by John... [MI]) Feb 17, 2021 9:03 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by John... [MI]) Feb 17, 2021 9:05 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by S i d [MO]) Feb 17, 2021 9:44 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Tony [NJ]) Feb 17, 2021 10:24 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Cat [WI]) Feb 17, 2021 11:30 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by myob [GA]) Feb 17, 2021 11:47 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Lana [IN]) Feb 17, 2021 12:06 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by NE [PA]) Feb 17, 2021 1:20 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by don [PA]) Feb 17, 2021 3:16 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by LisaFL [FL]) Feb 17, 2021 3:35 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by NE [PA]) Feb 17, 2021 3:37 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 17, 2021 3:51 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Ken [NY]) Feb 17, 2021 8:58 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by John... [MI]) Feb 18, 2021 9:11 AM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 18, 2021 8:34 PM
       Biden Extends Moratorium (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 18, 2021 8:59 PM

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Biden Extends Moratorium (by W [CA]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2021 5:23 PM
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Biden administration to extend eviction, foreclosure moratorium ...

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said the extension will build on the executive order President Biden signed on his first day in office on Jan. 20, which extended the eviction moratorium through March 31 which is now extended til the beginning of July . . .

--201.140.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2021 5:46 PM
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Find ways to Ignore ignore ignore. --70.44.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2021 8:03 PM
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Interesting... The proposal specifies $25 billion to be used for direct rental relief to landlords.

I am curious how to request those funds for LLs in that situation. We'll have to see what comes of this.

- John...

--67.209.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 16, 2021 8:39 PM
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To me this means I can advertise my unit without fear of getting someone who has the specter of eviction handing over him or her and who lies to me about reason for moving. --108.24.xx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Steve V. [WI]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 1:16 AM
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What am I missing here? Convert your leases to M2M then send notice of non renewal. Not an eviction. --70.92.xx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 6:16 AM
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Steve V, you are missing something. Ask a tenant to leave and they refuse? Then you'll have to try to evict... --47.155.xx.xxx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 7:21 AM
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Robert, the eviction moratorium does not apply to holdover tenants. They can still be evicted. Steve has the right idea. Although I realize California is a special place. --216.186.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 8:40 AM
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Are we in any way surprised? No, we are not.

Are we going to comply? Oh yes, we will comply with every letter in the CDC moratorium. Anyone who has read it knows that the vast majority of non-paying tenants do not qualify for all five criteria. They must meet all of the following:

1) Have used best efforts to obtain all available government assistance for rent or housing. <-- Have they applied to ALL AVAIALBLE assistance? Probably not.

2) Earn no more than $99,000 in annual income for Calendar Year 2020-2021 (or no more than $198,000 if filing a joint tax return), was not required to report any income in 2019 to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, or received an Economic Impact Payment (stimulus check) pursuant to Section 2201 of the CARES Act. <-- This one won't help most of us since our tenants don't earn more than this.

3) Unable to pay my full rent or make a full housing payment due to substantial loss of household income, loss of compensable hours of work or wages, lay-offs, or extraordinary2

out-of-pocket medical expenses. <-- Many jobs that were temporarily suspended or ended are now back.

4) Using best efforts to make timely partial payments that are as close to the full payment as the individualís circumstances may permit, taking into account other nondiscretionary

expenses. <-- This one is easy to prove false if they are paying you nothing at all, but yet still buying stuff like TVs, new cars, going out to eat at restaurants, etc.

5) If evicted they would likely become homeless, need to move into a homeless shelter, or need to move into a new residence shared by other people who live in close quarters because I have no other available housing options. <-- This is where you contact their Emergency Contacts listed on their application or lease. If they have relatives who have spare bedrooms or large houses with only 1 or 2 people in them, they fail this criteria.

The more you know, the less you fear them. Our evictions courts are open and running full steam ahead! Do not be timid.

--107.216.xxx.xxx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 9:03 AM
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Indeed, here is the CDC form -- we should all have a copy of this handy:

www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/declaration-form.pdf

--67.209.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 9:05 AM
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I like how the form puts a little fear into them for lying:

"This declaration is sworn testimony, meaning that you can be prosecuted, go to jail, or pay a fine if you lie, mislead, or omit important information." --67.209.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 9:44 AM
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John...[MI] gets it. Remember those commercials for Saturday morning TV back in the day? "The more you KNOW!"

LLs don't need to panic over the CDC moratorium, unless you live in ultra-liberal states and the judges are interpreting the moratoriums broadly. If that's the case, I am sad to hear it, but we've seen the handwriting on the wall for years. This is not unexpected nor is it unprecedented.

My advice is sell now before they seize your units or make it unprofitable to own them...."for the common good."

--107.216.xxx.xxx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 10:24 AM
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Not picking sides here but the current and former administrations grossly mishandled the "can't pay my rent" problem.

Instead of broad eviction moratoriums, the section 8 program should have had increased funding available. Renters with genuine income problems could have applied and been fast tracked onto the program.

Many of these income/unemployment problems aren't long term.

Section 8 administrators have the luxury to demand periodic reviews of recipients' income / employment status along with the availability of government employment/with holding data.

Landlords are limited to taking tenant's word for this and in many instances, some unscrupulous tenants simply wouldn't pay as opposed to couldn't pay. Grossly unfair to rental property owners.

I for one do not consider landlords 2nd class citizens - no matter what some politicians think. --73.215.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 11:30 AM
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Most of you know this but I had a tenant on Section 8 who, for some reason that I cannot fathom, did not renew her lease with them after they gave her THREE chances to do so. Her rent more than tripled then. Right there I have that she did not follow the declaration by not trying to get government help to pay rent.

All of my one year leases (required by HUD the first year) switch to month to month after the first year. I just gave her notice of non renewal after the 30 days when she did not move out.

Regardless she never gave me a declaration. I think I would have gotten an actual eviction from the judge but she moved out later on actual court day. Just left enough stuff on the floor for one big bag of trash although the trash and recycle bins are running over and frozen down. Hope to get them loose and out at the curb for pickup before Friday.

I am so glad that my leases go to month to month after the initial period. If not on HUD, I do 6 month leases and now I may do 3 month leases. I don't want to start off with a month to month, get someone in there who finds another place right away and only has to give a 30 day notice. Too much work that way.

Biden is going to have this country so far in debt and probably borrow even more from China, that they will own us.

--173.87.xxx.xxx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 11:47 AM
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you can work it all you want but if your courts are closed-- you can't file. IF as in our case the courts-- electronically are open but the Sheriff refuses to serve the Writ of Possession or make a set out date.

So all the work around it you say to do is for nothing.

Guaranteed you if you self help and do your own eviction-- you will be fined (10K) and most likely jailed.

Jailed for the pure satisfaction and re-election benefit of the judge and jailing the mean bad LL ALWAYS GETS YOU VOTES. --99.103.xxx.xxx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 12:06 PM
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I fully believe before this is over a Rent Moratorium will be brought to the table. I am glad I got my eviction before they restarted the moratorium, but like many others I found my local county sheriff did their best to impede the process. --216.23.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 1:20 PM
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Well MYOB, some people will have choices to make eventually. Death by 1,000 restrictions or risk a fine for self help. If they pull it off, well, theyre ahead of the next guy who complied until he died. --174.249.xx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by don [PA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 3:16 PM
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Steve has the right idea, he is just using the wrong terminology. He is trying to say that evictions are halted only for nonpayment, not for other lease violations or the end of the lease term. That is correct. "Eviction" refers to the use of court authority to remove tenants from a rental property, no matter the cause. --70.90.xx.xxx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 3:35 PM
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Evictions are halted only for ďnon-payment due to CovidĒ.

If they donít pay and it isnít due to Covid you can evict. If they stay after their lease ends they can be evicted. If they refuse to correct lease violations, they can be evicted.

--216.186.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 3:37 PM
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Lisa and Don, that's not true in all places. There are jurisdictions scattered around the US (think mainly liberal cities/states) that have moratoriums no matter the cause right now. They did anyway, may have passed by now. --70.44.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 3:51 PM
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How many of you really have a government backed loan on a rental property? You know a VA/FHA or USDA loan on a rental?

--24.154.xx.x




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2021 8:58 PM
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No evictions here for any reason --72.231.xxx.xxx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2021 9:11 AM
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Ray-N-Pa: I've actually been having trouble trying to find out if the eviction moratorium applies to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac backed mortgages (which applies to a TON more people than just VA/FHA or USDA loans).

I keep seeing statements like this: "Holders of mortgages insured by the Federal Housing Administration or guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are covered by the Biden administrationís extension of the moratorium on foreclosures and evictions. "

But, if you start to read that fine print, it appears to apply that part only to foreclosures.

There is clearly some confusion regarding whether or not the eviction moratorium applies to the Freddies.

Anyone have any conclusive info?

-John

--67.209.xxx.xx




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2021 8:34 PM
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John

You asked a good question about how to get the direct relief. If the county you are in has more than 200,000 people they will have their own program and own forms to distribute funds based on the DHS guidelines.

If you are in a location with less than 200,000 people an agent of the Dept of health and human services will administrate the program using DHS paperwork --24.154.xx.x




Biden Extends Moratorium (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 18, 2021 8:59 PM
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A broker that rents office space from me for the past 20 years is a REO broker for Fannie. I will ask him how Freddie, Fannie and FHA all work together. That is an awesome question. --24.154.xx.x



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